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--:-- Pablo Torre: I can't remember who said it, but someone said that I have an older sister vibe with you, which I at first was, I took as a compliment, but then I don't like being thought of as older than you. I'm like two weeks older than you.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I say all the time on the record that I've looked up to you as an older journalist for so much of my career.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Happy birthday, belatedly, to my birthday brother.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Speaking of our familial relationship, that's pretty wild.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Libra gang. Libra gang.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I induced, as you know, because I was like, I got to have him on Pablo's birthday.
--:-- Pablo Torre: The other reason was that he was trending gigantic. Remains gigantic. Still gigantic.
--:-- Pablo Torre: What's the toddler combine? What are his numbers look like?
--:-- Pablo Torre: I think, so we're about to have the two, we haven't had the two-year-old appointment, but you get the percentile.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I'm pretty sure he's still 90th weight. Size is above average.
--:-- Pablo Torre: He's definitely leaning out a little bit, though, now that he runs around.
--:-- Pablo Torre: But he's still very large.
--:-- Pablo Torre: You're disappointed.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I like the idea of having an extremely large son.
--:-- Pablo Torre: He doesn't know his own strength, though.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like sometimes he'll accidentally push me and I'm like, ow.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yeah, I like, I just have Nino pushing a sled, you know.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like a blocking sled?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
--:-- Pablo Torre: He's very physical.
--:-- Pablo Torre: He likes physical stuff.
--:-- Pablo Torre: He goes to like baby gym.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Did Violet ever do like the little, do they have that in New York?
--:-- Pablo Torre: My gym?
--:-- Pablo Torre: We did ninja class.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Various just like, yeah, padded floors that you can just like bounce off of.
--:-- Pablo Torre: On one hand, you're like, this is like equinox money for someone to just like sit on the floor where the children roll around.
--:-- Pablo Torre: But on the other hand, like, they do, like, balance beams and it's a lot of ball pits.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Violet showed up one day, or at least as I experienced it, showed up one day at home and was just doing, like, forward rolls.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It was like her unputed series of forward rolls.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I was like, holy shit.
--:-- Pablo Torre: That's a real...
--:-- Pablo Torre: Did she want to do gymnastics?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Did she play any sports?
--:-- Pablo Torre: She's in soccer.
--:-- Pablo Torre: How's that going?
--:-- Pablo Torre: She is one of the most methodical and deliberate, but slow dribblers.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like the videos are of her just like making sure she is perfectly nudging this along, but she is the slowest and most careful of all of the, yeah, prospects in that class.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Did you play soccer growing up?
--:-- Pablo Torre: I played through grade school.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Just through grade school?
--:-- Pablo Torre: The Manhattan Kickers.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Did you, you stuck with basketball till high school?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Grade school.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I tapped out.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Did you play any sports after grade school?
--:-- Pablo Torre: I mean, wait, yes.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Varsity Lincoln-Douglas debate.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Oh, my God.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Do you now want to brag about your high school soccer career?
--:-- Pablo Torre: No, I just can't believe this has never come up as you were a sports writer that you abandoned sports after... I mean...
--:-- Pablo Torre: Elementary school.
--:-- Pablo Torre: People just looked at me and they were like, this guy must have the credibility to talk about the greatest athletes in the world.
--:-- Pablo Torre: They didn't really ask follow-ups.
--:-- Pablo Torre: You played varsity soccer.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I did, and I played club soccer through... high school as well.
--:-- Pablo Torre: So I played a lot of soccer and it took up a lot of time and energy.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And that is something I'm not quite looking forward to, like the Ubering aspect of being a sports parent where you're just driving them places constantly, it sounds like.
--:-- Pablo Torre: But it was a big part of my upbringing and important.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I think for girls, playing team sports is so valuable.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I mean, look, right now, Violet is so young that it's all obviously co-ed.
--:-- Pablo Torre: But when she's in games and you're on the sidelines and you start having opinions about the tactics that's when you become a sports yeah
--:-- Pablo Torre: I can't wait for that so by the way relatedly what I'm realizing is like a sports parent to be is that also a lot of these cliches are true like parenting my feelings my circuitry being activated Violet who started kindergarten now last month of September.
