--:-- Alex Ritson: This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Alex Ritson.
--:-- Alex Ritson: In the early hours of Monday, October the 13th, these are our main stories. The remaining Israeli hostages are due to be released from Gaza shortly as part of a US broker deal.
--:-- Alex Ritson: In exchange, Israel is expected to free nearly 2,000 Palestinian prisoners. Fears the growing of a military coup in the Indian Ocean island of Madagascar.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Also in this podcast, how the temperature of your nose can determine your stress levels. We hear about a new scientific expedition to the Antarctic and actor Tom Hollander says live performance is crucial in fighting the growing use of AI on screen.
--:-- Alex Ritson: AI is trying to achieve perfection the whole time and what the real world will have on its side, imperfection and mistakes, which is why live performance will become more and more valuable.
--:-- Alex Ritson: We begin in Hostages Square in Tel Aviv. As we record this podcast, large crowds, many draped in Israeli flags, have gathered for the long-awaited homecoming of the remaining 48 hostages.
--:-- Alex Ritson: About 20 of those taken by Hamas two years ago are thought to still be alive and will be reunited with their families very soon if the terms of the US broker deal are honoured.
--:-- Alex Ritson: These women are among the crowds. We are here because we are very excited and we are here because we are waiting in anticipation for our people to come back.
--:-- Alex Ritson: I'm not happy with the deal, but the most important thing is to get those hostages back. They've been in hell.
--:-- Alex Ritson: The Hamas-run civil defence agency in Gaza says it's finished counting the living hostages and has transferred them to different locations where they'll be handed over to the Red Cross and then the Israeli army.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Once they cross over the border, Israel will free nearly 2,000 Palestinian prisoners, including women and children, and receive the remains of those who died in captivity.
--:-- Alex Ritson: President Trump is on his way to Israel, where he'll address the Knesset before heading to Egypt for a peace conference.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Boarding Air Force One, he said the war is over. Israel does not allow the BBC to report freely from Gaza.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Our international editor, Jeremy Bowen, is monitoring developments on both sides from Jerusalem.
--:-- Alex Ritson: In Jerusalem, Israelis still enjoying the Jewish holidays had plenty to celebrate.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Across the country, there's expectation and impatience to see the hostages free and the end of two years of war.
--:-- Alex Ritson: But the hostage deal is not a peace agreement. Reservists have spent hundreds of days away from their families and jobs, and plenty of them are still in uniform.
--:-- Alex Ritson: A queue formed outside the blood donor van. Among them, Daniel.
--:-- Alex Ritson: I mean, the happiest that the hostages are coming out. I mean, it's against the background of how many are no longer with us. So it makes it very bittersweet.
--:-- Alex Ritson: And why are you giving blood today?
--:-- Alex Ritson: Well, we've got soldiers still in Gaza fighting for us. And blood's needed. So do my bit.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Israel could not have fought the way it has for two years without American power and protection.
--:-- Alex Ritson: The Jerusalem municipality knows who to thank, draping its building with the stars and stripes.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Israel's dependence meant Donald Trump could bulldoze through the hostage and ceasefire deal once he decided that continuing the war was harming America's interests.
--:-- Alex Ritson: The hostage deal is a triumph for Donald Trump, and there's been a lot of talk about whether or not he'll keep up the pressure, especially on Israel, to finish the job with his 20-point plan for the future of Gaza.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Now, irrespective of whether he does or he doesn't, it's going to be very difficult.
--:-- Alex Ritson: And that's because the next items they've got to deal with, security in Gaza, governance, whether or not Hamas gives up its weapons, go to the very heart of how the Israeli government and Hamas see the future.
--:-- Alex Ritson: The agenda is full of deal-breakers.
--:-- Alex Ritson: This was Khan Yunus in Gaza, desperation after two years of death, destruction and now famine.
