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--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: The last day that Qin Gang, China's then foreign minister, was seen in public was on June 25th of last year. It was a hot, humid day in Beijing.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: And according to his official schedule, Qin spent some of that day carrying out his foreign minister duties as usual. Mostly, this meant meeting other foreign ministers.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: We know from Qin Gang's official schedule that he met with Sri Lanka's foreign minister. That's Chief China Correspondent Ling Ling Wei.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Qin and the Sri Lankan foreign minister discussed China's Belt and Road Initiative. They shook hands and snapped a picture in front of their country's flags.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: We know he met with the Vietnamese foreign minister and that they talked about the Vietnamese prime minister's visit to China. Another handshake, another picture, in front of another set of flags.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: And Qinggang also met with a representative from Russia, one of China's key partners. Russia's deputy foreign minister, Andrei Rudenko, was in town that day.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: A photo from the day shows Chin and Rudenko striding out of a building mid-conversation. Chin is tall with rimless glasses. He looks relaxed and confident.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: And he had reason to be. Chin was foreign minister, the country's top diplomat. He was a member of the upper echelon of the political elite, and he had the backing of China's powerful leader, Xi Jinping.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Qin had risen high and was expected to keep rising. But instead, after that day in June, Qin disappeared.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: All of a sudden, you know, people kind of realized they hadn't seen Chinggong on TV, on state media reports, anywhere. He just sort of like vanished all of a sudden from public view.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: He even skipped some meetings, very important international meetings. So that basically triggered a lot of speculation, especially on social media, about his whereabouts, what had happened to him.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Online, people were asking, where is Qin Gang? Foreign journalists in Beijing began pressing China's foreign ministry for answers.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Does the foreign ministry have any updates on Qin Gang and when he will return to duties? Is he the subject of a corruption probe?
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: The foreign ministry didn't provide any clear explanation. And now, over a year after Qin Gang vanished, he still hasn't been seen in public.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: We asked the foreign ministry about Qin's whereabouts and the circumstances of his disappearance, and they had no comment.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: When Qin Gang disappeared, do you remember what your reaction was?
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: I was really shocked. This is a guy who was so trusted by Xi Jinping, so close to him. What could he have done wrong?
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: That was my biggest question. What the heck did he do? Such a swift fall of a protege of Xi Jinping
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Ling Ling says it stood out as unusual. She couldn't explain it. So she started digging.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Over the last year, she's spoken to dozens of people.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Hey, guys. I'm about to go into a meeting.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: And she's been reporting back to us along the way.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: I do think we're really on the right track here. And obviously the story is extremely sensitive and we want to exercise extreme caution to make sure...
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: I've been a reporter for the journal for 16 years. This really has been the hardest nut to crack so far.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: This story is about Qin Gang, a Chinese political star whose rise was abruptly cut short. But it's also a story about the man who elevated him in the first place. The man who has ruled China with an iron fist for over a decade, Xi Jinping.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: And what we've discovered gives us a peek behind the veil of one of the most opaque and powerful governments in the world.
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--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: From The Journal, I'm Kate Leinbaugh, and this is The Missing Minister. A three-part investigation into the mysterious disappearance of China's foreign minister.
--:-- Episode 1, The Vanishing of Qinggang.
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--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: When Qinggang vanished, he was at the peak of his power. At 57, he was one of China's youngest ever foreign ministers.
--:-- Sarah Lubman: What I remember about Qinggang was, first of all, I remember him as tall, but I'm pretty short, so that's relative.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Sarah Lubman was a reporter in China back in the late 80s and early 90s. She worked at an American news agency called UPI, covering, among other things, the aftermath of the Tiananmen Square crackdown.
--:-- Sarah Lubman: It was at UPI that Sarah got to know the future foreign minister. Chin was in his 20s then, a low-level government worker assigned to UPI.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: His job was to help journalists like Sarah navigate China to translate book trips and monitor Chinese news.
--:-- Sarah Lubman: I do remember him as a very kind of lanky guy. I also remember him as kind of arrogant.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: So he had not a chip on his shoulder, but there was just something about his manner that suggested that this job was beneath him, which he may have been because his English was really good.
--:-- Sarah Lubman: He was clearly very smart. He was clearly very ambitious.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Sarah and Qin worked together in a converted apartment in one of Beijing's diplomatic compounds.
--:-- Sarah Lubman: It was a long kind of railroad apartment, right, with two rooms next to each other.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: And Qin Gang would sit in one room and the correspondents were in the other room where all the computer monitors were.