--:-- Pablo Torre: There was a point where we, Liz and I brought her to the curb and put her on the yellow school bus.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And there's a point at which she's like waving out the window of this yellow school bus, like receding across the horizon line.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And I'm like... Crying?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yeah, I'm like, of course.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I'm that guy.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Everybody's that dad.
--:-- Pablo Torre: But then you go to like the sports side of it and you're like, ah, yes, valuable lessons about teamwork.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Right.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And what it means to stand up for yourself and how to assert yourself in mixed gender environments.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And I'm like, oh, yeah, this is also real.
--:-- Pablo Torre: There's a reason why all the cliches about parenting end up, it's a pretty universal experience.
--:-- Pablo Torre: The same feelings and concerns are activated for everybody.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Give me a non-parenting cliche that you believe in, that you think people should be aware of?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like a take.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like a hot take, potentially?
--:-- Pablo Torre: You want a take?
--:-- Pablo Torre: We're doing parenting first take.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Oh, oh.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I mean, this one is increasingly the older my kid gets, the more I, and maybe this is a cliche, so maybe it's a bad answer, but I believe I'm meeting him more than shaping him.
--:-- Pablo Torre: He just is who he is, and I get the once-in-a-life experience of watching that become reality.
--:-- Pablo Torre: But it's for all the time I spend worrying about the tiny little things.
--:-- Pablo Torre: What if we don't do this language thing?
--:-- Pablo Torre: What if he starts preschool?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Ultimately, he just kind of is who he is.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yeah, we discover, we find out more than we are able to inculcate.
--:-- Pablo Torre: We can't all be.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Everybody, I think part of all the sports parenting stuff is that you want to be like Richard Williams or Earl Woods or whatever.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And it's less that and more like figuring out, oh, this is who I'm living with.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And that's going to be a big, like, he might not want to play sports.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Right now, he looks so physical and active and he loves tumbling and he's, like, just a boy and every, like, just such a boy.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I mean, my son is just such a little bro.
--:-- Pablo Torre: What does that mean when you're two?
--:-- Pablo Torre: I can tell you what it means.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I got him a, his little, he's part of this toddler crew, and I got him this little stroller.
--:-- Pablo Torre: They all have, because they were all fighting over in other kids' shows.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's clearly a hot item on the playground.
--:-- Pablo Torre: So I got him a little one from Target.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And the next day, I saw him with the stroller, and he turned around, and he had put a dump truck in the stroller.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And he was pushing around the truck in the stroller.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Instead of like a baby doll.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yes, instead of a baby doll, because that was his most prized position.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I feel like that pretty clearly illustrates what a little bro.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Dump truck and big bus weren't his first words, but they were maybe his first compound words.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Big bus, dump truck, forklift.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Are you not exposed to any of this because you have a little girl, like the little boy universe?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like, for example, he has so many books about trucks.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's crazy.
--:-- Pablo Torre: The most popular kids, like, just Goodnight Construction Site, Trash Truck.
--:-- Pablo Torre: There's so much content around trucks.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I like that we are absolutely raising our children, again, or allowing our children to just express the most traditional gender roles.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Allowing is the key.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I thought that Violet was into construction stuff.
--:-- Pablo Torre: As a kid.
--:-- Pablo Torre: As a kid.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And she is.
--:-- Pablo Torre: But then compared to my nephew, Miguel, who is like younger.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And like there is an amusement park.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Of trucks?
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's like sit in a tractor.
--:-- Pablo Torre: If a trash truck, especially one that makes noises, drives by, my son, it'll be like full Bugs Bunny eye.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Eyes, hard eyes, everything stops.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Pepe Le Pew turns around.
--:-- Pablo Torre: We have to sit here.
--:-- Pablo Torre: We have to watch it.
--:-- Pablo Torre: We have to comment on it.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And then he like can't tear his eyes away from it.
