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--:-- Host: E. Martinez: New details fill out an incident at Arlington National Cemetery. Former President Trump denies everything. It was totally false. So NPR has named two campaign staffers who had a physical altercation with a cemetery employee.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: I'm E. Martinez with Steve Inskeep and this is Up First from NPR News. Prosecutors filed charges against the father of a 14-year-old accused of a mass shooting. These charges stem from Mr. Gray knowingly allowing his son to possess a weapon. The news comes as Georgia debates firearm storage legislation what's on the table. Also, what can the latest jobs report tell us about the state of the U.S. economy? And many people watching include leaders of the Federal Reserve, which makes a decision soon on interest rates. Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day. This message comes from NPR sponsor, Adobe. Introducing the all-new Adobe Acrobat Studio, now with AI-powered PDF spaces.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: We have new information today about an altercation at Arlington National Cemetery. Yeah, this is the incident where staff for former President Donald Trump had a verbal and physical confrontation with a cemetery employee. The employee was trying to enforce the rules about photography on hallowed ground. Now, until recently, it seemed this incident is over. NPR first reported it, then both the U.S. Army and the Trump campaign acknowledged it. But this week, Trump began saying it never happened. Now, NPR has identified the names of the two Trump aides who were involved.
--:-- Guest: Stephen Fowler: Good morning. Good morning. Okay, what are the names? So, according to two NPR sources familiar with the incident, Trump Deputy Campaign Manager Justin Caporale and Advanced Staffer Michelle Picard are the ones who got into that verbal and physical altercation with the Arlington Cemetery staffer.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: That staffer was trying to stop campaign photographers from accompanying Trump to the grave sites in Section 60 because the campaign was told ahead of time that only cemetery photography was allowed by an official photographer and federal law prevents using cemeteries as any sort of campaign tool. The Army says that staffer did not want to escalate the situation at the time out of respect for grieving families and has declined to press charges. We're putting those names out there because of the conflicting answers that the campaign has given about what happened.
--:-- Guest: Stephen Fowler: Oh, yeah, I'm remembering that at the beginning they acknowledged that something happened, although they disputed exactly what. They made accusations about the cemetery employee, and they claimed the campaign did that they were going to release video evidence to prove their side of the story. Haven seen the video, well, they still haven't released it.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: When our colleagues Quill Lawrence and Tom Bowman first broke the story, they reported the campaign made antagonistic remarks about the staffer. They accused the staffer of having a mental health episode, the campaign did. When the Army statement said it happened and considered the matter closed, the campaign said they did too. Until Trump started posting. Earlier this week, he said on his Truth Social site that, quote, there was no conflict or fighting at Arlington National Cemetery last week. It was a made-up story. He also went on Sean Hannity's radio show to reiterate that false assertion that nothing happened. He questioned the motives of that cemetery employee and downplayed the accusations as attacks over, quote, publicity.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: Now, the nice thing, the beautiful thing was all the parents and relatives got together and they said, that's a false story. It was totally false. It's not false. And it's also not a one off of this conflict between reality and the reality that Trump creates.
--:-- Guest: Stephen Fowler: Well, there's been several examples of Trump going rogue and saying something that then is different than the campaign's official stance. Take Florida's abortion measure last week, where it seemed like Trump supported it. Then the campaign said Trump had no position on it. And Trump quickly did an interview that say he actually opposed it. Even next week's debate, which his campaign agreed to, he now says it won't be fair and that Vice President Harris is somehow going to cheat.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: This story isn't likely to sway any voters' opinions on Trump, but it does tell us something important. In a time when voters are about to cast ballots, Harris has erased Trump's summer polling lead, and every headline in every day counts, stuff like this muddies the water and shows that the campaign might not be rowing in the same direction as Trump.
--:-- Guest: Stephen Fowler: And Pierre, Stephen Fowler, thanks for the update.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: Some other news now. The father of a 14-year-old charged with killing four people at a Georgia high school now faces criminal charges of his own.
--:-- Guest: Chris Hosey: Four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder, and eight counts of cruelty to children. These charges stem from Mr. Gray knowingly allowing his son to possess a weapon.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: 54-year-old Colin Gray has been arrested and his son is scheduled to appear in court today.
--:-- Guest: Sam Greenglass: Hey, Steve. I got to tell you, it's like a fresh wave of pain when you hear that a parent was charged in this situation. What makes authorities say the father was responsible?
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: Investigators announced these charges as a vigil went on around the school flagpole nearby, but they've offered few details. These charges against the father for knowingly allowing his son to possess a weapon suggest investigators are honing in on whether the 14-year-old should have had access to a firearm.
--:-- Guest: Sam Greenglass: This is a significant development because earlier this year, juries found the parents of a school shooter in Michigan guilty on four counts of involuntary manslaughter, a ruling Steve that thought to be unprecedented. And now that same thinking seems to be applied here from the limited evidence that we know.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: We did have some information about weapons and what people said about weapons. I'm remembering earlier this week, we found out that in 2023, law enforcement visited the family home. They noticed guns were there, but the father told them then the son didn't have unsupervised access.
--:-- Guest: Sam Greenglass: So those are the facts as we know them. How is that influencing the debate over guns in Georgia?
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: Well, weeks ago, lawmakers had scheduled a hearing on safe firearm storage. And yesterday, it went on as planned the day after this shooting. And Steve, the testimony got pretty emotional as a police chief, a pediatric nurse, and a tearful parent encouraged lawmakers to take action.
