--:-- **Host:** As you've probably heard by now, we've teamed up with BetMGM this season. We'll be using BetMGM lines to make all of our picks, and we'll have special offers for our listeners each week. If you haven't signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code THEATHLETIC, and you'll get a one-year subscription to The Athletic, plus up to a $1,500 first bet offer on your first wager with BetMGM. Here's how it works. Download the BetMGM app and sign up using bonus code THEATHLETIC. Make your first deposit of at least $10, place your first bet on any game, and claim your voucher for a one-year subscription to The Athletic. For new customers only in partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Don't forget, if you haven't signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code THEATHLETIC and you'll get a one-year subscription to The Athletic, plus up to a $1,500 first bet offer on your first wager.
--:-- **Paige DeSorbo:** Hey, I'm Paige DeSorbo and I'm always thinking about underwear.
**Hannah Burner:** I'm Hannah Burner and I'm also thinking about underwear, but I prefer full coverage. I like to call them my granny panties.
**Paige DeSorbo:** Actually, I never think about underwear. That's the magic of Tommy John.
**Hannah Burner:** Same. They're so light and so comfy. And if it's not comfortable, I'm not wearing it. And the bras, soft, supportive, and actually breathable. Yes, Lord knows the girls need to breathe. Also, I need my PJs to breathe and be buttery soft and stretchy enough for my dramatic tossing and turning at night. That's why I live in my Tommy John pajamas. Plus, they're so cute because they fit perfectly. Put yourself on to Tommy John. Upgrade your drawer with Tommy John. Save 25% for a limited time at tommyjohn.com slash comfort. See site for details.
--:-- **Host:** This back-to-school season, one thing is clear. Kids need a way to stay connected. Between pickups, practices, and after-school activities, having a phone is a must. But it shouldn't come at the cost of their mental health. The youth mental health crisis is growing, and social media is a major driver. Teens are spending up to nine hours a day on screens, and studies show a direct link to anxiety, depression, and even suicidal thoughts. That's where Gab comes in. Gab offers kid-safe phones and watches with no internet or social media apps and just the right features for their age. From GPS-enabled watches for younger kids to phones with parent-approved apps for teens, Gab's tech-in-steps approach grows with your child. So this school year, skip the adult phone. Get them Gab, social connection, without the risks. Visit gab.com slash getgab and use the code getgab for a special back-to-school offer. That's g-a-b-b dot com slash getgab. Gab. Tech in steps. Independence for them. Peace of mind for parents.
--:-- **Pablo Torre:** Okay, so hello. It is me, Pablo, entering, invading even your ears because I have done something I have not done before, which is take the advice of someone who once told me that if people wish to support you financially, your journalism, your very strange future of journalism, meaning your newsroom, your ambitions, your desire to investigate things people don't want you to investigate, you should let them. And so I am. On Substack, my newsletter, at www.pablo.show, we'll put a link in the show notes of this episode, I have turned on paid subscriptions. And if you didn't know I have a Substack, guess what? It's free. And that's still there for you. And it's worth it. But the paid subscribers who support this show and us will get legitimately cool, personalized benefits to come. We will make it worth your while. We are figuring out here at PTFO our post-DraftKings future. And, you know, more good news on that front, I hope, to come. But in the meantime, pablo.show is where you sign up. Click the link in the show notes. Help support us, please. Thank you, thank you, thank you on that front. And this, this episode today is a hand-picked episode from deep inside the PTFO vault that we sincerely hope you enjoy. Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. In January of this year, I took Ron's ashes of skydiving. Right after this ad.
--:-- **Host:** So this is going to be a local news story at first, and I promise that as with every store we have Dave Fleming do for us. Thank you for being here, by the way.