--:-- Pablo Torre: He thinks it's the best thing in the world.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I'm looking up.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Okay, this is what it is.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Diggerland.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Oh my God, that sounds like his dream.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Berlin Township, New Jersey.
--:-- Pablo Torre: The one and only construction theme and water park in the U.S.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Look at this.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Hold on.
--:-- Pablo Torre: She's just not into this stuff anymore.
--:-- Pablo Torre: She is, but it's just like she's wearing princess stuff.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And I'm like, just like, look, there's like crane truck excavator.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's bigger.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I, the other thing about these truck-based books is they're all like cinematic universes.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Do you ever go to, we just go to Barnes and Noble and like hang out.
--:-- Pablo Torre: So you go to the kids section.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Now it really is like all content.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like there's obviously a lot of original and new ones.
--:-- Pablo Torre: But if there's a hit like Goodnight Construction Site then there's like 20 spinoffs like Goodnight Construction Site Valentine's Day edition.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Because every single one of these popular books has a full spinoff series and you have to get them all.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Has Nino gotten a whiff of like words he says and does he know about them?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yeah, there a few.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yeah, what are the words that I don't a lot of scatological stuff.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It a mean saying poop to Violet is like the funniest thing in the world.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yeah, my brother-in-law got him a fart machine that makes different signs of farts.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And he is just at the age where he understands it's funny now because he sees people's reactions.
--:-- Pablo Torre: He's starting to develop like humor now, right, and starting to see people's reactions.
--:-- Pablo Torre: By the way, do you think people enjoy hearing us talk about our kids or—
--:-- Pablo Torre: Because I sometimes realize that if people don't have kids, I really try to remember they do not want to hear about your kids.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I feel like that's a risk I'm willing to take.
--:-- Pablo Torre: That's not here.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Let's talk about our kids.
--:-- Pablo Torre: My take, my last take in the kids section of today's programming is like, it's okay to not throw a birthday party.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Ooh, that's a hot take.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Because what I've learned is that every kid needs to invite every other kid.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And it's a whole thing.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And there are a zillion of them every weekend.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And I just think we cannot do that.
--:-- Pablo Torre: You want to opt out.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I'm sure your five-year-old daughter would be totally cool with not having a birthday party while everyone else in her class does.
--:-- Pablo Torre: A tough way for Violet to find out that we're not throwing her a birthday party at Diggerland.
--:-- Pablo Torre: So Nino just had a birthday party.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It was Elmo-themed.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It was what-themed?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Elmo-themed.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Elmo-themed, great.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yes, yeah.
--:-- Pablo Torre: So I was just asking around, like, what kind of stuff do I have to get?
--:-- Pablo Torre: And all my parent friends were like, you got to get this, this, this, this.
--:-- Pablo Torre: So what I didn't account for was it was Nino's first exposure to juice, apple juice in particular.
--:-- Pablo Torre: He's never had, like, pure uncut apple juice.
--:-- Pablo Torre: That Colombian.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And at this party, so it was in a little play area, so the kids were all penned in, which was the kind of most important thing.
--:-- Pablo Torre: At this age.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And every time I turned around, he would be like, it was like watching like the beginning of like Requiem for a Dream and I swear to God that party was two weeks ago
--:-- Pablo Torre: I wake up I take him down and get his breakfast and he looks at me and he goes apple juice and I'm like we don't have that and he gets so mad and it's been two weeks and he's still thinking about the high of drinking he drank like four apple juices at his birthday
--:-- Pablo Torre: So can you blame him
--:-- Pablo Torre: I mean it's good Nina's gonna this is like what happens when your parents are super strict the strictest parents raise the most uncontrollable
--:-- Pablo Torre: I wasn't allowed to eat sweets growing up at all?
