The Accidental Matriarch: Friday, January 30th, 2026

Good morning, girlies, it's the toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. Yay for Friday. Hey, Jacqui, how you doing? Good morning, Queen Corgi. Good morning, Popper, Jax. I guess. Yeah, you're my loyal subject. Although you don't seem very loyal. First of all, I'm as loyal. I could not be more loyal as an individual. Although I feel as though you're really only using me for Cub Corgi. Like you love Cub Corgi. That's not true because I loved Queen Corgi long before I ever met Cub Corgi. I didn't meet Cub Corgi till two nights ago. And I've been standing Queen Corgi since October. Yeah, kind of a busy day doing press interviews. Press this, press that. Everybody wanting an interview with Queen Corgi. She's very busy, that quirks. Yeah, but she's really opening up to the press. 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The Great Chili Cook-Offs. hundreds of episodes that's how we keep this maverick lighting on correct so make sure to head over to patreon.com to check out the mass singer bts episode we will be recording later today well let's talk about something let's talk about my botox and my filler because it's been a couple of days and i feel like i feel like i'm loving it i think you look great yeah your lips look great they look great because like they don't even look that changed so what i believe i i heard her talking about it and then i was like watching tiktok and apparently this is what like the procedure if you want to call it that it called It called a kiss You told me that Oh I did Okay So if anybody wants like you love my lips and you want to tell your doctor it called a kiss I guess I do see like your upper lip Yeah they really they only put the needle in the top of my lip like, to lift it a little bit. And then a little Botox under my nose. I feel like my smile has been so less gummy. Like, I'm feeling... Really see your smile? Party. Right? And, like, I can feel my forehead not moving, you know? Ugh, I'm so jealous. I was looking at my forehead today, and I was just counting down another day, counting off the calendar. Right. You're almost there. You know what? I should make an appointment with a, like there was a person you wanted to get an appointment with, but you couldn't get an appointment for a few months. That's when I'll be ready. Yes. I should make the appointment. Where I ended up going. I had the best experience. I highly recommend. I probably will go there. But I'm glad that it worked out the way that it did. But I am in a place to get a great appointment right now. Yeah, you are. But like, you don't know anyone who's like, like you can see me. Like I am. I see you for what you really are. And I know you do. And then you don't see my calls. Which is ugly. I texted you last night. Good call. I had a good call about someone from Traders reminding us of someone we know. It was a good call, right? It was a good call. I wrote a good call. You also made a crazy call offline to me yesterday that I didn't really agree with. What did you say? What did I say? We were sitting on your couch and you said. It was really out there. It was out there. It'll come to us. You made a call about like a celebrity who looks like someone. What were we talking about? We talk about everything. like we cover the gamut of all things okay today's episode is fabulous we've got traitors recap we've got queenie and weenie we've got did you watch tell me lies i did me too oh great maybe we'll make that like a fourth story recap was it the best episode ever because steven was barely in it i was like i'm like why am i enjoying this episode so much like i don't feel that dread that pit he was in it for two seconds of course the seconds that he were in it was like enough to make me want to kill him but there was something that was really oh when he sent the pictures yeah awful That was dreadful. I fucking love Diana. I love her, but she's being an idiot. Yeah, she's lost control. She had a lot of control last season, keeping things from Steven. And this season, she like can't help but like rub his nose in. It's like, girl, you're not out of the woods yet. No. And that was pit inducing. However, if someone like said, I feel like it's going to backfire on him. Because why would a college like someone's ex sent them revenge porn? Like you, you know what I mean? It's a law school and revenge porn is quite literally illegal. So I hope that that does like backfire onto him. There's quite literally nobody on this planet I hate more. Also, I liked the episode so much because it was so much Wrigley and Brie and obsessed Like I could not be more obsessed They make me like I kicking my feet Like obsessed And like Wrigley putting Stephen in his place a number of times But like you could just see like Stephen really happy He has no one to share it with. And he's, like, trying to be happy. And it's, like, he's going to, like, have an equal and opposite reaction when he realized, like, oh, my joy is, like, cruelty. Yeah. And when he was, like, kind of tricking everyone to go out and celebrating him, I was, like, seriously got the biggest ick. Like, could you be a bigger loser? her speaking of ick i got the biggest ick last night from ben okay he was actually getting mad okay so like i told you ruby has a running nose so like this light little cold has been running through our house like you could tell i have a little i'm really fine ben got hit like with a true cold his nose is so stuffed you know when like you can't pronounce like certain vowels and consonants like instead of saying like i'm fine he's like i'm fine you know he was being so nasally in bed last night like we were trying to watch traders we were like getting snacks we did go puff like we ordered some like true fro oh and he was like what do you want and i was just like yucky he was just being like and i was like i need you to stop talking he was like you're being so mean i'm like i'm sorry but if you talk like that and he was like in my ear too being like oh my god yeah no but it was worse than that like i know this is really stuffy and i was like okay get away from me like he was being so icky last night you know what's also icky about it it's like you fought the same thing that he's fighting yeah and ruby spotted and it's like we're all taking him down you're all stronger than you yeah like i've been through this and it's like not that it's not that serious i've been where you are and it's like men used to go to war and now the amount of tissues on now you're getting a worse cold than me oh and then like as i was falling asleep i was on in that phase of sleep where i'm just about like i'm la la land yeah but i call it what do i hear like blowing his own and i'm like you are going to have to do that elsewhere and then this morning he was like i don't know if you heard but like i left the room last night in the middle of the night to go blow my nose. I'm like, well, the middle of the night is like, I probably would have slept through it. But right at like, you know, 1047 is when you need to leave the room. It was just kind of a crazy night in my house. That is crazy. It's a crazy night in my house. Max is like sleeping like a newborn again, like eating every three hours. That's just, I don't, it could just be like a, it could just be like a spurt. So we'll see because we like have been trying to get him to sleep in the crib, but might have to be go, go back to co-sleeping because that's not gonna work. Like we get better stretches when we all sleep together. You gotta look out for number one. Yeah, like we were getting better sleep a few weeks ago than we are now, so. But I also do feel like that just sometimes happens Like it not linear It is linear but there are like little divots and maybe you just in a divot Perhaps and and i fine with that and i willing to like ride right out the weekend to a degree um but like every three hours like 10 3 6 30 like no it not gonna work so well we gotta switch it up shake it up chicago girlfriend yeah i think i'm gonna shake up some things i was gonna talk to you about it like our schedule no no no no my feeding oh okay i would love to talk about it no i'm just like no i'm not it's not a fully it's not a full thought oh are you thinking maybe starting combination like maybe just a little stuff yes by the way that's why i had to tell a lot of people do like because formula but the thing about breast milk that's so beautiful is that it digests so quickly because it's so natural it's very sensitive on the baby's stomach and that's great but that means they get hungry again quicker so a lot of people just introduce formula at night well because also like when he's feeding all night then when i pump in the morning I always pump to get out the extra and there's not that much extra. Two weeks ago when I would pump to get out the extra, I was getting like 10 ounces. Yeah, but you're also just regulating. Like it's now the time. No, but enough for a bottle while I'm gone and then some for the freezer. Today I had to take out of the freezer for while I'm