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--:-- Sean Rameswaram: It's Friday, March 20th, and the person in charge of this crisis is still Donald Trump.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: I'm Sean Rameswaram, and this is your coronavirus update from Today Explained.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: More than 11,000 people have now died worldwide as a result of COVID-19. We've got well over 250,000 known cases.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: In his now daily press briefing, President Trump continued to be cagey about whether he'd use something called the Defense Production Act to compel American industries to provide critical medical equipment during this crisis.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: He then attacked his own State Department, calling it the Deep State Department.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Dr. Anthony Fauci from the NIH looked like he wanted to disappear, but it was a heck of a transition to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who did not defend his employees, but announced the United States borders with Canada and Mexico will officially close to non-essential travelers at midnight on Saturday.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Pompeo also reminded Americans abroad to come home or get ready to hunker down for a while.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: New York's governor told people to stay at home as much as possible. He also told all non-essential businesses to closed down.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: California's governor did the same thing last night, essentially.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: The nation's now running low on blood.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: The blood isn't for COVID-19 patients specifically, but the American Red Cross supplies roughly 40% of the nation's blood, and blood drives have been canceled left and right.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: They're trying to pick up the slack and could use your help.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And from the Department of Silver Linings, Americans got an extension on their taxes. You've got until July 15th.
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--:-- Sean Rameswaram: We've been explaining COVID-19 wall to wall on the show, and there's still a ton of stuff we haven't explained.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So today, we're going to do something we've never done before, an entire episode dedicated to listener questions, because you all have some really good questions, a lot of them too.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: We can't get to them all, but we've picked ones that don't overlap too much with the stuff we've already covered and the stuff we'd like to cover in the future.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Okay, let's start with something essential, something we've all been thinking about, toilet paper.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Why is everyone buying all the gosh darn toilet paper as if COVID-19 were some kind of diuretic?
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: I mean, I get that if you're not planning on leaving the house for a while, you got to have TP, but...
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: A lot of it is also just about seeing empty shelves.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: The more you see it in stores, on social media, in the news, that creates a perception of scarcity.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: So you think that there isn't enough and you want to make sure that you personally have control.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: Stockpiling in general is really about control, and people are really scared right now.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: This is probably the most uncertainty a lot of people have experienced in their lifetimes.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: They want to make sure they have everything they need at home, no matter what happens in the coming weeks.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: And so stockpiling toilet paper is one way to do that.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Hillary, I'm on a few text chains that include people from Utah, people from Missouri, and they're saying Costco is out.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: They're saying the grocery stores are out.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: Will all these shelves get restocked?
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: So manufacturers are still making toilet paper.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: They haven't had any issues with the raw materials.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: They're still delivering it to stores every day.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: They're running at capacity.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: They're, in many cases, taking new steps to replenish shelves as quickly as possible, such as sending trucks directly to and from paper factories and cutting out distribution centers.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: And based on all the information we have right now, there's no danger of the supply running out.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: If you do run out, as you may have gathered, Costco probably isn't the place to go unless you want to line up first thing in the morning and wait for a long time in a large crowd of people.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: But definitely check local retailers.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: Maybe you have a bodega, a corner store, a small independent grocery.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: Call ahead for sure.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And as far as when it's actually going to go back to normal, it really depends on how we as consumers behave.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Because this is more about demand than supply.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: If everyone is taking what they need, supply will have a chance to catch up.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: I guess while we're on supply and demand and essentials, will there be enough food now that every millennial who's never cooked in their lives is making their own meals at home?
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: So everything we've heard from the federal government, from the agricultural industry, tells us that the U.S. has plenty of food.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: So the empty shelves, you're seeing a really reflection of this surge in demand that we've seen in recent weeks.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: One interesting quote I heard from a supply chain resilience expert at CNA, which is a research organization, was the more the stock market goes down, the more grocery buying goes up.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: We got an email this morning from Lori, who's a grocery store employee, and she said, what measures are being taken to protect grocery store workers like me who can't buy hand sanitizer and can only wash our hands on break?
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: Yeah, so along with health care workers right now, grocery store workers, truck drivers, warehouse workers, They're basically the front line, particularly as cities start imposing stricter rules to help stop the spread of the virus.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: Delivery services have set up no-contact drop-offs so drivers can leave orders on a porch or at a front door without having to physically hand off a package.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: And this is something we actually saw used extensively in China over January and February.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: And it's been so effective that some experts say that people will probably continue to use it even as these cities are largely returning to normal life.