--:-- Pablo Torre: No we were but not like we ate like a lot of fruit I didn't have like junky cereals so when I would go to like my friends' houses Lucky Charms holy shit oh my god encountering a loose charm
--:-- Pablo Torre: Damn did you ever eat in college the charms out of the Lucky Charms
--:-- Pablo Torre: Oh yeah yeah Yeah yeah
--:-- Pablo Torre: I got to college and I was a menace with the bad free foods in the cafeteria.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's like once you discover that they just sell stuff in an Oreo.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Oh, my God.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Just stuff.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I also, like, gained a lot of weight because I stopped playing soccer.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like, not a lot of weight, but, like, I didn't realize that it turns out when you don't work out five hours a day, you can't have Taco Bell four times a day.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It took me a while to learn that lesson.
--:-- Pablo Torre: But no, I'm not even that strict with Nino's food.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's just literally, it's funny because he's had like cake and cookies and it's nothing has hit like apple juice has hit his system.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Nothing.
--:-- Pablo Torre: You got to get that apple juice live read on your show.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I know.
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--:-- Pablo Torre: He saw me drinking a beer and thought it was apple juice and got mad the other day.
--:-- Pablo Torre: He was like, mama apple juice?
--:-- Pablo Torre: I'm like, this isn't apple juice.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's special mama drink.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Special mama drink.
--:-- Pablo Torre: The subtext of all of this is that both of us are now 40 years old.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I know.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I hate it.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I know.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I hate it.
--:-- Pablo Torre: You're wrapping yourself in a very luxurious sweater.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Thanks.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Very soft.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Looks very comfy.
--:-- Pablo Torre: If you're like me, which I think you are to a degree, you're not trying to think a lot about that.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like mortality?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Mortality.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like, what is it?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Look, I had a great birthday.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I choose not to dwell so much on, like, what does this mean?
--:-- Pablo Torre: What does this mean?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Did it hit you?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Not so much in, like, I'm taking stock of my life and what I'm doing with it.
--:-- Pablo Torre: More so, it does feel like, wow, I'm in a really different phase of my life.
--:-- Pablo Torre: But I would say a lot more of that is having, because my son's birthday is two weeks after mine.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And I think it was funny for me to like have his birthday but my even ahead of my birthday which is like supposed to be this big momentous birthday
--:-- Pablo Torre: I was thinking much more about his birthday and planning it and what that means and I suppose that's the such been such an overwhelming change in my life and how I see the world and think about things and all of that that it's kind of subsumed me and my own personal milestones, if that, does that make sense?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yeah, I mean, it's a long way of saying, yes, I too do not choose to engage with what this means for me personally.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's the most conventional dividing line of we were young, now we are not.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And I think both of us benefited and, in my case at least, like, you know, took pride in the fact that look at everything that I'm up to and I'm not even this age yet.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And now I am that age now.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And I feel very proud.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And this is not a woe is me in any way.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's just, I think everybody feels like they're still young is my hypothesis.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like we're not unique in that.
--:-- Pablo Torre: But, you know, it's undeniable that we are not.
--:-- Pablo Torre: You know what I think I feel now that I think is very much like, well, I'm a Jerry Ash millennial and I'm 40.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And the biggest difference between me is I, and I don't think this was true 10 years ago when I was 30 thinking about people in their 20s.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Maybe some of this is due to having a kid, but like I worry a lot more for people who are younger than me and I don't envy them.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And I think it's a really hard time to be in your 20s.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's a really hard time to be growing up.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And I don't think I felt that way when I was like, when I turned 30.
--:-- Pablo Torre: But I don't think that's about me and my age so much as it is like the world and the state of things.
--:-- Pablo Torre: So that's a fair point.
--:-- Pablo Torre: So your kid, to kind of bring this full circle, is three years older than mine.
--:-- Pablo Torre: What is something that I have to look forward to in the next three years as we now turn two?
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's the greatest, oh God, to be the most cliche person.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like still to me, the feeling I chase the most like a drug Apple juice.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Your personal apple juice.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Sweet, sweet juice.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's just Violet laughing.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Does she still laugh at your jokes?
--:-- Pablo Torre: But what's happening is that she is laughing less on command.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And so it used to be a tickle was just like 100% success rate.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Oh, no.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I can't.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And now it's just sort of like, oh, no.
--:-- Pablo Torre: She used to ask for like.