gone. Oh, I've so been where you are. Because I'm feeding throughout the night. But if we don't feed in the night, then I pump in the morning. I get plenty for the day. I love formula at night. Like do it. It's seriously fun. I'm thinking about it. We'll see how the next few days goes. But I'm just like, I'm not taking from the back freezer. I didn't take from even the front freezer. When you start, like, when you're still breastfeeding and you're actively dipping into your own stash, like, it's so traumatizing. It's really when your milk starts to regulate. That's exactly what happened to me. My milk is regulated because I was never a pumper. But now that we're eating more at night, that takes away from what I'm producing during the day. I hear you. And I need to, like, reverse it. Yeah. Uno reverse. One thousand percent. You know, I have a can of formula that I leave at your house. Go for it. I don't know what I'm going to use. I know. The formula wars. Yeah. It's wild out there. I'm waiting for, like, the episode of American Greed, you know. oh gosh like it's so crazy out here i know it's such a hard choice i know even though like then once you do it it's like okay yeah i feel like now if like i was stuck in it because you know i realized on a tiktok somebody said like you know they don't sell any formula at airports which is actually crazy like they should sell formula they don't sell diapers either there should be like a vending machine like there's kylie cosmetics you know um so if i was like in an emergency and i feel like now i'm when i was choosing formula i was like i had to look at all the studies now i'm I'm like, put it in the bottle. Like I would take anything. What does that have to do with the airport? Like if I was in an emergency in the airport. So what would you do? And someone was like, well, here I have whatever. And someone was like, well, here I have whatever. I'd be like, yeah, sure. I feel like the Band-Aid, ripping off the Band-Aid is the hardest part. Like if you've never given formula. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And once you have, it's like whatever. No, and I have in the past. And we used the same one the last two times. And like it was good. So I don't know why I might not do it again. I don't know. It's a big decision, feeding. It's such a big decision. I think about what I'm going to eat so thoroughly. Like I'm always thinking about what I'm going to eat. The amount of thought that goes into my own appetite. Yeah. It's huge. And it wouldn't make sense for us to do different formulas because we're always like sharing goods. Yeah. It would just be more convenient for me since I literally post about your house all the time these days. If you could just like be on my journey as well. Yeah. But Rue, he's not picky. No, no. If I switch, he'd switch. Yeah. Oh, a thousand percent. That's what I'm saying. Like I could put anything in his bottle. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's not a picky Rue. No. Unlike his mama. Well, today's episode is kind of- Yes, exactly. In his eating habits. Very adventurous. Vacuum. He'll try all formulas from all corners of the world. Yeah. Yes, vacuum. We have so much to do today. We've got Queenie and Weenie. We've got traitors. We actually can. Dilly dally. We have like two TV recaps. Queenie and Weenie. We're recording a Patreon after. It's like we have let's get down to business. The girls want homage. To defeat the hun. Yeah, I know. But like we're not defeating the hun here at the toes. Who do we defeat here every day? The patriarchy. I love that. Do we? I feel like we are the patriarchy. Do you feel that? I feel like we're actually like low key defeating the patriarchy, like while also trying to uphold it. Do you know what I mean? No. Like we're pro patriarchy in essence, right? Yeah. Like I work like a patriarchal society, you know, I wouldn't say I'm like pro patriarchy. I'm not going to lie. I don't like 100 percent know what the patriarchy is. I know it's like men who built this country, keeping those like women hating systems in place. and I do think there are like some of those like woman hating systems are just low-key like better lives for women like I don't I don't love I love my job obviously but like I would have loved also like not to have to work right that would be the patriarchy that kept you in the home which yeah which I love my home so yeah I'm sort of like teetering on I can't decide whether the patriarchy is bad so well I think like it gets a really bad rap but I think like when you I also think sometimes like internet wait sorry I think like internet speak they confuse the patriarchy with like government. Do you know what I mean? A system of government in which the father or eldest male is the head of the family and descent is traced through the male line That literally like what we live in Like Roy but yeah I guess Cause like yeah So it like we pro patriarchy like where the father would be the head of the family Sure. Yeah. However, like we're actually like, we just found ourselves like in a matriarchy. In a matriarchal world. I didn't set out to be a matriarch yet here. I'm such a matriarch. I didn't set out to fuck the patriarchy yet. Here we are. Fucking it. Fucking the matriarchy. Yeah. Unintentionally. You know? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. That's really quite beautiful. Yeah. So someone wants to fix that. I just think also I find like the word patriarchy the way some people feel about moist, you know, I just feel like some people make the patriarchy like and fucking it like their whole personality. And I'm like, girl, go back to work. Like, I just I find like patriarchy verbiage like an Internet. Like, I find it annoying. So I'm not with them. No, it's taking on a meaning of its own. But like, actually definition, it's just a government in which and it is a patriarchy. So it is the government. Okay, I was wrong about that. Like a society in which the men hold the power. Yeah, I guess we've quite literally never had a female president. That's really crazy. Yeah, but also think about your kids. They have your husband's last name. It's traced through the male line. But here's the thing. If I had made a really big stink, I could have gotten Ruby's last name to be Asher. I could have fought my way. We've had this conversation. I think we had it with Ben on the toes. Yeah, we did when we were in the Hamptons. And he was not down. But if I sat him down and I really worked on it, I could have gotten it. I think it's nice like I have no problem with it not being my last name I actually think like I have no like this is how it is now but I do think like if I were nearing the end of that like I think that will change in the next hundred years yeah it doesn't it like to me it doesn't make a ton of sense yeah we have said this when we do dear toasters because a lot of girls write in being like you know it's hard to change your name and they feel conflicted sometimes someone's last same as like duty or whatever um and we always say it really shouldn't be a gendered issue it's not like it's automatically the man or it's automatically the woman i think like some names sorry like are better than others sonically some names have a lot of history i think there's a lot of um factors that go into it and the family should just decide yeah based on lots of different factors you know how does it look initials like things of that you know some shallow like you know i don't like that or we had a famous uncle. No, I think there should be a reason, but it's like the woman carries the child. Like maternity is established It Oh Yeah so if I carry the baby and the baby has my last name like who is this man? Yeah. But I do feel like that is classic patriarchy. Like we carry, we feed, we do everything and we don't even get the name. Yeah. So that's like, I don't love that one. Me neither. But I'll accept it. You know, like it's been this way for hundreds of years. Like I don't necessarily think it should change now. I think that would be really confusing. I think people who hate the patriarchy, like, want to just get rid of everything, like, since the dawn of time. And I do feel, like, connected to the woman of yore because we're still doing some of the same things. So I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Like, we're so matriarchal. Beyond. In our lives. I don't even think we realize. But it's, like, we didn't, like, choose. We're just, like, the accidental matriarchs. That's the name of today's episode, of course. And also our memoirs. The accidental matriarch. Yeah. please i just i love my job i earn a great living if i had it my druthers like i would just be a kept woman so especially since i had a baby i'm so tired but i love my job and i'm never gonna quit yeah but it's like accidental like here we are like you know busting patriarch busters i wish it was a way to like find a tiktok that you saw this morning that like stuck with you do you know what i mean like oh my god and the ones that i save because i think they're gonna stick with me I never go back