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: And then in terms of warehouses and grocery stores what we heard from companies is that they following CDC guidelines around making sure workplaces are thoroughly cleaned and disinfected asking employees not to come in if they feel sick and implementing social distancing between workers where possible
--:-- Hillary George Parkin: Still these really aren't workplaces that are particularly well set up to accommodate some of these health precautions particularly as they facing this huge surge in demand both in online orders and in terms of customers coming to stores
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: We got a ton of questions specifically about COVID-19, about the myths, about the conspiracy theories, about the symptoms of the virus.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: But one question that felt essential to us was, is this thing really just like the flu?
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And if so, why don't we care this much about the flu?
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: It felt like a good question for a doctor.
--:-- Owen Alban: My name is Owen Alban. A fancy doctor. I'm an infectious disease doctor at the University of Michigan.
--:-- Owen Alban: So is it just like the flu? Is this just like Flu 2, the sequel?
--:-- Owen Alban: The novel coronavirus that's circulating right now is similar to the flu in the sense that it can cause symptoms that are very similar to the flu.
--:-- Owen Alban: So it causes fevers.
--:-- Owen Alban: It can cause lots of chills and muscle aches.
--:-- Owen Alban: It can cause people to feel really, really crummy and tired.
--:-- Owen Alban: And in a minority of cases, it can cause a bad infection of the lungs, which makes it difficult for people to breathe.
--:-- Owen Alban: The difference between the coronavirus and the flu, though, is that the coronavirus appears to be more lethal.
--:-- Owen Alban: The coronavirus also appears to spread between people more easily than the flu does.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: I keep getting texts and emails from my older family members saying that if you keep your throat wet, you can't get COVID-19.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: They are not doctors. You are.
--:-- Owen Alban: Can you avoid the Rona if you keep your throat wet?
--:-- Owen Alban: And if not, where should people be getting good information in a sea of gross speculation?
--:-- Owen Alban: So for the first part of the question, the answer is no.
--:-- Owen Alban: That's kind of an urban legend.
--:-- Owen Alban: Viruses are kind of like little spaceships.
--:-- Owen Alban: They dock onto the cells in your throat often.
--:-- Owen Alban: And so once they're inside, they start replicating, and they're going to keep replicating inside of cells.
--:-- Owen Alban: So gargling really anything in the back of your throat is really not going to get rid of the virus that's already inside of your cell.
--:-- Owen Alban: In terms of what the most trusted sources of information are, if you're looking for something online, really anything that the CDC puts out, that's probably the best source of information in the United States.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Doc, I asked Hillary how we can keep grocery store workers safe.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: How are health care workers like you staying safe?
--:-- Owen Alban: We're kind of doing the same thing that everyone else is doing.
--:-- Owen Alban: We're trying to be careful about who and how close we get to.
--:-- Owen Alban: That's often not possible in the medical field because you need to be fairly intimate, for lack of a better word, when it comes to examining people and taking care of them.
--:-- Owen Alban: So we're really trying to use appropriate personal protective equipment as much as possible.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thank you for your work, seriously.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And I want to let you get back to it.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: But one last important question before I let you go.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And this one might not be appropriate for the kids in the room, parents.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: It comes from Michael Smith, who emailed us.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Can someone explain if you can contract coronavirus through sex?
--:-- Owen Alban: No, not in the traditional sense.
--:-- Owen Alban: There's not evidence right now that the coronavirus can be passed sexually in the way that you might think a sexually transmitted disease is.
--:-- Owen Alban: However, you know, sexual intercourse often involves very close personal contact.
--:-- Owen Alban: Chances are that you're going to be exchanging respiratory droplets having sexual intercourse.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Is there anything sexier than respiratory droplets?
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: I know what you're thinking though.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: What happened to Michael Smith at Burger King?
--:-- Owen Alban: I asked him.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: He did not answer.
--:-- Liz Nelson: But the editorial director of Vox Podcasts, I have a theory.
--:-- Liz Nelson: Nothing happened to Michael Smith at Burger King.
--:-- Liz Nelson: He was just making a reference to the Humpty Dance by Digital Underground.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: In my defense, I was five when this song came out, so I'm going to give myself a pass for missing the reference.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: More of your questions after the break.
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--:-- Sean Rameswaram: I'm Sean Rameswaram from You Know What We Haven't Talked About in a While? The election.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Tulsi Gabbard somehow dropped out of the race yesterday.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So now it's even more so officially three super old guys running for the big job, which begs the question, what happens if one of them gets COVID-19?
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Listener Linda emailed to ask, what if one of them dies?