--:-- Sarah Lubman: And when we wanted to watch the news, we would go into that next room.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: But Sarah says translators like Chin weren't just there to be helpful. They were also there to keep an eye on UPI's journalists.
--:-- Sarah Lubman: We just assumed that they were reporting back on what we were doing.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Really?
--:-- Sarah Lubman: Yeah. I mean, that was just assumed. Then look, they were government assigned, and I'm sure that they were there to support us, but also to keep tabs on us, I have no doubt.
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--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: The one concrete memory I have of working with him is of watching a newscast with him, and a phrase came up that I didn't know.
--:-- Sarah Lubman: And so I turned to him to say, hey, you know, can you tell me what they just said?
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: And he was kind of tipped back in his chair, you know? I mean, he was not leaning forward, intently listening to the news.
--:-- Sarah Lubman: He was kind of tipped back in his chair like, yeah, I can't believe I need to do this.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: But when I turned to him and said, hey, what did they say?
--:-- Sarah Lubman: He snapped to attention. He tipped his chair back forward and told me immediately what they'd said.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: So clearly, even when he was just half listening, he got the sense this was a job he could do in his sleep.
--:-- Sarah Lubman: Sarah realized, even then, that Qin was operating below his potential, that given the chance, he could go far.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: She just didn't realize how far.
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--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: When he became foreign minister, a friend of mine who'd been a reporter in China called me and said, do you remember Xin Gong from the UPI Bureau?
--:-- Sarah Lubman: And I said, yeah. And he said, that's the foreign minister.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: And I was just flabbergasted that that same kind of gangly, kind of cocky kid was now foreign minister.
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--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: There's an expectation about how you rise through the Chinese political ranks. And it's not generally a fast process. You're supposed to put in your time and move up wrong by wrong.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: That's how most of Qin's career at the foreign ministry went. He did various stints at the Chinese embassy in London, and he worked as a foreign ministry spokesperson in Beijing, where he responded to reporters' questions with scripted talking points.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: But then, something happened that would put Qin on the fast track.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: He got a new job and a new boss, one who did things differently.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: In 2012, Xi Jinping became General Secretary of the Communist Party, and the following year, President of China.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Xi Jinping is the most powerful, the most forceful Chinese leader in recent decades.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Ever since he came to power in late 2012, Xi Jinping basically has embarked on this never-ending effort to centralize power into his own hands.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Xi Jinping basically made himself the chairman of everything in China.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Soon after Xi came to power, Qin landed a job that would put him in close proximity to Xi.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: In 2014, Chin became Xi's chief of protocol at the foreign ministry.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Protocol shouldn't be confused with sort of which fork to use at dinner and whether the fish knife goes on the left or the right of the butter knife.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: It's organizing the movements of the leaders and the moving parts of a visit.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: That's Danny Russell. He was a diplomat at the State Department during the Obama administration.
--:-- Danny Russell: And he worked with Chin a few times when Chin was chief of protocol.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Like in 2015, when Chin accompanied Xi on his first official visit to the U.S.
--:-- Danny Russell: I do have a recollection of Qinggang and the Chinese team being really passionate and angst-ridden over the possibility that there could be a protest that would, you know, impinge on the eyeballs of Xi Jinping, of the leader.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: I think there was almost a sense of terror that if something as embarrassing and politically shameful as that were to occur, that they were going down with the ship.
--:-- Danny Russell: Wow.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Another person familiar with the rough and tumble of official visits is former U.S. diplomat Rick Waters.
--:-- Rick Waters: These visits are, you know, traumatic for those of us who have to organize them.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: The U.S. team rolls in heavy with a few dozen planes, and your carefully choreographed effort immediately falls apart at first contact with reality.
--:-- Rick Waters: Rick was working at the State Department when tensions with China were ratcheting up during the Trump administration.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: He helped organize President Trump's visit to Beijing in 2017.
--:-- Rick Waters: And there was one moment during that visit that stuck with him.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: It happened when Chinese security stopped a U.S. military aide from entering a meeting room.
--:-- Rick Waters: You know, we were in the Great Hall of the People for the meeting with Xi Jinping, and the security details got into a giant fistfight right outside the meeting room.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: What?
--:-- Rick Waters: Yeah. And, you know, at the time, there was a mid-level foreign ministry official named Qin Gong, and he and I were the only ones in the room, and we were trying to pull these people off of each other.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: They were in a full-blown brawl 10 feet outside the meeting room where Xi and Trump were together.