for and the ones that stick with me I didn't save maybe if I liked it it I don't like stuff on TikTok I just scroll but if you like it there's like a liked section let me see fuck no um it was this like video of this like a hundred year old farmer being like why women should stay home and it wasn't like stereotypical like make me a sandwich it was like women need to stay home so they can take bubble baths and live luxuriously and not get wrinkles and it was like yes actually and the comments were like farmer and the comments were like and if that was my husband i would want to make him a sandwich i would want to keep a nice sandwich is come so the way that men talk about women staying home it was all like for their own benefit it's like well fuck off i'm going to work but if the men were like i need my woman to stay home so she can be happy and healthy and thrive well you know what i would want to make the bed for you for when you get back you know yeah so i just think maybe the way we talk to one another has a lot to do with I agree. Not be like, my woman stays home and she wipes my ass and she cleans my toilets and she makes me a sandwich. Yeah It like well no Why do you have that accent Because the guy in the video did Like deadass He was a big farmer Well I love that Deer farmer Yeah Bring back deer farmer Bring back State Farm. What happened to them? They were like one of our biggest sponsors, kind of like. They were just like laying low, I guess. Yeah. But they sponsored deer toasters and we called it Deer Farmer. And that's just Toasty Lion. We should have changed it like. Permanently. Permanently to the Deer Farmer segment. We should give it a Toasty Lions. Yeah. Let's get into the stories, okay? Without further ado-da-do-da-do, it is time for the Fast Five Stories that you-da-do need to know. Today's episode is brought to you by Gold Bond Healing Hydrating Lotion. 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And Tom Brady like is a fanatics investor. He's like a OG. Yeah. so then Devin Booker she said that she thought that the Seahawks were going to win the Super Bowl she was like asked to like you know who is she going to bet on whatever he commented on that he said I bet a million the Seahawks get that ring before you do at Kendall Jenner with like the blushing very girly emoji like oh I know that one spare fingers yeah that's not like for a big man but okay um and then she wrote back at d book rolling eyes emoji how's the ankle and he wrote back come rub it how did he spell come no properly thank god for that thank god for that so people were like what is this shtick the people were confused whether this was like a real like comment that he left or like part of the campaign so it seems like it's part of the campaign because he also posted a story in support of fanatics so it seems like he's in the fanatics family and they're like bantering and getting paid to banter. However, I don't think it's part of anyone's media and marketing strategy to say, come rub it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like his initial comment, like I bet a million. Was a little mean, by the way, was mean, but also he's like betting he's still like making about fanatics. Yeah. And then they went rogue. I just feel like he went off script. Her to rub his ankle. The thing is, is not to be such a narc, because I was loving this campaign and I still am. But you know, I get in trouble when I don't do like hashtag ad and stuff like that. You know you can get sued by the FTC And I feel like us like guessing whether or not this is like a paid endorsement just does violate FTC regulations His comments should have had to have said you know better than before you do at Kendall Jenner hashtag ad because it is confusing I just sorry to be an arc. Yeah, but I guess when you're the spokesperson for a company, you can sometimes like post in support of them and it's not paid. Yes, but we didn't know Devin Booker like. No, but he had something on his story like about fanatics. Okay. Or whatever like. Yeah. um yeah also like i'm finding this whole campaign like less and less requires me to watch a video from jimmy of kendall facetiming tom reedy i actually didn't watch it because i don't care yeah so like all the positive like fun feelings that i had on monday or whenever we talked about it like they are lessening it was still a great commercial but like you know i don't know kendall was being like you know nerd on valid like i'm just like i'm liking it less yeah it's just a lot to consume you know I don't want to have to keep up I don't want to feel like I missed something yeah and I know we were like waiting for a follow-up commercial perhaps on the actual day of the Super Bowl and that I would have been fine and fun with it's like it felt like her spot on Jimmy was sponsored by fanatics it like was it's a lot to keep up with and I don't want to do that much keeping up at the moment yeah I've seen some other roll make it easy for me I've seen some other rollouts and it pains me because I'm about to say something negative about Uber Eats which is probably my most used application but I feel like they often fall into like the trope of just like throw money at it throw money throw celebrities with like really unmemorable commercials and they probably spend the most they're one of the brands that spends the most money every year on the super bowl and like they've already started their rollout with like parker posey it's just like very topical very white lotus and it's just like a little old stated yes for sure i remember like they had like ross and rachel from friends so they get like amazing celebrities but everything's so unmemorable i feel like they really like they need to do something different they're always just doing the same formula and i feel like it's not memorable they spend so much money they just like try and get the most famous person that they could possibly get and it's like okay yeah and there's so much you could do it's not like a hard brand to advertise for no and i love uber eats it's my favorite well that's a fair criticism yeah are you ready for our next story and the commercial was so corny it was like well it was like her being very you know parker posey like football is like okay she doesn't talk like that she was saying how football is like so food coded, you know, Jerry Rice. Yeah, and then I don't know the other players that she named, but they all had like food in there. And I was like, oh. Yummy. It was so like written by a third grader. Wow. Yeah. They need to hire the fanatics writer who wrote that Kendall commercial. Yeah The commercial is still great The cheese stands alone but like everything else I could live without What the cheese stands alone Ben is always saying it I realized this morning that I was the one I titled our episode because I was running out the door So I couldn't really think of a title. And you suggested it. So I thought I just assumed that's what everyone is saying. The cheese stands alone is a phrase from the final verse of a children's nursery rhyme and game. Oh, the farmer in the dell. The cheese stands alone. Yes. Okay. I endorse. It's cute. That's why maybe I know it now more than ever. Maybe Ben's been singing it. like in his nursery roundup, you know? In his roundup. Perhaps. That's beautiful. Thanks. I thought it was going to be like something stupid from TikTok. That's actually really sweet. I endorse our title from the other day. You think so little of me, sweet sister. And once again, the cheese stands alone. Imagine if we made the title of the cheese stand alone again. The cheese stands alone, part two. I'd be down if we didn't have the perfect title. The accidental matriarch. That would actually, the accidental matriarch is what this show should be called. 