--:-- Nick Mars: This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Nick Mars and at 13 Hours GMT on Friday the 8th of August, these are our main stories.
--:-- President Trump: Israel's security cabinet has given the go-ahead for a military takeover of Gaza City. President Trump has declined to say whether today's deadline for Russia to agree a ceasefire in Ukraine still holds, in light of a possible meeting with Vladimir Putin.
--:-- Nick Mars: Also in this podcast, an Australian woman who murdered three of her relatives with a meal of deadly mushrooms had allegedly tried to poison her husband several times.
--:-- Katie Watson: These are three attempted murder charges in connection with Simon Patterson, her estranged husband. They were dropped on the eve of the lunch trial. The jury was told they were dropped, that they were against her husband and they needed to be ignored.
--:-- Nick Mars: And astronomers using NASA's James Webb Space Telescope have found compelling evidence of a giant new planet.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time. The hostages, well, Netanyahu said it's going to be about a four-month operation.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: Israel's security cabinet has approved plans for a major expansion of the war against Hamas with the takeover of Gaza City. The aims include the disarmament of Hamas, the return of all hostages and the establishment of an alternative civilian administration.
--:-- Rushdie Abu Alouf: The people believe that they are playing in words, but in fact they are going to reoccupied Gaza. And for the new generation who don't know what's the meaning of a full occupation, the old generation and the middle generation, they understand what the full occupation means.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Lucy Gray: I must admit, I myself try to think what can be the reason behind it, which would be make any rational decision. And I think, one, it might be just a burning ship in negotiation with Hamas and not going to do that. But this is not very likely.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party. He's in favour of the plans to take control of Gaza City and despite the dangers, he says the alternative could be worse.
--:-- Michael Kleiner: Ending this war, ending the misery of the hostages, which, you know, they are endangered maybe by this operation. They will be endangered, but they're endangered also by the existing current situation.
--:-- Nick Mars: Professor Yossi Mikkelberg is from the Mid-East and North Africa programme at Chatham House in London. He gave Lucy Gray his assessment of the plan.
--:-- Professor Yossi Mikkelberg: I don't think about any redeeming aspects of this plan. It's not very different from what Israel has done in the last 22 months, but it only will exacerbate an already disastrous situation because it's about entering in a highly populous city and what might be the end result of it.
--:-- Nick Mars: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said his ultimate aim was the occupation of the whole of the Gaza Strip.
--:-- Nick Mars: The latest proposal has been widely condemned by the Israeli opposition and military leaders and the German government has announced it will not approve any exports to Israel of military equipment that could be used in the Gaza Strip until further notice.
--:-- Nick Mars: Yehuda Cohen is the father of one of the remaining Israeli hostages there, Nimrod Cohen. He's against the plan.
--:-- Yehuda Cohen: It's obvious that it's endangering my son, endangering the other living hostages. And beyond the fact that it's endangering hostages, it's tolling time.
--:-- Nick Mars: Michael Kleiner is a senior member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party.