--:-- Pablo Torre: There's this thing we do where she's like, I created these, or maybe she created these two characters, Barnaby and Theodore.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Theodore is a rabbit.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Barnaby is a lion.
--:-- Pablo Torre: And I would tell her a story, a Barnaby and Theodore story, in which I just tell her.
--:-- Pablo Torre: One day.
--:-- Pablo Torre: You were making them up off the rip.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yeah, I'm just riffing.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Okay, storyteller.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Just, you know.
--:-- Pablo Torre: You know people use ChatGPT to do this now for their kids.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's so depressing to me.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Just like putting in.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yeah, like make up a story about a rabbit.
--:-- Pablo Torre: You're a great dad.
--:-- Pablo Torre: You love to tell your kids stories about so I'm just like making but now it's like the bar is like I need to be better at it yeah you gotta level up yeah
--:-- Pablo Torre: So I've been accused of like and violate something like that was too short I'm like trying to end the story and I need to like have character development yeah
--:-- Pablo Torre: My go-to move is like something to look forward to this sounds challenging and but it what it is is like but when you succeed it feels more like communication yeah where there's a back and forth
--:-- Pablo Torre: I'm like oh that's true yes this is different but fulfilling yes and you feel like you're just like actually getting to know that person more right like I can't just do the story where they get hit with a shrink ray which is like 90% of my part of the theater is that your over tour is a lot of shrink rays yeah yeah
--:-- Pablo Torre: And there's a guy who lives on the 10th floor of our building who has a shrink ray and we always go to visit this guy Jim and he has a shrink ray and she's like you gotta you gotta bury up the stories here now you've given me a fear I didn't even know I had which is the day that my son stops finding everything I do to be the funniest thing in the world
--:-- Pablo Torre: I think I've mentioned to see people who are like I'll pull out stuff from like 90s humor he thinks I invented smoking smoking he's like wow my mother's comedic genius she should be playing the Riyadh Comedy Festival play her a million dollars these jokes are incredible he also like do not go in there it's like all Jim Carrey my character is the tickle monster and he and I and I give him a look and he just knows it's coming he just loses it and he starts running away so I do that too and I think you have a character we call it a tickle monster oh but IP violation that's my character tickle monster parentheses Pablo's version
--:-- Pablo Torre: Do you do like a menacing walk towards him?
--:-- Pablo Torre: I do this.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Oh, that's your move?
--:-- Pablo Torre: I do two index fingers.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I walk like I'm in the ring.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like I flip my hair forward and like crawl.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's actually quite terrifying.
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's amazing.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Maybe that's why he screams and runs away.
--:-- Pablo Torre: I just like how so far all of your mothering is ripping off movies you've seen.
--:-- Pablo Torre: This has inspired me to whip out Opposite Day.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Opposite Day?
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's like, that's a, Violet, that's a great picture.
--:-- Pablo Torre: On Opposite Day.
--:-- Pablo Torre: All right.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Got her.
--:-- Pablo Torre: Got her.
--:-- Pablo Torre: No but I think what you describing is like you know people always ask me like what is the best thing about being a parent now
--:-- Pablo Torre: And there a million things I could point to and kind of how it rewires you to see the world in a different way and makes you a more like simultaneously like a more optimistic and negative person or like negative is wrong anxious like having a child in this world at this moment like I feel better than ever about humanity because I witnessed like oh this pure sunshine but then you're also like you feel concerned all the time and scared
--:-- Pablo Torre: Um so that that's big but I think what you talked about is something that I think is maybe the best part of all which is you know a child is is their own person you're meeting them and they surprise you every day in new ways in some frustrating ways
--:-- Pablo Torre: But like when you get older you lose your capacity to be surprised in a pleasant way and to have someone who reminds you that that exists is really nice
--:-- Pablo Torre: Also the next phase I'm thinking about like kindergarten like we just visited Violet's class
--:-- Pablo Torre: And I'm like you see and maybe at two Nino's already doing this but like the self-portrait
--:-- Pablo Torre: Oh gosh yeah
--:-- Pablo Torre: And you just sort of like see how they see themselves that's really interesting
--:-- Pablo Torre: How they see you?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Does she draw you in a funny way?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Oh she has drawn me
--:-- Pablo Torre: Violet will draw portraits where after like there's a disagreement with me and Liz in which she wants she like loves seltzer
--:-- Pablo Torre: That is her apple juice actually
--:-- Pablo Torre: And so she just keeps on...