--:-- Ella Nelson: So the answer is much clearer on the Republican side than the Democratic side, because obviously we already have a Republican incumbent president as well as a vice president who are already in place.
--:-- Ella Nelson: So in the event that, say, you know, Trump got coronavirus or otherwise became unable to accept the Republican nomination, it could theoretically go to Mike Pence.
--:-- Ella Nelson: And the Democrats? If a nominee were to get coronavirus before the Democratic National Convention takes place and the convention proceeds as normal, you know, delegates aren't necessarily bound to any particular candidate.
--:-- Ella Nelson: So the delegates at the convention could potentially negotiate and debate over potential alternative nominees.
--:-- Ella Nelson: And then the majority at the convention could sort of choose who they want as the nominee going forward.
--:-- Ella Nelson: But if a nominated candidate is to die after a convention, the DNC would consult with high-level members of Congress.
--:-- Ella Nelson: They would consult with other high-level members of the Democratic Party, like governors, the Democratic Governors Association.
--:-- Ella Nelson: And there would be a group that would come together within the DNC to sort of choose who the nominee would be going forward.
--:-- Ella Nelson: And it's really important to note that this wouldn't necessarily be the Democratic vice presidential pick.
--:-- Ella Nelson: It certainly could be, but the DNC would have sort of more latitude to get together, kind of confer among everybody and then ultimately choose a replacement nominee.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Another related question we got from Ray in Australia was, should the presidential election even really go ahead?
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: He wrote about concerns about community spread at the polls in November and a concern that Russia could get even more hacky if we all went e-voting.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: I think at this point it's way too far off to say that the election is going to be canceled.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And I think that if people were putting that out there, you know, it could be, you know, a big kind of constitutional crisis or a crisis of democracy.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: I think that instead people are focusing on ways that we can make sure that the election continues, but to have contingencies in place like vote by mail so that people can still cast their ballots, but not necessarily have to do it in a physical polling place.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Katie from the Bronx tweeted with a question that didn't used to be political, but has become so recently.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: How is the coronavirus outbreak going to affect the collection of the census?
--:-- Hansi Luang: I'm a national correspondent for NPR covering the people, power, and money behind the 2020 census.
--:-- Hansi Luang: And the coronavirus outbreak is definitely affecting the national headcount.
--:-- Hansi Luang: The Census Bureau has postponed until April 1st all field operations, meaning that training sessions for door knockers is postponed.
--:-- Hansi Luang: The count of people experiencing homelessness and living in shelters or living outdoors, that has been postponed.
--:-- Hansi Luang: So has door knocking in some American Indian tribal territories, as well as an operation that would involve workers leaving paper forms outside of homes in Puerto Rico and other areas recovering from natural disasters.
--:-- Hansi Luang: All that in-person activity on hold for the next two weeks, and that does resolve uncertainty about how the Bureau is protecting its workers, but it throws off a very tight schedule to try to meet this constitutional mandate to get every person living in the U.S. counted this year.
--:-- Hansi Luang: And the Bureau right now is emphasizing that it needs the public's help and needs as many people as possible to fill out a census form on their own, either online at my2020census.gov by calling a toll-free number or mailing back a paper form if they receive one, because the key here is that the more households that fill out a form themselves now, the less pressure on the Bureau to try to bring on board hundreds of thousands of workers during a public health crisis.
--:-- Hansi Luang: The census already had a host of challenges to getting a good count.
--:-- Hansi Luang: The coronavirus exacerbates a lot of those challenges.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: The census already had a host of challenges to getting a good count.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: The coronavirus exacerbates a lot of those challenges.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That toll-free number for the census, by the way, is 844-330-2020.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Again, 844-330-2020.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: If you go to the site, you can find numbers in about 15 other languages too.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Hours of operation are 7 a.m. to 2 a.m. Eastern.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: While we're exchanging phone numbers, here's another one.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: We set up a voicemail operation for today explained listener questions at 202-688-5944.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: If you want to get your voice on the show, hit that number and we might feature you in the future.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Again, it's 202-688-5944.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Keep in touch.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: This last question's a question that I had, and maybe it's a question that you have too.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: How can I help?
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: I know people who are losing their jobs.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: There are many many more people who are doing even worse than that.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: People are sick.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: People are dying.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: What can one of us do in this moment if we are hurting that badly?