**Dave Fleming:** My pleasure. It gets big and grandiose and cosmic and profound and stupid and smart and all of that. But this is in the tradition of your study of fandom that began arguably on Death Row in Texas. Our episode last year, which was singular in the genre. But this is ridiculous in its own right. This is part of my goth period, I think. Yes. It's Denver. It's a couple years ago. And it's a news story that starts like this. Interesting story here. Denver 7's Christian Lopez spoke to a man who spread his friend's ashes on the Avs' home ice just as the Zamboni was driving by. I'm going to laugh in ways that I think will be redeemed at some point, but who is this guy? So this particular fan, his name is Ryan Clark. And this is the story about Ryan Clark and his best buddy, Kyle Stark. And they were friends for more than a decade. They met at work. Kyle ended up being the best man at Ryan's wedding. And the main thing that they bonded over over the years was their deep love of the Colorado avalanche. And it involved sort of like splitting season tickets. It involved if Kyle couldn't watch a game, he would call Ryan who would put his phone up to the TV and FaceTime the game to him. There's a stepbrothers feel here of like guys who just instantly became best friends over the Colorado avalanche. Right, down to what feels like a climactic pratfall or would-be pratfall. But of course because we are a show based on journalism you got to know Ryan yourself yes we ended up talking to him he had lost his laptop and he had borrowed a phone and he was on lunch break okay so where are you today right now uh currently out in benny colorado like a job site or something yeah we were working in uh the elizabeth school district so this is just a little bit north of that right now at a gas station privilege do we have a limited amount of time this whole story just started to just sort of pour out of of ryan um from the front seat of his car right the reception terrible yeah the the sentiment crystal clear we both we were avalanche season ticket holders together so thoroughbred fans through and through um him more so than myself i mean this dude's coffee table in his living room was a uh hockey rink that resembled the pepsi center back when it was that before excuse me all arena um and just die hard one of the best guys i know miss him dearly if he had the choice whether to breathe air or watch the avalanche play hockey he's gonna suffocate you know what i'm saying And he's going to watch the game. Well, that didn't disappoint, right? That's exactly as we advertised. I just love that he's recording from like half an inch away from his face. Yeah. But you know what's funny is immediately, the minute he mentions Kyle's name, you can see the emotions start to bubble up. Yes. They had been best friends for almost a dozen years when after a seizure, Kyle died in 2021. Suddenly, even speaking years later, it's still very emotional and hard for Ryan to think about. It's hard to talk and not get emotional, so try not to do, because I'm it. But yeah, all around great individual, very caring, very loving, way too young, passed away at 32, so way too young. But in terms of the thing that got Ryan on the news, him spreading Kyle's ashes on the ice inside their favorite building in the world, I imagine there are some liability concerns, perhaps even criminal fears when it comes to just what might happen to you if you try to do that. You're not the only one who thinks that way, right? Because Ryan and Kyle's family, they set aside bail money. So they got Kyle's ashes into a Ziploc bag. They got tickets to a game and they sort of snuck Kyle in. Yeah, January 8th, 2022, the Avalanche are hosting the Toronto Maple Leafs. And it's Operation Kyle. In between periods, he saw the Zamboni come out. And so he worked his way all the way down to the glass next to the visitor's bench. Basically put one foot up on an armrest of a seat, a front row seat. The other foot teetering on the edge of the boards. A family member of Kyle's is like holding Ryan, all 340 pounds of Ryan, teetering on the boards, supporting him from the backside. This is not quite subtle. Then he gets the Ziploc bag, gets it up to the top of the glass, and then deposits Kyle onto the ice where their beloved avalanche play. Until the Zamboni. And I just want to make this clear. What about the machine that cleans the ice? If a hockey fan knows how a Zamboni works, it was kind of genius because it swept up Kyle and repurposed him into the ice. So now Kyle was literally a part of the entire surface in Colorado. He was integrated. I mean, yeah. Into the playing surface. I mean, honestly, from one hockey fan to another, tip of the cap to Ryan. There are diehard fans, and then there are diehard fans. Yes. But what happens after this sequence of events? Like, what happens to Ryan? Well, when a 300-pound man deposits a strange substance over the boards at a hockey arena, it tends to get people's attention. Instantly, an usher was kind of like, what'd you just do? What was that? I came down and it took less than I'd say, I'd say not even a full minute before somebody, one of the little younger Usher kids came over and was like, hey, so what was that? He didn't lie. He didn't run. That's when I explained to him what it was and who it was. He just kind of said, that was my best friend. He's like, and I just put him on the ice. And so they escorted him out of the seats and into the arena where he was informed he wasn't going to be arrested, but