--:-- Alex Ritson: The UN says the only way to stop people grabbing what they can is to flood the Gaza Strip with aid, and Israel has agreed to let that happen.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Prices have gone down, but the food on sale is still too much for most people.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Um Nader says they just don't have money.
--:-- Alex Ritson: People with nowhere to go are living in the streets. Nobody's helping them. Life's hard.
--:-- Alex Ritson: In this world of rubble, they're finding many more dead Palestinians in areas the Israelis left.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Hamas believes it's part of the future here, insisting on keeping its weapons.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Benjamin Netanyahu responded with a barely veiled threat in a TV address.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Everywhere we fought, we won. But to the same extent, I must tell you, the campaign is not over.
--:-- Alex Ritson: There are still very significant security challenges ahead of us. Some of our enemies are trying to recover in order to attack us again.
--:-- Alex Ritson: And as we say here, we are on it.
--:-- Alex Ritson: Far away in the United States, President Trump has started his journey to Israel and Egypt.
--:-- Alex Ritson: This is the first time everybody is amazed and they're thrilled and it's an honour to be involved and we're going to have an amazing time and it's going to be something that's never happened before.
--:-- Alex Ritson: He's coming here to celebrate a diplomatic victory.
--:-- Alex Ritson: To make the rest of his 20-point plan for Gaza a reality, he will need another.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: Since Friday, when the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas came into effect, hundreds of thousands of Gazans have been returning home.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: But in most areas, it's a scene of utter destruction.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: Many are digging through the rubble for missing relatives and have described seeing Israeli drones still hovering over the city.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: As the IDF begins withdrawing, there's been fighting between rival Palestinian factions.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: 27 people have been killed in fierce clashes between Hamas and an armed clan in Gaza City.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: And the humanitarian situation across the strip remains dire.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: Unruz Tamara al-Refai told us the promised surge of aid can't come soon enough.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: It's been two years of devastation. Gaza is in ruins.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: Humanitarian assistance has been manipulated during this conflict So there has been very little food clean water fuel medicines tents blankets clothes hygiene kits hygiene item for women and girls you name it Everything is lacking in Gaza.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: If the agreement goes on as planned and Gaza is flooded with these supplies, then the next urgent need would be education or learning, at least, for a generation of Gazan children who have been out of school now for the third year, clearing the rubble, making sure that unexploded ordinances are out of the way.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: These are all priorities.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: But for UNRWA, the largest aid organization in Gaza, hope is the operative word.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: And hope is what's going to push Gazans to want to go back, to want to rebuild both their homes, their lives and their futures.
--:-- Jeremy Bowen: Tamara Al-Rafai from UNRWA.
--:-- Clive Myrie: It is a shared pain. That of the Palestinians in Gaza and those here in the occupied West Bank.
--:-- Clive Myrie: Separated by geography and history, they are one people.
--:-- Clive Myrie: And the desperate hope is that the current ceasefire deal might lead to one government.
--:-- Clive Myrie: We are only one country.
--:-- Clive Myrie: Listen to Azam Ayash Salfit. Why we want to separate between Gaza and West Bank. It's our country.
--:-- Clive Myrie: So we hold one government for Gaza and West Bank. That's what we hope.
--:-- Clive Myrie: But the ceasefire plans are sketchy on how much control Palestinians will have in running Gaza, at least in the short term.
--:-- Clive Myrie: This group of West Bank activists are alarmed that a supreme supervisory body, a so-called Board of Peace led by Donald Trump, will for now be the new overlords.
--:-- Clive Myrie: The future of Gaza has to be in the hands of the Palestinians and no other, not international, not Arab, not anyone.
--:-- Clive Myrie: There is no need for anyone else. Just leave us alone.
--:-- Clive Myrie: The West Bank activists have found their voice.
--:-- Clive Myrie: They see this moment in history as a real opportunity to right past wrongs.
--:-- Clive Myrie: This woman's T-shirt reads, We are all Gaza, we are all Palestine.
