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A groundbreaking new study claims to have found a way for a fully paralyzed person to communicate entirely via thought. But as we learned in an episode earlier this year, the scientists behind it have a checkered past. This episode was produced by Miles Bryan, edited by Matt Collette, engineered by Efim Shapiro, fact-checked by Tori Dominguez and Laura Bullard, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Transcript at vox.com/todayexplained Support Today, Explained by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

If you buy Salesforce to avoid fixing a broken sales process, you fail. If you buy AI to avoid fixing a broken business, you fail faster.

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Are tech giants racing toward human extinction by building uncontrollable superintelligence? This debate brings together four distinct voices at the forefront of the artificial intelligence revolution:  Ed Zitron - A prominent tech critic and CEO of EZPR, a national technology and business public relations and primary research agency Andrew McAfee - Principal research scientist at MIT and Cofounder and Codirector of the MIT Initiative on the Digital Economy  Nate Soares - President of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute and author of *If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies* Roman Yampolskiy - Computer scientist pioneer in the field of AI safety, cybersecurity and digital forensics In this debate, they explain: ■ The Sandbox Breakout: How a recent swarm of AI agents bypassed security restrictions, cheated on their evaluations, and actively attempted to delete their own log files to hide their tracks from human overseers. ■ Recursive Self-Improvement: The structural mechanics behind the "fast takeoff" theory, detailing how an AI capable of automated research could exponentially upgrade its own intelligence and architectures in a matter of days. ■ The Illusion of Control: Why attempting to contain an artificial superintelligence is comparable to placing a digital Einstein in a jail cell with an internet connection. ■ The Alignment Trap: How the process of training AI to predict human text inherently forces it to become smarter than the humans providing the data. ■ Present Harms vs. Future Extinction: The ideological divide over whether we must immediately halt AI research to prevent a rogue superintelligence, or increasingly regulate the massive compute expenditures of tech monopolies to address economic and security threats. Chapters 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:22 How Likely Is AI to Cause Human Extinction? 00:04:08 How Could AI Actually Cause Human Extinction? 00:09:46 Why AI Safety Became an Urgent Priority 00:11:15 Roman’s Case for Taking AI Risk Seriously 00:15:04 Can Humans Control an AI Smarter Than Us? 00:26:13 How Do You Control Something Smarter Than You? 00:29:19 Will AI Intelligence Keep Accelerating? 00:41:40 What Are the Real Risks of Superintelligence? 00:50:04 When Does AI Become an Existential Crisis? 01:00:15 How Much Job Disruption Could AI Really Cause? 01:14:57 Why AI Companies Believe They Can Control Superintelligence 01:20:30 Should We Give Up AI Ownership to Protect Cybersecurity? 01:36:32 What Happens If AI Companies Stay on This Path? 01:43:50 What Are AI Logs and Why Do They Matter? 01:52:45 Could a Non-Coder Build a Jail for an AI Einstein? 02:00:33 How Does the Future of AI Make You Feel? 02:06:42 How Soon Could We Reach Superintelligence? 02:19:51 Who Should Be Held Accountable for AI-Related Cybercrime? Follow Ed Zitron: Linktree - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/4XH1I3o Better Offline - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/D46entx X - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/5Lv4gas AI Is Already In Dangerous Hands - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/HFEKLgG Where’s Your Ed At Newsletter - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/PKEJr1 You can get $10 off your first year of Where's Your Ed At Premium, here - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/BE4VQcS Follow Andrew McAfee: Website - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/xKxOg7 X - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/Bf2vyMQ Linkedin - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/Ek3IQqI Substack - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/EBbsts8 Follow Nate Soares: If Anyone Builds it, Everyone Dies - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/4zIyY9u X - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/8gDoVCU Linkedin - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/9Q3PAc YouTube - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/AwerSzm Follow Roman Yampolskiy: Who is Roman Yampolskiy? - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/8ikum9s Research Papers - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/G2BbVXx Roman Forum Podcast - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/7zvifcd Books: https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/5Bn72tw Social Media:  X - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/65G3fhN Facebook - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/HRMWccu Linkedin -  https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/FM85mii The Diary Of A CEO: ◼ Join DOAC circle here - https://doaccircle.com/ ◼ Buy The Diary Of A CEO book here - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/BWjLTZK ◼ Shop The Diary Of A CEO collection: https://thediary.com/collections/shop ◼ Get email updates - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/5IB1H6E Sponsors: Pipedrive - https://pipedrive.com/CEO Wayfair - Visit http://Wayfair.com to start your home refresh

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This episode is a master class on how to live an incredible life. In one of the most powerful conversations ever recorded on The Mel Robbins Podcast, Mel sits down with someone she has looked up to for more than four decades: Oprah Winfrey. Mel first started watching Oprah on local television, before The Oprah Winfrey Show was nationally syndicated. Through every chapter of her own life, Mel has returned to Oprah’s work for perspective, encouragement, and direction. This is more than an interview for Mel. It is deeply personal. Now you get to hear the questions she has wanted to ask Oprah for years. Oprah starts this episode by saying, “I want everybody to know that you have the power to fulfill the fullest expression of yourself as a human being.” She is teaching you how to do that today. Oprah shares what she learned, growing up feeling unloved and “red dirt road poor” in Mississippi to extraordinary success. She discusses painful mistakes, difficult family relationships, and moments when she ignored her own intuition and paid the price. What she reveals is surprisingly simple: You already have an internal GPS. Oprah will teach you how to hear it, and find the courage to follow it. In this episode, you’ll learn: -How to recognize the thread of purpose that has been running through your life all along -Why intention changes the way you experience your work, relationships, and choices -The single question Oprah asks when something in her life is not working -Oprah’s best advice: “You are allowed to change your mind,” and what happened when she ignored it -What to do when something painful or unfair happens and you have to figure out how to move forward -Oprah’s life-changing definition of forgiveness -The “10-gallon versus pint-size” lesson that helped her heal her relationship with her mother -The single spiritual practice Oprah comes back to again and again If Oprah Winfrey could sit beside you and help you think through the biggest questions in your life, this is the conversation she would want you to hear. This conversation will help you come back to your center and look at your own life differently. Start paying attention to the life that has been speaking to you all along. There is something in this episode for wherever you are in your life right now. This is a must-listen episode. For more resources related to today’s episode, click here for the podcast episode page. Mel is going to Oprah Winfrey’s AHA at Sphere Las Vegas! And she’s thrilled to share that Oprah has given listeners of this show early access to tickets for the event with code MELAHA. This presale is from Wednesday, September 23 at 10 AM PT to Thursday, September 24 at 10 PM PT Use presale code MELAHA to purchase tickets HERE. If you liked the episode, check out this one next: How to Master Your Emotions & Never Get Angry or Bothered by Anyone Connect with Mel: Order Mel’s product, Pure Genius Protein Get Mel’s newsletter, packed with tools, coaching, and inspiration. Get Mel’s #1 bestselling book, The Let Them Theory Watch the episodes on YouTube Follow Mel on Instagram The Mel Robbins Podcast Instagram Mel's TikTok Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes ad-free Disclaimer

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