--:-- Pablo Torre: Does she call it spicy water?
--:-- Pablo Torre: When do kids start doing that?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Spicy water?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Is that an LA thing?
--:-- Pablo Torre: Maybe it's an LA thing
--:-- Pablo Torre: They all call it spicy water in LA
--:-- Pablo Torre: Whatever the hell you guys are lying to your kids about
--:-- Pablo Torre: We have seltzer
--:-- Pablo Torre: Anyway the point being Violet drew a picture of her next to me and Liz and she's crying
--:-- Pablo Torre: And we have a can of seltzer that she's like...
--:-- Pablo Torre: She expresses her emotions
--:-- Pablo Torre: She's crying because you won't give her seltzer
--:-- Pablo Torre: That's pretty funny
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's like emotionally holding us hostage by depicting us
--:-- Pablo Torre: So Nino doesn't draw yet because he's two
--:-- Pablo Torre: He can only draw like a squiggly angry line
--:-- Pablo Torre: But he in terms of like representation of me he does something that is also equally very telling or at least kind of gets to me
--:-- Pablo Torre: If there's a commercial and there's an Asian woman he'll point to it and say mama
--:-- Pablo Torre: Oh yeah
--:-- Pablo Torre: And I'm like Nino my guy
--:-- Pablo Torre: Doesn't always have to be the Asian woman
--:-- Pablo Torre: We don't all look the same
--:-- Pablo Torre: I know you're two
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yeah there's I don't know
--:-- Pablo Torre: I could do parents talk
--:-- Pablo Torre: It turns out longer than I planned on doing parents talks
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--:-- Pablo Torre: Whatever it is that keeps you up at night SimpliSafe is there to help you sleep better
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--:-- Pablo Torre: My timeline this week has been AI slop
--:-- Pablo Torre: Okay and bad bunny takes
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yeah and sometimes the two merging
--:-- Pablo Torre: I just think the NFL from this perspective from like the cultural perspective this is what I wanted
--:-- Pablo Torre: I actually did want to talk to you about
--:-- Pablo Torre: What a transition
--:-- Pablo Torre: How do we get from Oh god this is I'm so good at storytelling You should have Should have been from like The kids book part
--:-- Pablo Torre: There is a shrink ray
--:-- Pablo Torre: Speaking of bad bunnies Who are running away speaking of uh theodore uh a good bunny
--:-- Pablo Torre: I want to tell you about a bad bunny
--:-- Pablo Torre: I just think it's so funny that the NFL is like suddenly this radically progressive institution because they chose the number one streaming artist in the world
--:-- Pablo Torre: Yeah I know it is kind of wild that for all of the whenever people ask me about the NFL and like you know politics of it this is obviously in the Kaepernick era there was more of a discussion around this
--:-- Pablo Torre: But now that that's like kind of in the rear view I always say like the politics are money man
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like I don't want to tell you guys like this is not there's these aren't stands
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like there were but it is very funny that like this institution which is I don't think perceived as being on one side or the other the culture war has gone back to back with Kendrick Lamar and Bad Bunny
--:-- Pablo Torre: I know
--:-- Pablo Torre: That's like pretty interesting right
--:-- Pablo Torre: But yeah like they're following the money
--:-- Pablo Torre: They're following culture
--:-- Pablo Torre: They're following the international audience especially with this move which is like it's impossible to watch if you actually watch football in the last few years and not recognize that it's like the fight as a priority for the NFL right now with games overseas
--:-- Pablo Torre: It's very telling that they like according to the reporting wanted Taylor Swift and went to Bad Bunny
--:-- Pablo Torre: Like the motive in both is there are demographics we would