--:-- Guest: Sam Greenglass: Action like incentivizing the use of gun safes, but also making it a criminal offense when adults don't lock up weapons that kids get a hold of. But these proposals stalled in the Republican-controlled legislature this year, and Democratic State Rep Michelle Au wonders if legislation could have stopped this tragedy.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: To see a preventable harm that we had an opportunity to act on and we didn't is really something that doesn't just keep me up at night, but I wonder if it keeps my colleagues up at night.
--:-- Guest: Sam Greenglass: In recent years, Georgia Republicans have proudly loosened gun laws, but they did pass a law this year mandating school safety plans and active shooter drills. Republican State Senator Frank Gin's district includes Apalachee High School. And like other Republicans, he's prioritized hardening schools and mental health over changing gun laws.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: This sits closer to me than anything in the world. This is in my Senate district. The nut that I haven't been able to crack is, how do we get to these youngsters that are going into schools and shooting them up?
--:-- Guest: Sam Greenglass: So the question now, will a tragedy so close to home shift how Georgia deals with gun violence?
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: Sam Greenglass of WABE in Georgia, thanks so much for your reporting.
--:-- Guest: Sam Greenglass: Thanks, Steve.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: Okay, a lot of investors and economists will be holding their breath this morning when the August jobs numbers are released. That monthly report is always closely watched, but today the stakes are particularly high at a time when both the economy and the Federal Reserve are shifting gears.
--:-- Guest: Scott Horsley: Well, you might remember July's jobs report came in weaker than expected. Hiring slowed sharply. The unemployment rate jumped to 4.3%. That rattled people. Some took it as a warning sign. The recession might be around the corner. There was a temporary sell-off in the stock market.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: So with today's report, we're going to be looking to see, was that a fluke or the beginning of a more ominous trend? Most observers do think the job market is slowing down, but maybe not quite as much as that week July report would have suggested.
--:-- Guest: Scott Horsley: Forecasters are projecting a little bit of a rebound in hiring in August with about 160,000 jobs added during the month. That would be respectable, but certainly slower job growth than we were seeing earlier in the year.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: Okay, what's behind that slowdown, assuming it is a slowdown? Well, part of it is the high interest rates that the Federal Reserve has imposed in order to get control over inflation. Those high rates make it more expensive to borrow money for big-ticket items, and so that weighed on some parts of the economy like manufacturing.
--:-- Guest: Scott Horsley: A survey of factory managers out this week also found a fair amount of uncertainty over the upcoming election. And when businesses are uncertain they might be less likely to bring on new workers.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: The good news is so far we're not seeing a lot of layoffs. For the most part, employers are holding on to the workers they already have. And most workers are also staying put, unlike a few years ago when people were quitting jobs in droves, often in search of better jobs.
--:-- Guest: Scott Horsley: Today, economist Neela Richardson, who's at the payroll processing company ADP, says there's just a lot less churn in the job market. Turnover is quite low. What does that mean? People are staying in their jobs. They're not quitting. They're not in the great resignation. And so there's less need to hire.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: So this is still a pretty good job market for people who already have jobs. For those who are just coming into the workforce, though, it might take longer to find a job. There aren't as many help wanted signs out there. And in fact, the number of job openings has dropped back to the lowest level in more than three and a half years.
--:-- Guest: Scott Horsley: Really interesting. So the great resignation is over. And I guess people have gone back to quiet quitting. That's the great hunker down. Exactly. Just stay in the job a little bit longer and see how it works out.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: How does this news, whatever it turns out to be, affect the Fed's thinking? Fed policymakers are set to meet the week after next. And they've signaled pretty clearly that they're going to start cutting interest rates at that time.
--:-- Guest: Scott Horsley: And Fed Chairman Jerome Powell says he and his colleagues are no longer as worried as they had been about rising prices. Inflation looks like it's settling down. Now they're more concerned about rising unemployment, and they'd like to head that off.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: We do not seek or welcome further cooling in labor market conditions. What we don't know yet is whether the Fed's going to start small with a quarter-point rate cut or go big and cut rates by half a percentage point.
--:-- Guest: Scott Horsley: And a lot is riding on today's jobs report. If, as expected, the unemployment rate ticks down a little bit, that might give the Fed leeway to go with a smaller rate cut in a couple weeks. On the other hand, if today's report shows more weakness in the job market, then look for the Fed to be more aggressive and perhaps go with the larger rate cut.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: I'm enjoying Jerome Powell's phrasing there, Scott. We do not seek or welcome further cooling. It's like I really don't need this guest to come over right now.
--:-- Guest: Scott Horsley: Exactly.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: NPR's Scott Horsley, thanks.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: You're welcome. And that's Up First for this Friday, September 6th. I'm Stephen Skeep. And I'm Ian Martinez. Don't forget, Up First airs on the weekend, too. Ayesha Roscoe and Scott Simon have the news, and you can also check out NPR's Consider This podcast. You can find it right here in this feed or wherever you get those podcasts.
--:-- Host: E. Martinez: Today's Up First was edited by Megan Pratt, Susanna Capilouto, Rafael Nam, Mohamed Elbardisi, and Alice Wolfley. It was produced by Ziad Butch, Nia Dumas, and Lindsay Totti, and we get engineering support from Phil Edfors. Our technical director is Carly Strange.
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