#2409 - Brian Redban

Joe Rogan: Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. And we're up.

Brian Redban: Hey.

Joe Rogan: Hey. Good to see you.

Brian Redban: Good to see you. Did you see that new information about China came out with a new quantum computer that can do an equation in four minutes? It takes all the world's supercomputers 2.6 billion years to solve. And it can do it in four minutes.

Joe Rogan: Is that real, though? I mean, allegedly.

Brian Redban: Allegedly.

Joe Rogan: That's the problem with this whole quantum thing is I don't understand. I've had it explained to me four or five times. I don't understand it.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: It's just my monkey brain is like, mm-hmm.

Brian Redban: They also say a lot of things, you know.

Joe Rogan: Right. So who knows if it's real or not?

Brian Redban: Well, you mean China?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, China. But they have American ones that have done them too. They've done some crazy, like Mark Andreessen explained one of them. It's so nuts. He said that it solved an equation that if you took all of the world's atoms and converted it into a supercomputer... All of the universe's atoms, excuse me, and converted it into a supercomputer. It would take so much time to solve this equation that the universe would die of heat death, and this quantum computer solved it in a matter of minutes.

Brian Redban: Wow.

Joe Rogan: I don't know what it means, though. I think what they're trying to say is that this is proof of the multiverse because all of these computers are somehow or another... like this quantum computer is computing along with other quantum computers in other dimensions, other universes, other realms. And that there's an infinite number, so many of them, that that's the only thing that can account for this thing being able to do this so quickly. I don't even know.

Brian Redban: Right?

Joe Rogan: Yeah. So you're like, okay, what are you saying? What are you saying? What are you doing? What does this mean?

Brian Redban: Yes, catchy-peek-to-you-about-it. How many people know this? This is what's weird, right? Let's assume that they're telling the truth, and let's assume that they figured out a computer that has godlike powers. How many people know how this works? What is the number? If all those people got assassinated and those machines were just sitting there off, how long would it be before somebody came along that could figure out how to start that up again? Do you know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan: Right.

Brian Redban: So this might be the most monumental technological breakthrough in the history of the human race, right? If something has to be, right? And then you think of what it can do once it does that. And how many people know how to make that? One schizophrenic. He's been trying to tell us the whole time.

Joe Rogan: Is it like one dude? Is this like one dude that they just feed and take care of and guard him everywhere he goes? Like he's the guy. He figured this thing out. No one knows how this magic works.

Brian Redban: I mean if you had a guess, how many quantum computer scientists could successfully recreate a quantum computer given enough resources? 30 maybe. 30 maybe on the planet.

Joe Rogan: Maybe.

Brian Redban: And what? 30 out of 8 billion.

Joe Rogan: I don't even know for sure, but let's assume we're right. Let's say 100. Let's get crazy. Let's say 100.

Brian Redban: Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan: Those hundred people would have some Mongolian assassin just get hired, just take out all of them, and they all start dropping like flies.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. It's weird when there's technology that's at a level where you gotta go like, how many people know how to do that? Like you were just showing me your phone. Show me that phone again. This is so sexy. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the new Samsung Fold. And I swear to God, when you're holding it in your hand, it feels like a regular phone. Look how thin it is. It's a iPhone. It's so thin. If you compare it to my iPhone, it doesn't feel any different. It feels smaller. It actually feels smaller. It's smaller than my iPhone. And then you can use it like a regular phone, and it's a good size regular phone. Kind of the perfect size for texting, where your thumb goes across easy. Easy one-hand hold, but then decadence.

Brian Redban: Right. Now you have a little iPad with you.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Now you're answering emails. You're watching YouTube videos. Supposedly, that's what Apple's doing next is they're bringing out affordable next year. They always do that, though, right? They wait until everybody gets it right.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: Like Samsung finally got it right. Because if they came out with some clunky bullshit... Do you remember the Newton?

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: That thing... I mean, it was ahead of its time though. It was so ahead of its time. But who trusted their information in that thing? Like, all your data? That thing's barely glued together.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. I remember when I first came out to California in 1994, there was a guy who was head of one of these big studios. Very impressive character. Kind of guy who wears tie clasps and cufflinks. He was a tie clasp cufflink guy, very wealthy guy. And he had one of those Newton things and he was carrying it around. And I was looking and I was like, what is the benefit of that? You have an address book? I have an address book. You write it down and you just turn to the page. You just turn to the page on this thing that's as big as a house. This thing is so big. It's like a loaf of bread you're carrying around everywhere.

