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--:-- John Bickley: One out of every three minority voters pulled the lever for Donald Trump this election. That included massive gains among Hispanic voters, nearly half of whom voted for him this time around. That surge in support has left many strategists asking what's driving Hispanics towards Republicans and whether this trend will continue.
--:-- Georgia Howe: I'm Daily Wire editor-in-chief John Bickley with Georgia Howe. It's November 16th, and this is a Saturday edition of Morning Wire.
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--:-- Georgia Howe: Joining us to discuss the political realignment of Hispanic voters is Jim Robb, Vice President of Alliances at Numbers USA. That's a nonpartisan immigration reform group.
--:-- Jim Robb: Hey, thanks for having me.
--:-- Georgia Howe: So with Donald Trump's victory, we saw him pick up votes from several new groups that didn't show him as much enthusiasm back in 2016 and 2020. That includes the Hispanic vote while Harris won the demographic. It wasn't by much. And Hispanic men particularly voted for Trump. What's causing this shift in that demographic? Why is it happening now?
--:-- Jim Robb: Well, the number one reason is probably inflation, but close on its heels is illegal immigration. So we did a lot of polling on this subject before the election and over the years, but particularly this year with Rasmussen, our polling partner, and we got some really wild answers, unexpected. At least some would not have expected it.
--:-- Georgia Howe: For example, we asked on the question of illegal immigration, is the government doing too much or too little to reduce illegal border crossings and visitor overstays? And amongst Hispanic likely voters, 55 percent said the government is doing too little.
--:-- Jim Robb: And we asked this question consistently for the past couple of years. It was always very high amongst Hispanics higher than for black voters and almost as high as for the Anglo white group.
--:-- Georgia Howe: Now historically this demographic has loyally voted blue. How does the 2024 election compare to Trump's first round in the 2016 race?
--:-- Jim Robb: Well, the thing that was surprising in 2016 is that more Hispanics voted for Trump in 16 than who had voted for Romney four years earlier. And that shocked everybody because Trump was very clear that he was going to stress deportations and the border wall. And he used some very unflattering language about some Mexican immigrants.
--:-- Georgia Howe: But the thing that Democrats have forgotten or have not learned is that Hispanic voters are Americans. They're American citizens. That's why they vote.
--:-- Jim Robb: And of the 62 million Hispanics living in this country as of the 2020 census, two thirds were actually born in this country. And another eight million of those not born here have become U.S. citizens because they came in legally.
--:-- Georgia Howe: So we really have a citizen Hispanic population and they're Americans and they know which side they're on. They want the same thing that other Americans want for their families. They want a good job. They want prices in the store they can afford. They want safe streets. They want secure borders.
--:-- Jim Robb: And I think the Democrats fell into this false notion that people vote as a bloc and that Hispanics, main thing they want is more people that look like them in the country when nothing's further from the truth.
--:-- Georgia Howe: Hispanics are just like other Americans, I think, in that respect. They want what's good for their families.
--:-- Jim Robb: So is the argument here that part of this is just the continued increasing Americanization of more Hispanics, more generations born here that see themselves as just Americans, not as Hispanic Americans?
--:-- Georgia Howe: My research indicates that the more people are comfortable with the English language, the more Republican they're voting.
--:-- Jim Robb: And so, for example, if people are speaking mostly English at home, they're more Republican. If Hispanics are more religious, they're voting more Republican. But that's true of every ethnic group.
--:-- Georgia Howe: People who are married vote more Republican. I think Democrats forget that Hispanic is not a race.
--:-- Jim Robb: Hispanics can be white, black, Asian, Indian. And it's not even, strictly speaking, an ethnicity. It's people from 20 Spanish-speaking countries or so.
--:-- Georgia Howe: They don't have a common culture between them, really. People from Argentina and Costa Rica and these places are thousands of miles apart and develop quite separately.
--:-- Jim Robb: So these are people who have come in and over time, as they're here a while, they assimilate into American culture.
--:-- Georgia Howe: We find that Hispanics are very high on America in their polling responses. They feel welcomed here.
--:-- Jim Robb: And the more welcomed they say they are, the more likely they are to vote Republican.
--:-- Georgia Howe: Hispanics serve in the armed forces at high numbers, even higher than their numbers in the population.
--:-- Jim Robb: Hispanics tend to be patriotic. They tend to believe in the American dream feel good about this country
--:-- Georgia Howe: One thing Brasmussen asked is if it was likely here the quote was it likely that the increased immigration the illegal immigration in the past few years was purposefully allowed by the Biden administration?
--:-- Jim Robb: And amongst Hispanics, 35% said yes, very likely. And another 33% said somewhat likely. So that's 68%.
--:-- Georgia Howe: That's higher than the number who felt that way amongst whites.
--:-- Jim Robb: So Hispanics felt that Biden was engineering a collapsed border. And obviously, the voting says they resented it, like all other Americans.
--:-- Georgia Howe: And one important thing is that Hispanics of Texas and other border regions voted even heavier for Trump.
--:-- Jim Robb: Yeah, I wanted to ask about Texas. What did we see there and in other border states.
--:-- Georgia Howe: So Texas, an outright majority of Hispanics voted for Trump. And then Florida, which is another, it's not a border state in terms of a land border, but it's got a water border, right? With all these islands.