1,000% if we ever rebrand somebody write that down like that's the title but I also like it for a memoir or it sounds like a book that gets turned into a movie it sounds like a and then a multi-million dollar lawsuit oh I saw tiktok today so I was telling Jackie before oh we can do this story next oh okay about Justin Baldoni I feel like I've been doing a lot of research on Baldoni v Lively and I know people are over it I mean that's just not gonna work for me because I feel like I've sort of fallen on the sword of Blake Lively. And up until recently, they've been sort of laying dormant. And I wasn't 100% sure if I was right. And I was like, I'm going to stop talking about it because I feel like maybe I like went too far and I would have had to backtrack. And I just want to say, like, prepare to be sick of me. I am now sure more than ever that I am team Blake Lively. I just want to say that. So a voicemail was unsealed from Blake to Justin Maldoni before making it ends with us in the voice message. And she's got some real nerve leaving like minutes long voicemail for a co-worker. It's inappropriate. She is insufferable. Sent on February 8th, 2023, she spoke openly about feeling overwhelmed as she prepared to return to work while juggling back-to-back projects and newborn and family obligations. She said, I'm talking to you as a friend at this point more than anything. She explained that she was already committed to filming another project first, despite feeling physically and emotionally stretched thin. She said, the only reason that I'm doing that movie before is because I gave them my word and I wouldn't go back on that. But having a week off in between, it's just a lot. She described the stress of returning to work without adequate child care support. I still don't have a baby nurse, she said, adding that the idea of going back to work so soon felt overwhelming. Literally me on the messenger Literally me today Literally Like actually relatable I don know why the fuck she telling this to her like soon to be boss yeah she said shooting in april shooting in march it just too soon after having a baby and not sleeping and wanting to be in my best shape is this is literally me you guys play about us i like that obviously she said they're selfish reasons i'm telling you this if by chance you're like oh my god if i could go two weeks earlier that would actually be great then amazing oh this is like kind of sad yeah wait what's cringe about this just like her voice everything that she releases her text like she is just a corny millennial woman so she's like the way she speaks is very choogy and corny but the message is actually and then she's got an earnest play she said this is my social interaction these days just talking into voice memos so like now this is like the the voice memo of like a sad desperate woman but like this is why we need the patriarchy because this woman shouldn't be working a thousand percent so she's not a woman who like needs to work so this is like yeah if she didn't feel like the societal pressure to work because what she doesn't do a new a movie because she had a baby and then she's put out to pasture because she didn't get on the circuit and everyone forgets about her right that's what happens on women no it's a tale as old as time and no matter what industry you're in like you're getting passed up for shit yeah because you took three days off if you take to nurse your baby if you take too long off we can't even take a longer maternity because everyone will move on no it's so true find another pop culture podcast that they love the thing is like that is true yeah it is and it's like not people's fault like they gotta live they gotta listen to podcasts. Like, no, it's terrible. Like we're, we'll be bleeding out here. Um, and then we also get accused of like taking too long. Like I can't. Um, so I actually quite deeply relate to Blake, um, in this voice memo. It is just, I think the shock value is really still not wearing off for people like with reading Taylor's text messages. These are things, why would we ever expect to hear like a mega celebrities voice memo? Like it's just crazy. And the point of the voice memo, we said like, oh, and it's like, oh, your courts could, your text could end up in court let's send voice memos oh but like I thought they disappear and he obviously kept it and nefarious people who keep voice memos are not your friend voice memos I know when someone keeps my voice memo I'm like why I didn't even say anything so I really I'm gonna call out someone by name Remy Bader keeps all my voice memos and I just like voice memo her because we're like gossiping and stuff and I'm like why do you keep keep keeping them she's like it's like a setting I don't know how to turn off oh I feel like that I feel like Shannon keeps them so I I think it's a setting and like Shannon, Remy, turn it off. Cause I'm just like, was that so interesting that you wanna ever hear it again? Or it was like, I used to send them a lot when I was breastfeeding, cause I only had one hand. Yeah. And it's like, I'm just gossiping, but stop. No, sometimes I'm just explaining something. It's actually more boring. That's why it needs to be explained. It's actually not like ratatata. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, I'm just gossiping, but stop. No, sometimes I'm just explaining something. It's actually more boring. That's why it needs to be explained. It's actually not like ratata. Ratata. I can do ratata over talk to text. Oh, I can ratata with the best of them. But I can't do talk to text when I have some like boring nuance thing to say. That's when I do my voice memo. They're not even that interesting. So like, why are you keeping it? Do you ever want to listen to it again? I think there is a setting that automatically keeps them. I'll give Shad and Grace. Yeah, I'll give Remy grace, but I think Justin Baldoni keeping them is nefarious. Yeah. So also what I was going to say is sometimes like you put like the worst in the voice note because you think that it'll disappear. It will disappear. Like when you don't want to say put something in writing, you say it. But now knowing like, yeah, I think we're all moving differently technologically ever since this lawsuit and like all the evidence has started to come out. Yeah. I'll be meeting you in person if you want to talk. Yes. If I have something crazy to say, like, let's go off the grid. Yeah. You can come down to Florida. Yeah. And we'll take a drive. And we can talk about it. So a lot of evidence that has, it's so funny because so much like documents were released that it's everything is still very slowly being unsealed and not unsealed, but like sort of made public. And I think we talked a lot last week about the cut of the movie, right? Like Sony, why were there two? And so it's now been confirmed via documents that Justin Baldoni's contract with Sony, there was always going to be a bake-off. He did not get final cut of the movie. Sony was worried about giving this huge budget. They gave him $25 million. Did they call it a bake-off? It's called a bake-off. That's what it is. I was like, when there are multiple edits of a film and then the best tested one moves forward. So this whole time it's been sort of alleged that Blake stole the movie and she made her own cut, like going rogue with Ben Affleck. Well, no, Justin Baldoni never had final cut of the movie. His contract with Wayfarer is now like public. He never had final cut. There was always going to be a bake off. He was able to put forth his own final version. And then there were agreed upon, they were going to do the testing and then there were agreed upon categories. There was like, you know, under 35 women, 18 year and older. And so there were two key categories that he had to win in the bake-off to get his cut made. And he lost both of them, like fair and square, to Blake Lively. Blake Lively's cut is Sony's cut. So Sony gets a cut and Justin Baldoni gets a cut. I'm not 100% sure why Sony's cut. They went to Blake Lively, but they did. Colleen Hoover endorsed it. Wait, and all this time we thought Justin's cut won, but Blake's went to theater. Well, actually, we thought Justin's cut won and Justin's went to theater. Now it turns out No we thought but up until last week we thought that like his was better but Sony went with hers why no hers was better in the two key categories that before all this drama justin signed his contract saying yes i want i will win these two categories if my cut so it kind of makes sense because justin was this sort of green director they gave him the budget and you know what like say what you want about blake live like her cut went on to make 350 million dollars colleen hoover said she thought it was better it told the story better um colleen hoover also like there are emails coming out now that she was like having problems with justin like before blake was even cast cast like he cut her out when she sold the rights to whoever it was sony she had said like she had been burned in the past by like some of her works like them cutting her out and so she wanted to be more involved there's like an email of her just like sort of pleading being like i'd like to be more involved in the script writing process and justin like totally cut her out and like was holding events with like fans to work on the script excuse and he invited colleen but told her not to speak isn't that weird that is weird silencing women um just write the script you know Yeah, right. Just write the script. And also it's based on a book. It's pretty much written for you. So like I think Colleen endorsing Sony slash Blake's version and then Blake winning. It was like sort of a no brainer. Yeah. But so a lot of misinformation when it comes to the cut. And I'll acknowledge that I also was misinformed. Yeah. But that's all good to know. Very interesting. So the whole thing is that like. It's less of a stolen movie. It's more of like that she like wanted. Right. And I think Justin really needs to legally prove that Blake stole the movie because if that's the case then he wouldn't have been capable of harassing her because she was not his subordinate you know um and that's what his counter suit was about but it got thrown out so he really needs to prove that blake stole the movie like legally in order to be free of any alleged harassment because you can't harass someone who's not like it's not harassment in the workplace if it's not your subordinate well that's not true i think that's like what the legal claim he's taking is you could harass your boss. A thousand percent. Okay. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Thank you for that. I feel like we're getting closer to clarity. Yeah. And the lawsuit hasn't even started yet. I just like, I was teetering. Like I wasn't a hundred percent sure if I was right about Black Lives Matter. And I was like, have I made a grave error? And that's why I did stop talking about it. And when the lawsuit. For two days. No, no, no. Like we took like over the summer. Like there was. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. There's been a huge break. I thought you meant like since last week. No. And then like since last week, I've been feeling more like, I really don't, I don't think Justin Baldoni is like this big victim that everyone, like all these people think he is. Like, I think like he was a freak. There's so many women on record. I feel like that whole thing is getting pushed aside, all the women on record You know his former podcast hosts need to interview her Like she is the most interesting woman in the world to me What did she say Remember she just like quit being like toxic masculinity Yeah but I thought she quit like when he was getting canceled Yes. She supported him for years. Right. So is it just like you couldn't take the heat or do you have something to say? Liz Plank. Okay. I was, for me, it was giving weenie energy. Yeah. But it could be giving victim energy. Right. So there's, there's the young Lily who's actress's name. I can never remember. I'm so sorry. Of course, Blake Lively, Jenny Slate. the podcast host, Colleen, like saying that she was being silenced. Yeah, I'm feeling more sure than ever. Like I'm ready to be the villain of this story. Like I am not, I'm not team Justin Baldoni. Like I stand firmly, like prepare to be sick of me. I've done the research. Accidental matriarch. Yeah, look at me. Accidental. Yeah. I just think it's been so easy to like Blake Lively. Like she, sure, she's annoying. That's, that being the headline, she's a weenie, she's insufferable, she talks weird, her and Taylor Swift like took down. Yeah, whatever. our next story sexually harass anyone okay netflix's new dating show age of attraction keeps contestants real age under wraps the trailer just dropped for a new netflix show called age of attraction that is hosted by nick vial and natalie joy vial because they have an age gap they have a crazy age gap how about what's the difference um she is eight it's an 18 year age gap but it just feels so much smaller because he's he's a podcaster so he's like in a young man's game and he looks young he seems younger and she seems right she's like a mother already she was a mother very young but it's still so crazy yeah so they're the perfect hosts for this show they are um that's called age of attraction so it's a bunch of people ages 22 to 59 and they like you know rotate date each other and fall in love and then they don't find out each other's ages until the end it's giving season one of love is blind like it kind of sounds like an amazing idea. I just want to say like it's kind of weird because like you have eyes. Well yes. You might not know someone's exact age but like you can see if they are older or younger. Do you know who like would have been perfect on this show? Who? Jessica and Mark. Oh yeah. From Love is Blind. Like because they were two people who couldn't get past age and I think sometimes that does happen. But they were like so similar in age. How different were they? There's this one couple that the trailer focuses on where he's clearly younger and she's clearly older. And then like there, and she was like, typically, if I had met you, I would have set you up with my daughter. Do you watch a trailer? And then at the end, it's like, we gonna share each other ages but it like we have eyes You are much older than him What are the age gaps again 22 all the way to 59 yeah I don love like a 22 year old girl being with a 59 year old man there is like an element of ick here but it's everyone has eyes is what I'm saying like yeah you could see that someone's older or younger you might not be able to guess they're exactly but within what like five years you think you'd be able to guess like five to ten if you're in your 20s 30s 40s 50s like it's not that crazy it's not blind and then at the end they're gonna say their age and how different could your age be from what you really are? Well, let's see. Maybe they cast people. Maybe that's what the casting director was looking for. People who really don't look their age. There are people like that. Yeah. When I went to the dermatologist to get my Botox, I was like, how old are you? She looked amazing. She was an amazing advertisement for herself because she was 44. I'm like, you look my age. That was like me when I was at the restaurant and they said I looked 18. When was that? You were there. I don't remember. I was talking about it, but I chalk it up to the pads. What restaurant were we at? the club we were in the club i don't remember we were in the club it was a few weeks ago oh you exactly remember something from a few weeks ago no and it was like for me i believe you and that's what they said yeah and whenever like people see me they think i'm very young yeah i think that actually that is true yeah i do have a youth your fair skin your light hair like definitely people think like i'm always older than people think i'm younger than i am you're also like out and not here of course but like out in the world, like you're kind of not shy, but quieter. So that also like people thinking like, she's shy. She's young. It's like a little girl. You're giving little girl. A hundred percent. Little girl, accidental matriarch. But the show like is going to be great in terms of like reality TV. And I'm imagining there's a big twist because so there's, yes, there has to be like, this guy has to be literally 22 years old, but I'm glad that that's like the minimum. You know who they would have cast back in the day? Like Taylor Hicks. Remember the guy who won American Idol who was like 22 and had a full head of gray hair yeah people like that there are and I'm sure the casting team like that this was an important show like in terms of casting yeah I think they probably spent a long time like looking for certain people yeah for old people who look younger and young people who look older so everyone thinks they're similar in age but then they're not yeah I think that it's like a good premise though because I think if you can relate on like things and then you find out each other's age well Well, it's like we already related. Age isn't as big of a thing as looks. Unless. Right. It's pretty big. Really? Sometimes like you really like someone, but like their age is just like. isn't as big of a thing as looks. isn't as big of a thing as looks. Unless... Right. It's pretty big. Really? Sometimes, like, you really like someone, but, like, their age is just, like... Well, unless it's about, like, then kids and stuff. Like, if that person, if the younger person wants kids... Or you're divorced, and you don't want to marry someone who's already been married. But that's something that would come up in the conversations of falling in love, like your history and stuff. Yeah, yeah. You know, but just, like, the lifestyle of wanting kids if you're with an older woman, and that's just not going to be a possibility. Actually, I watched a clip of Claire Hayes. Because we live in a patriarchy. Okay, but the patriarchy is not like God's fault. Yeah, it's biology. It's not really, they didn't make it this way. Yeah, right. It's like not the patriarch's fault, not to defend the patriarch. And maybe like the patriarchy is a function of the biology and the biological fact that women- It's based on science. Women have a hard stop. Yeah. Well, Claire Danes actually, I saw a clip of her on Good Hang with Amy Poehler talking about something so interesting that she got pregnant at 44. And she was like, I had no, her kids were like 12 years old already. She had to do multiple rounds of IVF for her most recent pregnancy and she was 44. She was like, she had no idea that she could get pregnant. She was freaking out when she got pregnant. Obviously, you know. But she was doing IVF? No. So like with her previous pregnancies, she had to do IVF. So she was like, there's no way I'm 44. I had the hardest time. And then she got pregnant. Just a crazy story. Look at that. Woman. Woman. Matriarch. Infinite possibilities. It's true. Are you ready for our fourth story, which is going to be Trader's Recap? 