--:-- Rick Waters: And on that visit, did you notice anything about how Chin handled that moment and sort of the tensions between Trump and Xi at the time?
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Well, he didn't manage the policy, right? He was often not in the innermost room when they were talking about policy either.
--:-- Rick Waters: But, you know, what I saw is that the parts of the system that organized visits, they had a certain deference to him.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: And I think it's because they knew that he was an up-and-comer in the system and someone to whom they needed to be responsive because he was clearly empowered by Xi's office to manage what was a very important event for them at the time.
--:-- Rick Waters: Chin wasn't in the room where the big policy decisions were being made. Not yet.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: But as chief of protocol he earned Xi's trust.
--:-- Rick Waters: And with Xi's backing, he would be catapulted to the highest echelons of China's political system. And on to the global stage.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: That's next.
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--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: In 2021, Chingang arrived in Washington, D.C. to start a new job.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: It's a great honor for me to be ambassador of the People's Republic of China to the United States of America.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Standing between Chinese and American flags, Qin made his first remarks as China's new man in D.C.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: I firmly believe that the door of China-U.S. relations, which is already open, cannot and should not be closed.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: This is the trend of the world, the call of the times, and the will of the people.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: For Qin, it was an important promotion.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Just three years earlier, he'd been chief of protocol at the foreign ministry. Now, he was Beijing's voice in Washington.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: That appointment in 2021 was quite a surprise decision.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: That's our colleague Ling Ling again.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Qinggang didn't have much of a U.S. experience.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: And the thinking was, based on officials familiar with the matter, The reason why Xi Jinping picked him for such an important job was mostly because Xi Jinping really trusted him.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: He believed that Qin Gang would be able to present China's story well in Washington.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: But to present that story, Qin Gang had to build relationships in D.C. And that was tough going.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: He was very unpopular among the policy people and even quite a few of the business leaders.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Here's Danny, one of the former diplomats we heard from earlier.
--:-- Danny Russell: I think they found him arrogant, even impolite, and at other times highly formulaic.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: I don't know how he was dealing with his in-government counterparts, in part because they refused to meet with him for the better part of a year while he was in Washington.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: That's another story. What? Why did they refuse to meet with him?
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: I may be putting it a little bit strongly, but, you know, he arrived during a very chilly moment in U.S.-China relations.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: At that time, President Biden had recently come into the White House.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: But the change in administration didn't change much about the U.S.-China relationship.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: The two countries were still at odds over a long list of issues. Taiwan, trade, espionage.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: And the disputes were getting personal.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: The new U.S. ambassador to China, Nicholas Burns, was getting beastly treatment by the Chinese who just shut him out mercilessly.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: And I think in some circles there was certainly a view that said, you know what, let's give them a taste of their own medicine.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: A little quid pro quo. Right. Try a little quid pro quo.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Here's some reciprocity for you, buddy.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: A State Department spokesperson said Ambassador Burns has had good access to Chinese officials during his tenure, but that there have been times when Chinese officials have refused to meet with him.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Qin was trying to find his footing in the D.C. scene.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: But even amongst his colleagues, Qin wasn't always popular.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: He was known as a very strict manager, very hands-on manager.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: You know, he would publicly scold an underling for very little mistakes.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: So that kind of style earned him some resentment from others within the foreign ministry.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: And it was also well known that he has had some women issues.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Qin was married and he had a son.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: But according to Lingling's sources, Qin also had affairs.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: You know, that's what we have heard from officials back in China.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: But at least, you know, back then, as long as you had the top leaders' trust, all those issues were negligible.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: It didn't matter you had women issues or other issues.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: As long as you had the top leader's trust, you're fine.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Qin did have Xi's trust.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: So much so that at the end of 2022, less than two years into Qin's ambassadorship, Xi handed him another promotion, foreign minister, one of China's most important political posts.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: And this is the fun part. Most of the time when he was in D.C., he couldn't even get meetings with Biden officials.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Yeah. So after the promotion, people were like calling him and trying to meet with him.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: His lonely Washington life was suddenly transformed with people returning his phone calls.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Exactly. Exactly.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: That appointment was truly mind-boggling to me.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: I was kind of stunned.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: And then I think many of my friends and counterparts in the Chinese foreign ministry were similarly surprised
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: This was a case where Xi Jinping just reached into the system and plucked a loyal aide, some might say a toady, not out of obscurity, but certainly disrupted the sort of natural order, the protocol order in terms of age and service, seniority.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: In fact, Ling Ling's reporting shows Qin wasn't the foreign ministry's first pick for the job.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: He wasn't even their second or third pick.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Based on reporting, the foreign policy establishment in China recommended three names to the top leader, Xi Jinping, you know, who should be the next foreign minister.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Qin Gang wasn't one of them.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: So in the end, it was really Xi Jinping himself who decided to name him foreign minister.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: So Xi gave him the job.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Then, a few months later, Xi tacked on yet another fancy title.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: He made Qin not just foreign minister, but state counselor. basically elevating Qin to a senior position in his cabinet.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Qin's predecessor had waited five years before getting that promotion.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: And that was really extraordinary.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: What did that promotion say to you?