--:-- Jim Robb: And so they're getting lots of illegal immigration to Hispanics voted for Trump.
--:-- Georgia Howe: Arizona and other places like that, many of them, Hispanics voted outright for Trump.
--:-- Jim Robb: And I think the reason is they do feel there was an invasion of sorts going on and that it was encouraged by the Biden administration.
--:-- Georgia Howe: So the youngest group of Hispanics, they were born in this country. They're educated in English. They read the U.S. Internet. They know which side they're on.
--:-- Jim Robb: And they don't like it that people are coming up competing for jobs.
--:-- Georgia Howe: When people go, especially in the Southwest, when you go to the emergency room to seek emergency care, you can't be seen for hours sometimes because illegal immigrants are jammed into this because they don't have insurance.
--:-- Jim Robb: They don't have doctors. So if they get sick at all, they've got to go to the emergency room.
--:-- Georgia Howe: People see this in the schools in the Southwest. The kids are being educated in trailers behind the schools because they're so crowded with all these new arrivals.
--:-- Jim Robb: And people know that it's because Biden and Harris were not even concerned that this was going on. And they sent signals to the whole world that America is open for illegal immigration and people came.
--:-- Georgia Howe: The legacy media has been really sounding the alarm over Trump's deportation plans.
--:-- Jim Robb: How do you think the deportation messaging from him and the appointments he's already made for his cabinet like Tom Homan, how do you think that's going to resonate with Hispanic voters?
--:-- Georgia Howe: Well, people who are here illegally are already beginning to panic.
--:-- Jim Robb: I've been hearing this from various sources, and they have reason to worry.
--:-- Georgia Howe: But Trump doesn't have like a magic army that nobody can see. He's got a certain limited number of ICE agents he can put into this.
--:-- Jim Robb: And I don't know, maybe the army will be involved, but it would be in a supporting role, we've already learned.
--:-- Georgia Howe: So it's going to be a fairly slow thing. But the thing is, there hasn't been any deportations under Biden.
--:-- Jim Robb: So it's going to look like a lot. Now, I think what they ought to do sooner rather then later is pass mandatory e-verify for every U.S. business.
--:-- Georgia Howe: Because e-verify is something that was set up 30 years ago.
--:-- Jim Robb: Half of new hires are run through e every year now because lots of people have to use it because they government contractors or they volunteer to use it.
--:-- Georgia Howe: But if we can get the rest of the employers to use it and make it mandatory, then these fake social security cards that illegal immigrants present to get a job would be spotted as fake and that people wouldn't get those jobs.
--:-- Jim Robb: It wouldn't cause a revolution. Existing employees, even if they're illegal, can't be run through E-Verify.
--:-- Georgia Howe: But as people shift jobs or they're getting a new job, then E-Verify would stop them.
--:-- Jim Robb: And a lot of people, once they get the message that you can't get jobs in America or you can't easily get them, where you can only get very substandard under the table work, they'll begin to drift home.
--:-- Georgia Howe: And that's the smart move. It won't cost anything. The system works now. It's set up now. We should do it.
--:-- Jim Robb: Rasmussen asked Hispanics, do you support or oppose legislation to implement e-verify, which would make it harder for businesses to hire illegal aliens?
--:-- Georgia Howe: And 36% said, yes, they strongly support that. And another 30% said they somewhat support it. That's 66%.
--:-- Jim Robb: Two thirds of Hispanics want mandatory e-verify. It's popular amongst every group. It's the easy win. It costs nothing. Congress should do it right away.
--:-- Georgia Howe: Well, as we've mentioned, we've seen a trend for a few elections now of more and more Hispanics voting Republican.
--:-- Jim Robb: Do you see this continuing? Is this going to be the trend going forward?
--:-- Georgia Howe: Yes. More Hispanics will continue to vote Republican primarily because they're a working class group.
--:-- Jim Robb: Eighty five percent of them don't have a college degree at this time, although the Younger Hispanics are enrolled at colleges at pretty good rates.
--:-- Georgia Howe: But right now it's working class and working class populations across every ethnicity and race in America are shifting Republican because Republicans are talking about things that matter to them, like keeping prices low, like secure borders, about making businesses be able to take off by lowering regulations, things like that.
--:-- Jim Robb: Lunch pail issues, as the Democrats used to call it when they cared about such things.
--:-- Georgia Howe: So because of that, the trend will continue, I think.
--:-- Jim Robb: And I don't think there's any end in sight unless Democrats wake up and want to return their party to something like a party that working people could support.
--:-- Georgia Howe: Right now, it's all trendy issues and identity groups.
--:-- Jim Robb: Final button here. What do you think is the biggest takeaway in terms of the Hispanic population that Democrats, Republicans, everyone should internalize from this election?
--:-- Georgia Howe: Being tough on crime, tough on the border, muscular foreign policy, these issues appeal to working people and Hispanics like it.
--:-- Jim Robb: And Hispanics are Americans. They're working Americans who want what other working Americans want for their families.
--:-- Georgia Howe: Republicans certainly appearing to have embraced that view far more than Democrats.
--:-- Jim Robb: Jim, thanks so much for coming on today.
--:-- Georgia Howe: My pleasure.
--:-- John Bickley: That was Jim Robb, Vice President of Alliances at Numbers USA, and this has been a Saturday edition of Morning Wire.
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