he was definitely going to be banned from the arena. For how long? Well, indefinitely at that point, it ended up being for the rest of the season. Man. And so there is cruelty in that punishment. Right. I mean, it's the opposite of what, of course, you're trying to accomplish here. You're trying to stay in the building with your friend. The cops, the usher, everybody associated with the team and especially all the fans were kind of like, that's the coolest thing I've ever seen. But publicly, you can't do this. Right. But after Ryan is escorted out of the building and he is banned for the rest of the season and he's watching these games from home where he is forced to be, what is going through his mind No regrets I did what I needed to do Every time I turn that TV on to watch a game there he is You know regardless Just when they're in that, when I see somebody smash somebody up, the boards over there, I'm just like, you got a first-hand few, buddy. There you go. Then it becomes a little bit of sadness. There's joy mixed in with sadness because it's like, when I die, well, Kyle's gone. I'm Kyle's best friend. I'm like sitting there going, who's going to be that person that can do it for me? And the thing that makes Ryan's story a story for us in this special way is that it becomes very clear, Phlegm, as we assign you to look into this story. While Ryan Clark is still searching for his own caretaker in this regard, there are so many other Ryan Clarks. There is an avalanche of ashes coming as it were to your favorite sports arena your favorite field your favorite racetrack it's coming this trend is happening as we speak Fall is planting season, and I wonder if you knew that many plants and trees actually do better when planted this time of year. But you gotta know where to start, and that is why I love fastgrowingtrees.com. Doesn't matter if you live in the sunny south or if the air is getting chilly wherever you are, their plant experts can help you find the perfect fit for your space. And with their Alive and Thrive guarantee, you can be sure that your plants will arrive happy and healthy. So, for instance, I live in New York City, and so plants are just a legitimately huge part of what keeps me sane day to day. The parks, yes, are great, but when you get home to your apartment, it can feel otherwise pretty commercial. And so that is why I fill my apartment with plants. And I mean this. I have dozens, dozens of plants in my home with more on the way, thanks to fast-growing trees. I actually just placed my first order with them, and it could not have been more of a breeze. Planting a tree is not that hard, despite what some superstars might have you thinking. And with over 6,000 plants to choose from that fit any space from indoor plants to fruit trees to full-size privacy trees and more, Fast Growing Trees has you covered. They also make it super easy to find what works for you, no matter your experience level. Their website has all the information you need, and every plant comes with instructions and tips on how to best care for your new plant With a full resource center and a growing zone finder and plant experts ready to help you, you will know exactly what will thrive in your backyard. And this fall, they have the best deals for your yard with up to half off on select plants and other deals. Listeners to our show get 15% off their first purchase when using code PTFO at checkout. That is 15% off at FastGrowingTrees.com using the code PTFO at checkout. Now is the perfect time to plant. Use PTFO to save today. Offer is valid for a limited time. Terms and conditions may apply. Check out the link below in the show notes and support the show.
--:-- **Host:** Hey, I'm Paige DeSorbo and I'm always thinking about underwear. I'm Hannah Burner and I'm also thinking about underwear, but I prefer full coverage. I like to call them my granny panties. Actually, I never think about underwear. That's the magic of Tommy John. Same. They're so light and so comfy. And if it's not comfortable, I'm not wearing it. And the bras, soft, supportive, and actually breathable. Yes, Lord knows the girls need to breathe. Also, I need my PJs to breathe and be buttery soft and stretchy enough for my dramatic tossing and turning at night. That's why I live in my Tommy John pajamas. Plus, they're so cute because they fit perfectly. Put yourself on to Tommy John. Upgrade your drawer with Tommy John. Save 25% for a limited time at TommyJohn.com slash comfort. See site for details.
--:-- **Host:** This back-to-school season, one thing is clear. Kids need a way to stay connected. Between pickups, practices, and after-school activities, having a phone is a must. But it shouldn't come at the cost of their mental health. The youth mental health crisis is growing, and social media is a major driver. Teens are spending up to nine hours a day on screens, and studies show a direct link to anxiety, depression, and even suicidal thoughts. That's where Gab comes in. Gab offers kid-safe phones and watches with no internet or social media apps and just the right features for their age. From GPS-enabled watches for younger kids to phones with parent-approved apps for teens, Gab's tech-in-steps approach grows with your child. So this school year, skip the adult phone. Get them Gab, social connection, without the risks. Visit gab.com slash getgab and use the code getgab for a special back-to-school offer. That's g-a-b-b dot com slash getgab. Gab. Tech in steps. Independence for them. Peace of mind for parents.