--:-- Clive Myrie: We have been let down so many times.
--:-- Clive Myrie: Eze Hassan is a 29-year-old architect.
--:-- Clive Myrie: This is the first time that I feel the world has opened up its eyes to what's happening on Gaza and Palestine.
--:-- Clive Myrie: I mean, you're hopeful then?
--:-- Clive Myrie: Yeah, we're all hopeful.
--:-- Sami Awami: What we really want is the democracy and we want freedom. We want the resignation of the president because he is not good anymore.
--:-- Sami Awami: He has been taking an advantage of our country.
--:-- Sami Awami: Our correspondent Sami Awami gave me this update from the capital, Antan Anarivo.
--:-- Sami Awami: There have been a lot of activities going on in different military barracks here.
--:-- Sami Awami: One unit which sided with the protesters, it's called Kaspert, has announced that it is taking control of all the military command in the country.
--:-- Sami Awami: But also they have appointed a new chief of staff for the army.
--:-- Sami Awami: But we haven't had any official confirmation yet with regards to any changes in leadership in the country.
--:-- Sami Awami: Yeah, the protesters are calling for the immediate resignation of President Rajoy Elina.
--:-- Sami Awami: Will he step down or will he try and cling on?
--:-- Sami Awami: Well, so far he has insisted that that is not the right way to go.
--:-- Sami Awami: He says dialogues could solve all the problems we've found going in the country.
--:-- Sami Awami: And he's held a few of them since the protests have started.
--:-- Sami Awami: But the young people who have been leading this protest have dismissed them and saying, the president has been in power since 2009 and that these problems cannot be solved by dialogues and all they want now for him to go so that they can have another president.
--:-- Sami Awami: So we're waiting to see how that will change.
--:-- Sami Awami: We know the president has released a statement saying the president is still in power, but we haven't seen the president since Wednesday when he held his last dialogues with various groups of people here in the country.
--:-- Sami Awami: It's all rather ironic, isn't it?
--:-- Sami Awami: Because he seized power in a military coup.
--:-- Sami Awami: How did we get to this stage?
--:-- Sami Awami: Yes, it's a lot of issues I'm hearing from economists and other experts.
--:-- Sami Awami: They say Rajatine is responsible for a lot of issues like corruption, mismanagement of funds, etc.
--:-- Sami Awami: And they're pointing out, particularly on the cable car project here in the country, the government spent 150 million euros, which was a loan from France, on that project.
--:-- Sami Awami: They're saying the government hoped that it would ease congestions in the city and issues to do with pollution, etc.
--:-- Sami Awami: But this cable car entirely relies on electricity that the country doesn't have.
--:-- Sami Awami: So this is just one example of how the government spends a lot of money on projects that not only don't make any sense, but also can only be accessed by few people in the country.
--:-- Sami Awami: How different would Madagascar be under military rule?
--:-- Sami Awami: It's a question that many people really don't want to imagine because it's military rule.
--:-- Sami Awami: I've spoken to protesters here and they say that's not what they want.
--:-- Sami Awami: They want the country to go to civilian rule.
--:-- Sami Awami: But others are saying, well, we've given this country to civilian rule and then they've gotten where we are here today.
--:-- Sami Awami: But many hope that it would remain in civilian rule instead of going to the military.
--:-- Victoria Gill: Being able to measure your stress levels can go some way to helping to manage them.
--:-- Victoria Gill: Gauging them could be as simple as measuring the temperature of your nose.
--:-- Victoria Gill: That's according to psychologists at the University of Sussex in England who found that the human nose drops in temperature by about 2 degrees when someone is under severe stress.
--:-- Victoria Gill: Our science correspondent Victoria Gill has been taking a stress test.
--:-- Victoria Gill: Starting from 2023, can you subtract 17 until you reach zero as fast and as accurately as possible?
--:-- Victoria Gill: Oh, eh, probably not.