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But no, like Michael was valid and everything he said and honestly justice for Michael. So, so far my takes with everyone had been pretty on par with the fans. But I'm really shocked at how many people are like mad at Rob for last night. I'm mad at Rob. I'm not. I am because. I'm sorry. Lisa was like a liability. Yeah. Lisa wasn't a great traitor. And I have to imagine it was even worse in person. Like she really was awful. But he never said that. He never said she's a bad trader. She's a liability. That's why she needs to go because she's like giving up the secret. He like sort of exacerbated sort of a seed that Colton had planted and let it grow. Like he didn't back his fellow trader. And I guess eventually the traders do turn on each other because you want to win and you want to win with at least the least amount of people as possible. Right. But the less traders there are, the more the chance of faithfuls have. But also a really kind of effective way to keep the smoke off of you is to lead a charge against a fellow trader. So like it sucks. But like, look, Candace was being so obviously Team Lisa. And the second the roundtable ended, everyone started saying Candace's name for the first time ever. No, but Rob said it. No, someone else said it. Robin Colton. Someone else said it and Colton, I mean, and Rob like substantiated it, but he did not say it first. He easily said a housewife wouldn't vote for a housewife. He could have. That's literally why Colton went for Lisa, because she voted for Portia. It was very smart of Candace to vote for Rob because she was kind of in a bad spot and she could have just done like a throwaway. But if Candace does get found out as a traitor they be like well who was Candace targeting And why would she think she was targeting a fellow traitor Oh true I actually don think it was smart that Candace voted for Rob because now Rob knows that it war, whereas he could have. And now when she goes like she has to like whip up Johnny and everyone to be against Rob, whereas she could have been doing that in secret and Rob would have no idea. Do you feel like the show is becoming a little unfair gender wise? like the five the six people who won the challenge it was five um oh yeah and natalie like who's like a very fit survivor survivor so like i thought the same thing that the women didn't have a they don't get a chance to get the dagger or the shield challenges should be like a little bit um more like intellectual like a combination of both physical and donna kelsey never stood a chance right she couldn't have done last night's challenge like i do think they need to become like a little bit more like sort of like an escape room yeah dorinda would be good at that like i think it's becoming a little bit unfair and that was such a physical challenge like of course you have a former NFL player it was Stephen Coletti like all the guys and then they have this like boys club where with Natalie where they're like you know sharing secrets I don't know it's becoming a little unfair I do think that they should spice it up a little bit where it's like maybe a puzzle I agree with you and on the one hand it's like oh maybe this is like a special forces type where it's like well you don't come on the show if you're not it's not it's like it's a personality game it is a mind game so I agree that that's not fair and I felt the same way and I also feel like it's unfair they have this like boys group going where like Mark and not Steven. Steven has a mind of his own. He does. He really likes Mark is a follower. Mark is such a follower. You know what? Johnny Weir is kind of a free thinker. He just has bad thoughts. But I don't I don't consider him in that group. No, but everyone who said that they were going for Natalie, literally not one of them voted for Natalie because Rinna didn't do a good job at the roundtable. We need to talk about right now because I actually was sad to see her go I was sad to see her voted out and I didn't expect that because that's the point of the game to get the traders and she wasn't even being a good trader but to go out like that was just sad she's like so she comes in like so hot she talks such a big game she did that after people were on to her like she flipped the switch so obviously like Colton pointed out that she was being quiet to everyone so she started being loud that's like the most obvious thing she should have stayed in her like it could not be more obvious Oh, and we need to talk about Jam Jam. Wait, we need to know. But I just was going to say that she talks like such a Lisa fucking Rinna. Like, I'll be the best writer because I'm an actress in this and I'm a housewife. And if you don't survive housewives and can survive the roundtable, she literally dug her own grave at the roundtable by giving nothing People were prepared to vote for Natalie and she did not defend herself in any sort of compelling way Like I only coming for you because you coming for me It was so like no, but, and she actually had something good to go on, which is that Natalie slipped up. Tara heard it like that's something tangible and she was not compelling at all. And it's just a case of who can speak better. And like, you are a housewife and you're one of the most iconic ones and you were taken down by Colton and Natalie and Rob. To be fair, like I do not blame Rob for not backing Lisa. Like I do believe she was a liability. It's not that he didn't back her and he could have done it in a, like. He could have went harder. He could have used his double dagger. Like. No, but like Colton had an idea of something and Rob really like confirmed it and the two of them went hard. And towards the end, Rob, everyone at the table respects Rob. He could have said less and he went hard for Lisa. It's not that he didn't back her. it's that he went for her. I actually just don't blame him. He kind of needed her out. Last week when he voted for her, I completely understood. He had no choice and it looks better for the traitors if he votes for her and it confuses everyone. This week, he gunned for her. She might have actually not been sent home if not for him. He is the most popular person in the house, more so than Colton. He's doing Colton's bidding. I am so excited for Colton to realize that he's been like the traitor hunter. He thinks he's like, I got a house. First of all, Rob did. And he thinks he's like so. No, but no, no, no. And literally no one's getting played like a fiddle more. That was Colton's. He figured it out first, but she only went home because of Rob. Yes. Like he, like you said, is the most popular guy in the house. When he finds out that like he thinks he's at, like he's running this and he's the biggest loser here. I can't wait. I can't wait for that to happen. Like the person that he confides in the most is the traitor. So. And they will have to turn on each other. Oh, and the funny thing is that people now think like what Rob is doing, Colton is actually doing. Like they think Colton is maybe a traitor who turned on Lisa. And they were like going at it for a while. And that was like, that's actually a good theory for someone to think. And it's hilarious because it's literally Colton's best friend. Yeah. So let's talk about Jam Jam and the air kiss. Yeah. First of all, the drama. He's getting pulled away like he's in a psych ward. Like it's Lisa. It's Lisa. I just want to say you can really tell that like that the experiment has gotten to these people. the fact that Natalie was, she was like, I was scared for my life. I was so scared. Oh my God. Natalie was being crazy. Like, oh my God, you're just going to be taken off the reality show. And back to your family. Like, you're fine. She was being nutty. They were really acting like they're going to die. Yeah. Yeah. It must be. And I've heard now, you told me that like, reality show and back to your family like you're fine he was being nutty they were really acting reality show and back to your family like you're fine he was being nutty they were really acting like they're going to die yeah yeah it must be and i've heard now you told me that like before the round table it's two minutes of silence they play spooky music it's definitely more than i thought it was like i thought it was just like reality stars like getting together no they do it it's an immersive mind fuck it's an immersive experience yeah where they actually think they're gonna die yeah if they don't get the antidote so when jam jam was being like taken away by the guards and like he's like oh my god i mean ben could not stop laughing like the level of drama and it's interesting that like he was right it is lisa but they were completely wrong about how the murder in plain sight happened yes and i just want to say i don't think it's fair that he was taken away like that and that he got to speak and say who killed him um like i don't agree like to the rules of the game yeah but the thing is is that it's the same way like at a round table because the thing is he was wrong it was Lisa yes but not in the way that he thought it was so it's completely fair to like I actually don't I don't what if he was right and like he figured it out like I don't agree I think it's fine that he was able to and it added such a fucking funny level it was funny but it's like usually the dead can speak you kill someone successfully they wouldn't be able to speak come back from the dead and