--:-- **Pablo Torre:** Okay, so hello. It is me, Pablo, entering, invading even your ears because I have done something I have not done before, which is take the advice of someone who once told me that if people wish to support you financially, your journalism, your very strange future of journalism, meaning your newsroom, your ambitions, your desire to investigate things people don't want you to investigate, you should let them. And so I am. On Substack, my newsletter, at www.pablo.show, we'll put a link in the show notes of this episode, I have turned on paid subscriptions. And if you didn't know I have a Substack, guess what? It's free. And that's still there for you. And it's worth it. But the paid subscribers who support this show and us will get legitimately cool, personalized benefits to come. We will make it worth your while. We are figuring out here at PTFO our post-DraftKings future. And, you know, more good news on that front, I hope, to come. But in the meantime, pablo.show is where you sign up. Click the link in the show notes. Help support us, please. Thank you, thank you, thank you on that front. And this, this episode today is a hand-picked episode from deep inside the PTFO vault that we sincerely hope you enjoy. Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. In January of this year, I took Ron's ashes of skydiving. Right after this ad.
--:-- **Host:** So this is going to be a local news story at first, and I promise that as with every store we have Dave Fleming do for us. Thank you for being here, by the way.
**Dave Fleming:** My pleasure. It gets big and grandiose and cosmic and profound and stupid and smart and all of that. But this is in the tradition of your study of fandom that began arguably on Death Row in Texas. Our episode last year, which was singular in the genre. But this is ridiculous in its own right. This is part of my goth period, I think. Yes. It's Denver. It's a couple years ago. And it's a news story that starts like this. Interesting story here. Denver 7's Christian Lopez spoke to a man who spread his friend's ashes on the Avs' home ice just as the Zamboni was driving by. I'm going to laugh in ways that I think will be redeemed at some point, but who is this guy? So this particular fan, his name is Ryan Clark. And this is the story about Ryan Clark and his best buddy, Kyle Stark. And they were friends for more than a decade. They met at work. Kyle ended up being the best man at Ryan's wedding. And the main thing that they bonded over over the years was their deep love of the Colorado avalanche. And it involved sort of like splitting season tickets. It involved if Kyle couldn't watch a game, he would call Ryan who would put his phone up to the TV and FaceTime the game to him. There's a stepbrothers feel here of like guys who just instantly became best friends over the Colorado avalanche. Right, down to what feels like a climactic pratfall or would-be pratfall. But of course because we are a show based on journalism you got to know Ryan yourself yes we ended up talking to him he had lost his laptop and he had borrowed a phone and he was on lunch break okay so where are you today right now uh currently out in benny colorado like a job site or something yeah we were working in uh the elizabeth school district so this is just a little bit north of that right now at a gas station privilege do we have a limited amount of time this whole story just started to just sort of pour out of of ryan um from the front seat of his car right the reception terrible yeah the the sentiment crystal clear we both we were avalanche season ticket holders together so thoroughbred fans through and through um him more so than myself i mean this dude's coffee table in his living room was a uh hockey rink that resembled the pepsi center back when it was that before excuse me all arena um and just die hard one of the best guys i know miss him dearly if he had the choice whether to breathe air or watch the avalanche play hockey he's gonna suffocate you know what i'm saying And he's going to watch the game. Well, that didn't disappoint, right? That's exactly as we advertised. I just love that he's recording from like half an inch away from his face. Yeah. But you know what's funny is immediately, the minute he mentions Kyle's name, you can see the emotions start to bubble up. Yes. They had been best friends for almost a dozen years when after a seizure, Kyle died in 2021. Suddenly, even speaking years later, it's still very emotional and hard for Ryan to think about. It's hard to talk and not get emotional, so try not to do, because I'm it. But yeah, all around great individual, very caring, very loving, way too young, passed away at 32, so way too young. But in terms of the thing that got Ryan on the news, him spreading Kyle's ashes on the ice inside their favorite building in the world, I imagine there are some liability concerns, perhaps even criminal fears when it comes to just what might happen to you if you try to do that. You're not the only one who thinks that way, right? Because Ryan and Kyle's family, they set aside bail money. So they got Kyle's ashes into a Ziploc bag. They got tickets to a game and they sort of snuck Kyle in. Yeah, January 8th, 2022, the Avalanche are hosting the Toronto Maple Leafs. And it's Operation Kyle. In between periods, he saw the Zamboni come out. And so he worked his way all the way down to the glass next to the visitor's bench. Basically put one foot up on an armrest of a seat, a front row seat. The other foot teetering on the edge of the boards. A family member of Kyle's is like holding Ryan, all 340 pounds of Ryan, teetering on the boards, supporting him from the backside. This is not quite subtle. Then he gets the Ziploc bag, gets it up to the top of the glass, and