--:-- Victoria Gill: That's me in a scientific stress test, being asked to perform an impromptu mental arithmetic task in front of a group of strangers.
--:-- Victoria Gill: I could feel my heart rate increasing, palms sweating, but a thermal camera also revealed that the temperature of my nose dropped by about two degrees.
--:-- Victoria Gill: That test was carried out by a research team who found that thermal cameras can be used to measure stress levels, picking up this nasal temperature dip.
--:-- Victoria Gill: It's caused by our nervous systems pushing blood flow to our eyes and ears so we can look and listen out for danger.
--:-- Victoria Gill: It's a new non-invasive way to measure stress and monitor our response to it, so the researchers hope it will lead to new ways to help people recover and regain their calm.
--:-- Victoria Gill: Still to come, the South African shamans offering psychedelic drugs to the mentally ill.
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--:-- Tom Hollander: The Iris Affair, his character is enthralled to a mysterious supercomputer.
--:-- Tom Hollander: Iris, you've got a brain that's off the scale.
--:-- Tom Hollander: I need you to come and work with me.
--:-- Tom Hollander: What's the puzzle that needs solving?
--:-- Tom Hollander: One that matters.
--:-- Tom Hollander: In the film, Hollander plays Cameron Beck, chameleon air who must track down a code-cracking heroine, Iris Nixon.
--:-- Tom Hollander: But he's also won acclaim for his stage performances, including Patriots, where he played Boris Borosovsky and Tom Stoppard's Travesties.
--:-- Tom Hollander: The actor told the BBC's Paddy O'Connell that these roles in particular have made him less fearful of AI.
--:-- Tom Hollander: It's replacing everything. It's replacing accountants, it's replacing travel agents, you name it.
--:-- Tom Hollander: But I don't know whether you can really replace it because you can't replace the mistakes.
--:-- Tom Hollander: I did wonder yesterday if actors will stop making themselves up or something to just sort of fight AI, because obviously what AI does is sort of trying to achieve perfection the whole time and what the real world will have on its side, imperfection and mistakes, which is why live performance will become more and more valuable and will become a rare and precious thing, because it's irreplaceable.
--:-- Tom Hollander: I think it's irreplaceable.
--:-- Tom Hollander: I know there's the ABBA show, but I thought that there'll be some sort of reaction against AI.
--:-- Tom Hollander: I don't know whether people will want to watch it.
--:-- Tom Hollander: It's yet to be proved that it's interesting to watch an AI-based plot.
--:-- Tom Hollander: And you can obviously do images which are convincing, but they're not really satisfying.
--:-- Tom Hollander: And you would know, your brain would know that you were watching something.
--:-- Tom Hollander: If you knew that it was AI, and maybe there'd be a law about having to tell you that it was AI, just in the way that you have ingredients when you buy something in a supermarket.
--:-- Tom Hollander: If the consumer knows, then the consumer will only engage in it as a piece of AI, and they will engage in something that's not AI in a completely different way.
--:-- Tom Hollander: And I don't think it's all over.
--:-- Athena Dina: Britain's flagship polar research vessel is preparing to set sail for a high-profile expedition to the Antarctic.
--:-- Athena Dina: The scientists are on board the RSS Sir David Attenborough, named after the celebrated British naturalist and broadcaster, and they'll spend the next few months carrying out important research into what is still a relatively undiscovered part of the Earth.
--:-- Athena Dina: British Antarctic Survey spokeswoman Athena Dina is taking part in the expedition and she's been telling the BBC more about the ship and its mission.
--:-- Athena Dina: The ship is the UK's polar research vessel and it's a real game changer for polar science, understanding how the polar regions are changing and we'll be spending about six months in that region doing experiments, taking samples and really trying to understand how the region is changing.
--:-- Athena Dina: Antarctica is still largely very unknown.
--:-- Athena Dina: It contains 90% of the world's ice, 70% of the world's freshwater.