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: What it told me is that China has now entered an imperial era in which the leader, call him general secretary, call him president, and call him emperor, doesn't really matter.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: The singular leader now makes all of these personnel decisions, makes all decisions.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: So I think I took it much less as a story about Qin Gang and much more as a revelation about Xi Jinping.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: So then, it's July of last year. Chin's been foreign minister for about half a year, and people start to notice that he's sort of gone missing.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Initially, the foreign ministry was very silent on questions about his whereabouts.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Then one day in July, the spokesperson at the foreign ministry basically said he was absent for quote-unquote health reasons.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: What did you think of that?
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: In Chinese system, health reasons are often cited for officials who have, you know, basically fallen out of favor or gone into some kind of trouble.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: So the health reason explanations to me did sound like a cover for something else, something more problematic.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: And then, in September of last year, Ling Ling got a scoop.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: She reported that the Chinese government had conducted an investigation into Qin, and senior Chinese officials were briefed on it.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Those high-ranking officials were told that Qin's removal from the foreign minister job was due to, quote, lifestyle issues, which basically is a common party euphemism for sexual misconduct.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: They were specifically told that he had a fair while serving as a Chinese ambassador to the United States.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: And did that explanation make sense to you?
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: It didn't make a lot of sense to me because high-ranking officials in China, they have affairs all the time.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: It's never the reason why someone would get into serious trouble like this.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: There must have been something else. Something else.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: When Ling Ling published her story about Qin's investigation last year, she didn't know what that something else was.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: It was such a difficult story to report out, given the fact that China doesn't have any kind of transparency or accountability to speak of.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Chinese politics are steeped in secrecy.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Even people within the Chinese government might only know parts of Qin's story, the parts the leadership wanted them to know.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: But Ling Ling kept digging.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: And she did have one thread to pull on.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: According to our sources, senior Chinese officials were told that Qin had been investigated because of an affair.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: But not just any affair. They were told that this affair could have compromised China's national security.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: My ears perked up. It was very intriguing.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: What could have a fair possibly compromised China's national security?
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Turns out it all had to do with this one woman, the woman he had an affair with.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Her name is Fu Xiaotian.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Fu Xiaotian, a rising star in her own profession, with friends in high places, who would face a downfall just as mysterious as Chin Gong's.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: That's next time on The Missing Minister.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Listen to episodes two and three now. They're already in your feed.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: The Missing Minister is part of The Journal, which is a co-production of Spotify and The Wall Street Journal.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: I'm your host, Kate Leinbaugh.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: This series was produced by Annie Minoff and Alan Rodriguez Espinosa.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: It was reported by Maria Byrne and Ling Ling Wei.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: It was edited by Maria Byrne.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Mary Mathis is our fact checker.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Sound design and mixing by Griffin Tanner.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Music direction by Nathan Singapak.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Music in this episode by Nathan Singapak and Blue Dot Sessions.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Our theme music is by So Wiley and remixed by Nathan Singapak.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Special thanks to Catherine Brewer, Elena Cherney, Laura Morris, Philana Patterson, Sarah Platt, Heather Rogers, and Aruna Vishwanatha.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Thanks for listening.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Yo, this is important, man.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: My favorite Lululemon shorts, the ones you got me back in the day, I think they're called pace breakers, the ones with all the pockets.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: I just got back from vacation and I left them in my hotel room.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: And dude, I need to replace these shorts.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: I wear them like three times a week.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: Could you send me the link to where you got them?
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Oh, also, my birthday's coming up soon.
--:-- Ling Ling Wei: So anyways, thanks, bro.
--:-- Kate Leinbaugh: Talk soon.
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