then deposits Kyle onto the ice where their beloved avalanche play. Until the Zamboni. And I just want to make this clear. What about the machine that cleans the ice? If a hockey fan knows how a Zamboni works, it was kind of genius because it swept up Kyle and repurposed him into the ice. So now Kyle was literally a part of the entire surface in Colorado. He was integrated. I mean, yeah. Into the playing surface. I mean, honestly, from one hockey fan to another, tip of the cap to Ryan. There are diehard fans, and then there are diehard fans. Yes. But what happens after this sequence of events? Like, what happens to Ryan? Well, when a 300-pound man deposits a strange substance over the boards at a hockey arena, it tends to get people's attention. Instantly, an usher was kind of like, what'd you just do? What was that? I came down and it took less than I'd say, I'd say not even a full minute before somebody, one of the little younger Usher kids came over and was like, hey, so what was that? He didn't lie. He didn't run. That's when I explained to him what it was and who it was. He just kind of said, that was my best friend. He's like, and I just put him on the ice. And so they escorted him out of the seats and into the arena where he was informed he wasn't going to be arrested, but he was definitely going to be banned from the arena. For how long? Well, indefinitely at that point, it ended up being for the rest of the season. Man. And so there is cruelty in that punishment. Right. I mean, it's the opposite of what, of course, you're trying to accomplish here. You're trying to stay in the building with your friend. The cops, the usher, everybody associated with the team and especially all the fans were kind of like, that's the coolest thing I've ever seen. But publicly, you can't do this. Right. But after Ryan is escorted out of the building and he is banned for the rest of the season and he's watching these games from home where he is forced to be, what is going through his mind No regrets I did what I needed to do Every time I turn that TV on to watch a game there he is You know regardless Just when they're in that, when I see somebody smash somebody up, the boards over there, I'm just like, you got a first-hand few, buddy. There you go. Then it becomes a little bit of sadness. There's joy mixed in with sadness because it's like, when I die, well, Kyle's gone. I'm Kyle's best friend. I'm like sitting there going, who's going to be that person that can do it for me? And the thing that makes Ryan's story a story for us in this special way is that it becomes very clear, Phlegm, as we assign you to look into this story. While Ryan Clark is still searching for his own caretaker in this regard, there are so many other Ryan Clarks. There is an avalanche of ashes coming as it were to your favorite sports arena your favorite field your favorite racetrack it's coming this trend is happening as we speak Fall is planting season, and I wonder if you knew that many plants and trees actually do better when planted this time of year. But you gotta know where to start, and that is why I love fastgrowingtrees.com. Doesn't matter if you live in the sunny south or if the air is getting chilly wherever you are, their plant experts can help you find the perfect fit for your space. And with their Alive and Thrive guarantee, you can be sure that your plants will arrive happy and healthy. So, for instance, I live in New York City, and so plants are just a legitimately huge part of what keeps me sane day to day. The parks, yes, are great, but when you get home to your apartment, it can feel otherwise pretty commercial. And so that is why I fill my apartment with plants. And I mean this. I have dozens, dozens of plants in my home with more on the way, thanks to fast-growing trees. I actually just placed my first order with them, and it could not have been more of a breeze. Planting a tree is not that hard, despite what some superstars might have you thinking. And with over 6,000 plants to choose from that fit any space from indoor plants to fruit trees to full-size privacy trees and more, Fast Growing Trees has you covered. They also make it super easy to find what works for you, no matter your experience level. Their website has all the information you need, and every plant comes with instructions and tips on how to best care for your new plant With a full resource center and a growing zone finder and plant experts ready to help you, you will know exactly what will thrive in your backyard. And this fall, they have the best deals for your yard with up to half off on select plants and other deals. Listeners to our show get 15% off their first purchase when using code PTFO at checkout. That is 15% off at FastGrowingTrees.com using the code PTFO at checkout. Now is the perfect time to plant. Use PTFO to save today. Offer is valid for a limited time. Terms and conditions may apply. Check out the link below in the show notes and support the show.
--:-- **Host:** Hey, I'm Paige DeSorbo and I'm always thinking about underwear. I'm Hannah Burner and I'm also thinking about underwear, but I prefer full coverage. I like to call them my granny panties. Actually, I never think about underwear. That's the magic of Tommy John. Same. They're so light and so comfy. And if it's not comfortable, I'm not wearing it. And the bras, soft, supportive, and actually breathable. Yes, Lord knows the girls need to breathe. Also, I need my PJs to breathe and be buttery soft and stretchy enough for my dramatic tossing and turning at night. That's why I live in my Tommy John pajamas. Plus, they're so cute because they fit perfectly. Put yourself on to Tommy John. Upgrade your drawer with Tommy John. Save 25% for a limited time at TommyJohn.com slash comfort. See site for details.