--:-- Athena Dina: And so any changes there have a massive impact on all of us in terms of sea level rise and changes to ocean patterns.
--:-- Athena Dina: Now, you might say, well, how does ocean patterns affect us?
--:-- Athena Dina: Well, actually, it affects our weather systems.
--:-- Athena Dina: It affects extreme weather events.
--:-- Athena Dina: So it affects all of us in lots of different ways.
--:-- Athena Dina: Now, that ice in Antarctica, the warmer ocean is getting underneath it and it is melting it from beneath.
--:-- Athena Dina: And so the changes are happening and we're trying to understand how much and how quickly it might change in the future so that governments can really adapt to these changes for all of our benefit.
--:-- Athena Dina: We take ocean samples.
--:-- Athena Dina: We release weather balloons every day.
--:-- Athena Dina: This is what we call long-term monitoring.
--:-- Athena Dina: And this is where we get the data sets that tell us that the changes we see today are unusual and they are different to what was happening 20 years ago or 30 years ago.
--:-- Athena Dina: But we've also got some other projects where we'll be looking at how ice falling off the glaciers creates waves within the ocean that changes the ocean circulation.
--:-- Athena Dina: We'll be looking at animals and how they're changing with their environment.
--:-- Athena Dina: They're under threat from pollution, microplastics, food availability, because the ocean temperatures are changing and their food is changing where it is.
--:-- Athena Dina: So some of those amazing animals that we think of in Antarctica are really under threat from climate change.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: According to the World Health Organisation around one in two people will experience some form of mental illness
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Help can come in the form of medication such as antidepressants or talking therapies
--:-- Claire Mawisa: There are those who are taking psychedelic drugs, as is the case in South Africa, where self-styled shamans or healers have been offering them.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Some studies suggest that together with therapy, these drugs might help, but medical professionals are urging caution due to side effects and limited clinical evidence.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: BBC Africa Eye's Claire Mawisa has been finding out more.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Her report starts with rare access to a healing ceremony in Cape Town.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Stuart Dodd sits in the middle of the floor looking expectantly upwards to a woman who is chanting and swirling slightly while she beats a drum.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: He's hoping she can help him with his anxiety and depression, not by conventional counselling, but by what this woman calls a journey.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Mum passed away suddenly, so that was a hell of a thing.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: And then my ex, I had a 17-and-a-half-year relationship.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: That broke off a year after mum died as well.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: So that's kind of when the rub got pulled out a little bit.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: But the healing journey I've been on is trying to unlayer these layers of finding out why I have these separation anxiety issues.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Megan describes herself as a medicine woman and this journey she is conducting, which costs 2,000 US dollars, includes giving Stuart illicit substances which he consented to.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: We're very aware that we're working in illegal circumstances, but we believe that it is righteous civil disobedience.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: What has qualified you to come to those doses?
--:-- Claire Mawisa: My own experience and my own learning and research.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: How are you sourcing your medicine?
--:-- Claire Mawisa: In the underground.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: So there is such a fertile world of people who are engaging with medicines in all ways.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: What Megan is doing is not a one-off.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Spend a few minutes online scrolling and there is a vast selection of self-proclaimed healers who make profound promises, yet there is very little oversight.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Dr. Marcel Statsny, the convener of the South African Society of Psychiatrists, warns about the danger.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: There's quite a lot of science behind something before it's called a medicine.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: You can't use it to treat mental illness if you haven't diagnosed and assessed the mental illness.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Do you think that these shamans, self-proclaimed healers, know the dangers?