--:-- Dylan Matthews: I should say first off that just like we don't know much about how this crisis is going to go in general, we don't know much about the best ways to help people yet.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: Yeah, actually, when writing up this sort of prep for this show, I wrote, don't know where we get the answer to this one.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: God? God or Dylan down the hall? fill in um so yeah so if you want to help people i think the main thing to do is stay inside and obey social distancing rules
--:-- Dylan Matthews: I know that sounds really cliche and you've probably heard it a million times but it's really really important
--:-- Dylan Matthews: A good rule of thumb is that if you give to really effective charities that do really important health work you can maybe save a human life for every two or three thousand dollars you spend and that's really good that's that's a really good bang for your buck
--:-- Dylan Matthews: And with COVID-19, social distancing is cheaper.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: You can save a human life just by not infecting people.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: You can save a human life by assuming that you're a passive carrier and staying inside, not being in crowded groups where you're at risk of transmitting and helping vulnerable people not get infected.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: But I think a lot of people who are social distancing? Like, should they be giving blood?
--:-- Dylan Matthews: Should they be buying groceries and delivering them to the elderly who maybe are incapacitated or maybe are scared to go out right now because they might get sick?
--:-- Dylan Matthews: Giving blood is always good.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: I think if you have community groups in your area, like Meals on Wheels, that are doing grocery delivery or other services for people who can't go out or who might not be physically mobile, that's a great thing that you can be doing.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: If you're interested in giving to people who are suffering from coronavirus with money, if you're, say, anticipating the checks that the Trump administration is going to be sending out probably in a few weeks, and you think, hey, I don't really need this check, maybe this check should go to someone who needs it a little more than I do, one thing you can do is donate to the group GiveDirectly.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: So this is a group I've covered for many years.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: I think they do great work, and they specialize in giving cash to people who need it.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: Historically that's mostly meant people in really desperately poor areas of sub-Saharan Africa.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: Now GiveDirectly is starting to do cash transfers in the United States as coronavirus response.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: This is a new thing for them, but I think it's inspired by that same intuition that if you have money and if you get a check and you don't need it, it should go to someone who does need it.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Can I add one thing, Dylan? Please do.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: I just want to stress that kindness can be contagious in these moments where we're all struggling in this thing together.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: I mean, I go to the grocery store in DC, there was a lady behind me with a big hot pizza that she was clearly trying to take to some hungry kids somewhere.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: So I just said, hey, go ahead of me, you just have one pizza.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: And then it like had this domino effect where the lady in front of me was like, yeah, go in front of me too.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: And then all of a sudden, she's at the front of the line, and she got to get out and take that pizza to her hungry kids.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: And meanwhile, I talked to my friends in New York City and they say like the grocery store is a nightmare.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: People are mean.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: People are pushy.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: People are forgetting each other's humanity.
--:-- Dylan Matthews: And I just want to stress that a little act of kindness can go a long way in moments like these.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: For sure.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: I always like the David Foster Wallace line that you have a choice when you're on the road to assume that the guy who cut you off is a horrible, horrible person or to think maybe he had a reason for doing that and I don't really understand what he's going through.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And when you're interacting with people at the grocery store or trying to get a test for yourself in the waiting room in an ER, just assume that other people are going through things too, that you have a choice to assume the worst or assume the best of them.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And we're all going to get through this better if we assume the best of each other.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: You need to stay six feet away, Six feet away.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Today Explained is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: The team is well over six feet away from each other right now.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: We're putting this podcast together remotely from our homes in and around Washington, D.C.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: The team includes Halima Shah, Bridget McCarthy, Amina Alsadi, and Jillian Weinberger, who all did a ton of work to help me answer these questions today.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Afim, the Dream Shapiro, has the nightmare job of making our show sound good, even though none of us are using studios anymore.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Not me, not any of our guests.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Thank you so much, Afim.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Cecilia Lay is checking facts from San Francisco and couldn't be more ready for the weekend's new album.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: It dropped today.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: The mysterious Breakmaster Cylinder would like all the partying spring breaker bros in Florida to just stop already.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And Noam Hassenfeld wrote Six Feet Away, which is gonna win the Grammy.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Six feet away, six feet away.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Big, big special thanks to Alison Rocky, Liz Nelson, Lauren Katz, and Joss Fong for all their help with the song.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: If you're looking for fun, quarantine things to do this weekend or in the coming weeks, make a cover or do the dance.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Find the original video and song at vox.com slash today explained.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And don't forget to share your versions using the hashtag six feet away song.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: The one you're hearing right now is from Owen Plant, who posted it almost immediately after we published the song last night.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: We were all astonished on the team, Owen.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Thank you.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: We love it.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: You can find lots of music from Owen on YouTube.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Just search for Owen like Owen and Plant like Philodendron.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Six feet away.