--:-- **Host:** This back-to-school season, one thing is clear. Kids need a way to stay connected. Between pickups, practices, and after-school activities, having a phone is a must. But it shouldn't come at the cost of their mental health. The youth mental health crisis is growing, and social media is a major driver. Teens are spending up to nine hours a day on screens, and studies show a direct link to anxiety, depression, and even suicidal thoughts. That's where Gab comes in. Gab offers kid-safe phones and watches with no internet or social media apps and just the right features for their age. From GPS-enabled watches for younger kids to phones with parent-approved apps for teens, Gab's tech-in-steps approach grows with your child. So this school year, skip the adult phone. Get them Gab, social connection, without the risks. Visit gab.com slash getgab and use the code getgab for a special back-to-school offer. That's g-a-b-b dot com slash getgab. Gab. Tech in steps. Independence for them. Peace of mind for parents.
--:-- **Pablo Torre:** Okay, so hello. It is me, Pablo, entering, invading even your ears because I have done something I have not done before, which is take the advice of someone who once told me that if people wish to support you financially, your journalism, your very strange future of journalism, meaning your newsroom, your ambitions, your desire to investigate things people don't want you to investigate, you should let them. And so I am. On Substack, my newsletter, at www.pablo.show, we'll put a link in the show notes of this episode, I have turned on paid subscriptions. And if you didn't know I have a Substack, guess what? It's free. And that's still there for you. And it's worth it. But the paid subscribers who support this show and us will get legitimately cool, personalized benefits to come. We will make it worth your while. We are figuring out here at PTFO our post-DraftKings future. And, you know, more good news on that front, I hope, to come. But in the meantime, pablo.show is where you sign up. Click the link in the show notes. Help support us, please. Thank you, thank you, thank you on that front. And this, this episode today is a hand-picked episode from deep inside the PTFO vault that we sincerely hope you enjoy. Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. In January of this year, I took Ron's ashes of skydiving. Right after this ad.
--:-- **Host:** So this is going to be a local news story at first, and I promise that as with every store we have Dave Fleming do for us. Thank you for being here, by the way.
**Dave Fleming:** My pleasure. It gets big and grandiose and cosmic and profound and stupid and smart and all of that. But this is in the tradition of your study of fandom that began arguably on Death Row in Texas. Our episode last year, which was singular in the genre. But this is ridiculous in its own right. This is part of my goth period, I think. Yes. It's Denver. It's a couple years ago. And it's a news story that starts like this. Interesting story here. Denver 7's Christian Lopez spoke to a man who spread his friend's ashes on the Avs' home ice just as the Zamboni was driving by. I'm going to laugh in ways that I think will be redeemed at some point, but who is this guy? So this particular fan, his name is Ryan Clark. And this is the story about Ryan Clark and his best buddy, Kyle Stark. And they were friends for more than a decade. They met at work. Kyle ended up being the best man at Ryan's wedding. And the main thing that they bonded over over the years was their deep love of the Colorado avalanche. And it involved sort of like splitting season tickets. It involved if Kyle couldn't watch a game, he would call Ryan who would put his phone up to the TV and FaceTime the game to him. There's a stepbrothers feel here of like guys who just instantly became best friends over the Colorado avalanche. Right, down to what feels like a climactic pratfall or would-be pratfall. But of course because we are a show based on journalism you got to know Ryan yourself yes we ended up talking to him he had lost his laptop and he had borrowed a phone and he was on lunch break okay so where are you today right now uh currently out in benny colorado like a job site or something yeah we were working in uh the elizabeth school district so this is just a little bit north of that right now at a gas station privilege do we have a limited amount of time this whole story just started to just sort of pour out of of ryan um from the front seat of his car right the reception terrible yeah the the sentiment crystal clear we both we were avalanche season ticket holders together so thoroughbred fans through and through um him more so than myself i mean this dude's coffee table in his living room was a uh hockey rink that resembled the pepsi center back when it was that before excuse me all arena um and just die hard one of the best guys i know miss him dearly if he had the choice whether to breathe air or watch the avalanche play hockey he's gonna suffocate you know what i'm saying And he's going to watch the game. Well, that didn't