--:-- Claire Mawisa: No, they've got no clue.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: They don't know what they don't know.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: They just know that they took a trip, felt great and want to help people.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Stuart's journey is continuing with intense movements made and it's pointed out to Megan that he seems uncomfortable
--:-- Claire Mawisa: It looks like we should be worried about his condition or his state
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Perhaps things not going as smoothly as expected
--:-- Claire Mawisa: No, not at all
--:-- Claire Mawisa: So it's just a part of the process
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Megan offers him more MDMA
--:-- Claire Mawisa: He comes across as unsure but does eventually take it
--:-- Claire Mawisa: He had given consent for a top-up of MDMA before the journey.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: However, Dr. Statsny of the South African Society of Psychiatrists says that a person already on drugs is not able to give consent.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: In order to give consent, you have to be in touch with reality.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: If a person has already had psilocybin and MDMA, they aren't in touch with reality.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: They're intoxicated. They're high.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: These so-called journeys don't always go smoothly.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Sunette Hill is meditating on a beach.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: She's a self-appointed psychedelic guide who gave a client Ibogaine, a powerful West African drug.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: He grabbed me by my throat.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: He wanted to kill me.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Something came over him and he just wanted to kill me.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Her husband had intervened and saved her.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Despite this, she justified not having suitable qualifications.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Well, you're not a qualified medical professional.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: But I don't have any faith in the medical world.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: I honest to God think psychedelics can heal the world.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Two weeks after Stuart's journey, he told the BBC that although he wasn't fully healed, he felt he had made some progress.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: I can feel that it's kind of opening stuff up where I probably will do another journey as well after this.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Self-proclaimed healers like Megan and Sinet claim this is the new frontier of mental health treatments.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: But to the experts in the medical profession, this illegal, unregulated industry remains dangerous territory.
--:-- Claire Mawisa: Claire Moisa and you can watch her Africa Eye documentary, Shadow Healers, South Africa's Psychedelic Journey, on BBC iPlayer in the UK and on the World Service YouTube channel.
--:-- Nick Johnson: Winning the contest involves skewing a horse chestnut and dangling it on a string to make a conquer, and then using it to break the conkers of anyone else taking part.
--:-- Nick Johnson: Last year, the men's champion was accused of winning by illicitly using a conker made of steel, hence the security checks.
--:-- Nick Johnson: The nut-on-nut thwacking thrums around the garden of the Shukbra arms.
--:-- Nick Johnson: Each brandishing a conker attached to the end of an eight-inch length of lace, pairs of contestants climb atop knee-high platforms to face off against one another.
--:-- Nick Johnson: Last year's competition was plunged into controversy after the champion, or King Conker, David Jenkins, was spotted with a steel conker following his victory, sparking rumours of cheating, of which he was cleared.
--:-- Nick Johnson: This year's security has been tightened with the introduction of a makeshift steel conker detector.
--:-- Nick Johnson: First-time player, 37-year-old Matt Cross from Lincolnshire, was crowned world champion.
--:-- Nick Johnson: I've turned up, you know, expecting to go out in round two or three, have a good go, first time here.
--:-- Nick Johnson: And then, yeah, every round is like, well, I've got through, let's give it another go, and it's just snowballed.
--:-- Alex Ritson: And congratulations also to Margaret Blake, who won the women's contest.
--:-- Alex Ritson: And that's all from us for now, but there'll be a new edition of the Global News Podcast later.
--:-- Alex Ritson: If you want to comment on this podcast or the topics covered in it, you can send us an email.
--:-- Alex Ritson: The address is globalpodcast at bbc.co.uk.
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--:-- Alex Ritson: This edition was mixed by Caroline Driscoll and produced by Muzaffar Shakir and Wendy Urquhart.
--:-- Alex Ritson: The editor is Karen Martin.
--:-- Alex Ritson: I'm Alex Ritz and until next time, goodbye.
--:-- Asma Khalid: America is changing and so is the world.
--:-- Asma Khalid: But what's happening in America isn't just a cause of global upheaval
--:-- Asma Khalid: It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere.
--:-- Asma Khalid: I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, D.C.
--:-- Asma Khalid: I'm Tristan Redman in London, and this is The Global Story.
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