tell you who did it I guess Like maybe, but I'm not mad about it. I don't know. I, I, I like felt defensive of Lisa. I felt like it just didn't feel. Well, I wanted her to do better. I thought the show was like. I wasn't, no, but the thing is you were loving her as a traitor. You thought she was like, so like you're having your renaissance. I didn't even feel that way. Yeah. But just the way she went out just felt like wrong to me. I can't explain it. I didn't feel like good. Like we got. It wasn't prideful either. You got yourself a traitor. Yeah. The thing I was having a renaissance and honestly it was Colton who pointed out like what I liked about Lisa was that she wasn't being Lisa like that isn't who she is so she wasn't being a good trader I do think Candace is being an amazing trader and I had very low expectations of her um it's tough to be a trader and a housewife with another trader so like yes you could say that she only didn't vote for Lisa because she is also a housewife and she has maintained that she didn't vote for Portia thank god um but it's starting to get a little suspicious like now her name's being thrown around everyone's names yeah I guess John and Tara's names have If your name's not being thrown around, you're not in the game. Yeah. Johnny and Tara. Or Mark. Maybe their alliance will. Yeah. Mark. Mark is a disappointment. Although I didn necessarily agree with Lisa choice to kill Jam Jam It felt really random Yeah And yes he I didn think he was She should have killed one of Colton cronies to take away votes from the Colton block. Yes. Without directly going for Colton. Yes. Like a Dorinda or. Like a Mark. Mark does what Colton says. Yeah. And if he thinks he's singing for himself. Yeah. Yeah. He needs to they need to take away from that just like boy coalition. Yes. Because it's getting really strong between Rob and Colton and now they have Mark. They're turning on Steven, obviously a mistake. Steven's just like guilty of being a good guy. Yeah, like really sweet. Like I actually really like him. Yeah. I think that, I don't know, I'm not mad at Rob because like I felt it like Lisa, every time Lisa was accused, she could not have handled it worse. She started like giggling. Like why don't you just tell everyone you're a traitor? Like go bad. And at some point, yes, it's like traitor strong, but you got to look out for number one. And I feel like she was increasingly becoming a liability and the only way for him to like successfully navigate it, Like he doesn't have the housewife thing like that. He can say it and vote for Lisa. No, no, he could vote for Lisa. I have no problem with him voting for Lisa last week, this week at a certain point in the episode, he led the charge. Yeah. And I like a underhanded kind of way. Yeah. And that to me, that's like, that's beyond like being a traitor because that your loyalty is to the traders, I guess up into a point, but I just felt like we weren't at that point yet. No, he definitely escalated it. It felt like really premature to like bust up the traders. And there's still like 10 people left. Like, I don't think I agree. And they're like not going to win. They're not going to figure it out either. Like they were far from figuring it out. This does make it messier. Yeah. But it also makes it really hard to hunt traitors if the traitors are fighting with the traitors. So it is also a good. Yeah. Because you could argue anything. Oh, they voted for them because they know they're a traitor. That was a fellow traitor or they're a traitor who wants to kill a faithful. Like, yeah. So you have to just be the most compelling arguer. Yes. That's what it is. And Lisa was really not like she was bad. And I feel like She's so You know Like I feel like For a lot of the housewives Except for Candace Because Candace is able to like You know Hang with the people She's a real girl One of them She's become friends with everyone But Lisa Rin is like an entity Yeah And it's like She's not gonna ever be Everyone's best friend Because she's just like Iconic and Not interested She's not gonna be like a low Like a down low Hanging out Chilling kind of girl Like Rob and the guys And Candace and the girls So like She was in a sort of A tough spot Even if she was Kind of like Donna Kelsey Even if she was a faithful, I don't know how she would have acted. Actually, I think she would have been very housewife. Like, because it's easy to be a faithful. You don't have this chip on your shoulder. Like so I think she would have been a more housewives coded version of herself Yeah I think that Rob And Rob saying maybe it a turret full of Housewives That was brilliant Yeah Hopefully they go for Dorinda next And then get it wrong. First of all, Dorinda voting for Maura and spelling her name Miayra. Like, she spelled it like M-O-R-A. There was an E in there. M-O-E-R-A. It's funny how they spell each other's names. Hilarious. Maura's like giving nothing. And I actually appreciated Dorinda being like, you just come here and you like are such a follower and you like say nothing, you do nothing. Yeah, Maura's not a traitor, but she sucks. Like, sorry. I liked that Dorinda came for her. I agree. And she's just another one in the Colton Robb voting bloc. She's like a mark. And all she has going for at this point is the potential of falling in love. With Robb. With Robb. And then Robb having to turn on his lady love and his best friend. I can't fucking wait. Yeah. So also that rumor that we heard that Rob and Candace aren't speaking, like it does seem like they don't come back together. So when they get in the turret, I was really curious to see them talk. And that's where they cut off the episode. But that will be weird. Yeah. And it's like Rob is playing a really good game. He's a really good trader and he's turning on everyone. But it's at a point giving psychopath. Yeah. It seems like Lisa Rinna did not watch one episode of the show before coming on. And Rob maybe watched every single one of them a little too closely. Like he came in, he is so smart about this one thing. Yeah. It's weird. And that he was able to guess who had the dagger. Oh my God. That was insane. Okay. So I was like following his line of thinking and I was like, well, it's obviously Steven because Steven picked up the plank and then like shook his head. No. And it's like, okay, well only a liar would do that. Like it was such a weird. Steven is an honest man. It's true actually. That was sociopathic. I'm telling you. And so, yes, he's playing a good game, but, like, at what cost? Like, great, you're the best liar. So the thing is, it's also really interesting, like, the varying levels of fame of all these people. Because the pot, I think, last season was, like, around $250,000 is where they ended up. And, like, for someone like Tiffany, she was saying, like, I'm a single mom. Like, she won one show once. Like, she's not a celebrity. The money actually means more to people than others. And I think, like, Lisa Renev, it was $250,000 and she split it with everyone. Like, great, but, like, whatever. But I think for someone like Rob Who like His time is a little bit past In terms of celebrity He definitely still makes Like a nice living But he lives on his farm And he's not like you know Out here being a celebrity Even though now he so huge I saw him in a Sonic commercial Did you say about Trader No I was going to say I don think Rob falls Into that category He was on Love Island the most popular season two years ago I think he gets Brandales up the wazoo and lives a quiet life Well, he does live a quiet life. So I don't think he needs that much. He's Instagram. But I think like he's an Instagram thought. But I think the money, like, it's not really a level playing field for everyone. Like, Eric? I would think Colton needs the money more than Rob. I don't know. I keep, every time I open my TikTok, there's a first ad for Nanit from Colton Underwood. What? It's insane. Okay. Rob has 1.6 million followers. And they're fresh. Yeah. And I also, I'm going to go down to like before traders. So this is November. Okay. Wait, 2024. Yeah. That's before. Oh, he doesn't post. He never posts. And he has 1.6 million followers. Oh, Celsius partner in October. Oh my God. Everything is an ad. Arby's. Arby's. Yeah. T-Mobile. Every single post is an ad. Real Zaxby's. I know that. Hey dude. I'm at every single. I'm not even scrolling. Chili's, Skinny Dipped, Organic Post, Organic Post, Organic Post. Okay. At 1.6 million followers. Reels, XBs again, T-Mobile. I'm not skipping. MeUndies, I'm not skipping. Tic Tac, I'm not skipping. Organic Post, Revolve, Organic Post, Poppy, Revolve, Organic Post, Tinder. Wow, so many ads. No, you're right. so he doesn't fall into the category no um he's so cute by the way i just like i love him yeah no he's really cute and i like him but i i didn't like it i can't i just run me i didn't hate it like lisa at some point like it's oh and i just want to say the whole episode was so overhyped like the banquet oh i'm saying this beyond when you hear banquet what so we got like that was just marketing i