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--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome to Today Explained. I'm Sean Rameswaram.
--:-- Noel King: And I'm Noel King.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Today, we're talking about Scott Pruitt, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency.
--:-- Noel King: Yeah, Scott Pruitt is facing a lot of heat right now. There are a bunch of new scandals coming out about him.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Like what?
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's the $43,000 soundproof phone booth in his office. And then there's the security detail that went to Disneyland with him.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: [laughs] That's a lot of security for a guy who's just going to Disneyland.
--:-- Noel King: [laughs] Yeah, exactly. And then there's the fact that he used a siren on his car to get to a restaurant faster.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: [laughs] That's just crazy. But behind all these controversies, Umair Irfan says that Pruitt's EPA has been one of the most consequential government agencies in the Trump administration.
--:-- Umair Irfan: That's right. I mean, Pruitt's EPA has been very busy and very productive. They've been rolling back a lot of regulations and they've been working to undo a lot of the work that the Obama administration did.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of these scandals. There's a recent whistleblower report that came out that revealed a lot of what's been going on at the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Yeah, the whistleblower report was from Kevin Schmielewski, who used to be Pruitt's deputy chief of staff.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And what did he say?
--:-- Noel King: Well, he said that Pruitt wanted to use lights and sirens in his motorcade to get to dinner appointments. And he also said that Pruitt wanted to go to places that he really wanted to go to for his own reasons, even if they weren't official business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's crazy. And what about the phone booth? How much did that cost?
--:-- Noel King: $43,000.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's a lot of money for a phone booth. And what about the security detail? How much does that cost?
--:-- Noel King: Estimates say that it can cost up to $3 million a year.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's a lot of money for a security detail. But behind all these scandals, Umair, what's the bigger picture here?
--:-- Umair Irfan: Well, I think the bigger picture is that Pruitt's EPA has been very effective at rolling back regulations and undoing a lot of the work that the Obama administration did.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific things that Pruitt's EPA has been doing. One of the big things is rolling back the National Ambient Air Quality Standards.
--:-- Noel King: Yeah, that's right. Pruitt's EPA rolled back those standards last week.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And what does that mean?
--:-- Noel King: Well, it means that industry will have more flexibility to pollute and that the EPA will have to use less stringent science to enforce the rules.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's a big deal. And what about fuel standards? What's happening with those?
--:-- Noel King: Well, Pruitt's EPA is trying to roll back the fuel standards that were put in place by the Obama administration.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And what does that mean for the environment?
--:-- Noel King: Well, it means that cars will be able to pollute more and that the air will be dirtier.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about the bigger picture here. What does it mean that Pruitt's EPA is rolling back all these regulations?
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the environment is going to suffer.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about Scott Pruitt himself. Who is he and what's his background?
--:-- Noel King: Well, Scott Pruitt is an Oklahoman who loves baseball and hates the EPA.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: [laughs] That's a great combination.
--:-- Noel King: [laughs] Yeah, exactly. And before he was the head of the EPA, he was the attorney general of Oklahoma.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And what did he do as attorney general?
--:-- Noel King: Well, he sued the EPA 14 times.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's a lot of lawsuits. And what about his background in politics?
--:-- Noel King: Well, he was a bit of a culture warrior in the Oklahoma legislature.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of lawsuits from states and environmental groups.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific lawsuits that are out there.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lawsuit from California and other states that's challenging Pruitt's EPA on the fuel standards.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from Congress.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from Congress.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a letter from Trey Gowdy that's criticizing Pruitt's EPA for not turning over documents.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail that went to Disneyland.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the media.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the media.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the fact that Pruitt's EPA is not being transparent about its actions.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about what this means for the future of the EPA.
--:-- Noel King: Well, I think it means that the EPA is going to continue to be a battleground in the culture wars.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the other issues that are facing the EPA right now.
--:-- Noel King: Well, one of the big issues is the fact that Pruitt's EPA is facing a lot of criticism from the public.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, so let's talk about some of the specific criticism that's coming from the public.
--:-- Noel King: Well, there's a lot of outrage about the $43,000 phone booth and the security detail