thought it was like i thought alan was being real with us and he's just being uh an uh a marketer no like a corporate cog like that was insane it was a good it was good it It was interesting. It wasn't, I thought last week was better. I thought the Michael Colton episode was better. No, but the pulling Jem, Jem away, I was cracking up. Like I get what, like that was completely overhyped. Yeah. Fifth and final. Fifth and final was tell me lies recap. Okay. So much TV was watched last night. Thank God. Such a good episode. First of all, they didn't do any wedding flashbacks. It was just like kind of an episode about people in college and I was enjoying it. Yeah. I loved the Wrigley, oh, Breeze. She's a very good actress. So pathetic, like the whole mom thing. and I didn't know where it was going, but it seemed like fine. But the drinking was like, is this bad? No, it was definitely like imperfect, you know? And maybe she's setting herself up for disappointment, where it was going. where it was going. Yeah. But it seemed like fine. Yeah. But the drinking was like, is this bad? No, it was definitely like imperfect, you know, and maybe she's setting herself up for disappointment, but it was more so about Wrigley being there for her. Now I need to go back and watch the wedding. Like, is her mom there? Oh, I don't know. I love Wrigley. Like, I just couldn't love him anymore. And like, when are him and Pippa going to break up? Right. And he did so right by Pippa. He didn't kiss. No, and Pippa wouldn't give a fuck. No, I know. But like, as far as he knows. No, he's not been a bad guy. He's been very loyal. He comes and picks Pippa up, always kisses her. And Pippa can't dump him because he's going through a lot. The Chris thing at that pool party gave me a chill down my spine. Yeah, I was like, who the fuck is that? No, and he's like, why are you saying that to me? It's a valid question, except the fact that we know that he does this. Right. So yes, he didn't do that, but he doesn't recognize that he does that to other people. Yeah, which is crazy. Yeah. And Pippa gives me a pit. like the whole show is so pit they should call it tell me pit give me pit it is so pit inducing yeah um what else happened in the episode my queen i i'm disappointed in her because like she's putting a target on her back yeah steven sent those photos i can't imagine that a law school is going to get someone's nude photos from their ex-boyfriend and then kick them out of school for what i don't know you have to remember it's like 2000 and something like things like that did happen no but like it's not 1950. No, I know. But what would be her crime? Unless he sent it from her email, where it's like, hey guys. I mean, and then she says hey, that wasn't me. And they'd be like, clearly, because only a crazy person would do that. I don't know. I don't know what the angle is. Is it just that if you're a lawyer you can't have nude photos? And also, who did he send it to I would assume admissions I would assume admissions everywhere except Yale so that she has to go there He is just the devil. Yeah. And do we assume she went through with the procedure? Yes. Okay. Yes. I thought maybe that would be like a plot twist. Yeah, she was cramping. Oh yeah, but she just said that. No, but it was like the reason plot wise for the pregnancy was for her to be in student's orbit again. and make them entangled once more. Yeah, I saw people saying it was like a bad episode. Not a lot happened, but I enjoyed it. Yeah, it's a great show. Oh, Lucy like tried to, you know, have sex just the regular way and it's clearly not enough for her. So yes, things are escalating and you are 100% right. She's engaging in harmful behavior and it's not enough. So she's then, you know, harming herself verbally and it's just a matter of time before she harms herself physically. Yeah, but especially because that guy now looks at her differently because he thinks that she has trauma and that's why she's doing all this. Right, and he was like, oh, I thought we were just having fun, but like this is giving dark. Yeah. So he won't do it anymore. He actually turned out to be a sweetie. So it turns out like that'll be the last we see of him because she's not going back. Yeah. And so now she's engaging in like, you know, dark behavior. Yeah. Which is not good. And self-harm. And it seems like in, you know, the future at the wedding, like she's still not healed. No. And that's upsetting. Yeah. She's like the same at the wedding. Yeah. And that's tough to see. I can't believe last season she had sex with Steven at the wedding. Yeah. And Steven's the same too. He's still like, you know, he's looking through Wrigley's phone. Maybe they are perfect for each other. I wonder why Wrigley and Brie don't end up together. Like, yes, it's complicated in college. You know, I'm sure Pippa and Pippa and him break up. So at some point. Yeah And Pippa knows that he loves Brie Oh does he Yeah She said like when they were dancing on the dance floor Pippa and Wrigley and they were like talking openly about it So it must be that Brie I mean I think when Brie childhood being like sort of traumatic there a lot of stability with Evan He really loves her. He's very financially stable. And I think when you grow up like foster home to foster home, like you crave that. So yes, love wins, but not all the time. Sometimes stability wins. Yeah. Something obviously happens between the two of them where she feels like she has to make that choice. I like Evan. Also, Steven brought, I love Evan. Oh, I fucking hate Molly. I know. And it's like that exchange was really sad. But you know what? Like valid on Evan's part. Like I said a hundred times. Yeah. That this is just casual sex, which is awful, but she agreed to it. Right. And when they were playing pool and Wrigley was like, well, did you ghost her? Did you tell her that it's over? And he was like, I never told her that it started. Like, I know Wrigley's like, you know, the feminist voice. Yeah, he is. Of the men, but I don't think Evan, and imagine that it's just such a shitty feeling for Molly, but like he said what he said. You know. When people tell you who they are, believe them. Yeah, he's been harsh, but honest. Yeah. Yeah. And when he said to Brie, like, I would stop talking to her in one second if you told me to. I need Evan to get on Wrigley's level when it comes to Steven. Why does Steven have this whole, he gets to walk through his apartment and leave the dishes and he paid for the sister's school. Well, that was because Evan slept with Lucy, but now they're even. Right. So like he needs to stop hanging out. They're each other's friends. It's the last semester of senior year. These are your friends. What are you going to go make new friends? Yeah. But no. Yeah. And he also, I think Steven does roll off his shoulder a little bit now too. Like he knows that he doesn have the power over him He doesn like he not beholden to Steven Yeah But Brie starting to put pieces together about Lucy and Evan But I do think she Well she already knows because at the wedding she got the voicemail Yep. She seemed hurt but not surprised. Yeah. And at some point like you just got to let it go. Yeah. Like it's fine. Yeah. And it's like she likes Evan but she doesn't like love him. Right. So it's not going to be like heartbroken. This is sort of a marriage of convenience at this point. Like, yeah, he really wants to be with Brie. So, you know what? be with Bray. Yeah. Let's step into Queenie and Weenie, our final segment of the week where Jackie and I deliver two awards. Queenie of the week and Weenie of the week. It comes as no surprise. Let's just say together who our Queenie is on the count of three. One, two, three. Queen Corgi. And do we have the same Weenie? Who's your Weenie? Pugcaso for beating me. Like I couldn't say it then. I have to say it now. I said to Ben, I'm like, I have to think of my Queenie and Weenie. I'm like, this morning, I was like, I'm thinking of doing Pugcaso. And he goes, who's Pugcaso? Like seriously, I said, Are you fucking serious? And he was like, oh, yeah, I know. I know. No, I actually I like Pug Casso. My weenie would be the audience members who voted for Pug Casso. Them too. Over Queenie. Because Pug Casso didn't do anything wrong. He was being himself. He was singing his best with his fantastic costume. But the audience members who didn't see true talent. And I feel like that win for you, like you needed that win. Yeah. Mentally and emotionally. And they didn't get it. They hurt you. Yeah. So I blame them for everything. I actually have a really funny story about me losing. I'll share it on the Patreon it's so funny okay we're about to record that so this is actually a great segue for us to like sit right here and continue our conversation yes okay you guys thank you so much for listening to the Toast on Monday morning show where we deliver the fastest stories you need to know everybody Friday on YouTube so if you're watching this on YouTube please don't forget to subscribe and go see it with them subscribe to our website love you bye love you bye