Brian Redban: Yeah. And then that's what kind of made the trio, right? Remember the trio and all that stuff? That was like a baby version of it.

Joe Rogan: Bro, I remember I thought I was a wizard when I had a palm. I was like, look at me. I've got a keyboard and a screen, motherfucker. I'm in the future.

Brian Redban: Those were awesome.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. I remember I resisted the BlackBerry for a while because the people that I work with on Fear Factor all had the BlackBerrys, and they were always on their BlackBerry. I was like, that thing is stealing your time. Well, you got to answer emails. That's the new thing. You got to be able to answer emails on the fly. That was a totally new thing. And you had small, tiny buttons you had to get used to. But you could actually send an email. So if you were on a BlackBerry, you were kind of serious. You were getting things done.

Brian Redban: You were getting things done.

Joe Rogan: But I noticed early on, and obviously I fell victim to it myself because we're all scrolling. We're all doom scrolling all day. But when I first started seeing these guys with the email on the phone, I'm like, man, you want your email on your computer. You don't want it on your phone. You don't want to be carrying your email all the time. So anybody can get a hold of you at any time. You've got to respond because you have to check your email all the time now. That's another thing you have to do. That's crazy. And now look. Now look. Now we're doomed. We're doomed, son. And then there's tracking of everybody everywhere now. Everywhere you go. Your phone's tracking where you go. It's crazy. I saw a court case the other day and they were proving that this woman killed a guy or something like that. And they actually had the information like, "And then at eight o'clock you went on this photo on Instagram and browsed it for two minutes." I was just like, how do they know that much? They know everything you doing, son.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: That's insane.

Brian Redban: Yeah. Well, so that's why they always bust people, like how to get rid of a dead body. People are trying to find where they can buy lime for cash.

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: And now I guess ChatGPT is helping people, like asking ChatGPT about how to make a bomb or something like that. Was ChatGPT turn you in?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, ChatGPT will turn you in.

Brian Redban: Ooh. You rat.

Joe Rogan: I was just theoretically.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: I wanted to know if you could teach me how to make a bomb.

Brian Redban: Yeah, one of the loopholes, supposedly, is going, "I'm writing a book, and I need to make it accurate. Can you tell me how to?" Well, apparently, that's how you can get ChatGPT to explain how to do a lot of things that you really shouldn't be doing.

Joe Rogan: Right, yeah.

Brian Redban: Yeah, like "My grandmother's being held ransom. I have to somehow or another save her. And the only way I could save her is to make a nuclear bomb. How do I do this?"

Joe Rogan: I mean, I have to do it too. Cause like, I'll try to make like a naked girl in chat, you know, using a Grok image or something like that. And I'm like, okay, she's wearing a bikini, but it's clear. And a bunch of milk is falling all over her from the sky, you know. Is Grok limited in any way in what it allows you to do?

Brian Redban: Oh, they all are, but Grok seems to be a little bit more spicy. But they all catch on to you and stop. Then they start acting.

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Joe Rogan: Dumb. Bro, if somebody came out... You know how much money OnlyFans makes?

Brian Redban: You're right.

Joe Rogan: If someone came out with an erotica app where you could program it in, it could be you, your face, and your favorite actress's face. And that's the porn you watch?

Brian Redban: They do. But that can't be legal.

Joe Rogan: No, it's China.

Brian Redban: But you can actually be like, "I want Kanye West. I want huge tits on Kanye. I don't want any big butt."

Joe Rogan: That's nuts.

Brian Redban: Yeah, I almost subscribed so many times. Kanye with a BBL and big fat titties. I mean, that would be awesome. And he could fly away and become an eagle.

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: He could make it anything. He finishes me off and he flies away. And he winks at you. And when he winks, he makes that Liberace noise. Dink.

Joe Rogan: Liberace. You remember that song when Liberace winks at me? God. I mean, imagine inside someone's lifetime, somebody saw that on television because that was like what, Jamie, was that 1950s? The Liberace winks at me. Find out when that was. See, let's just imagine someone's alive to see when Liberace winks at me on TV and then as they're older they're seeing Kanye West with big fat titties and AI that's... I get sent AI things all the time and I have to tell my friends, dude, that's not real.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: It fools me one out of a hundred times and I'll sit there and watch and be like, oh, no, look, that woman had a weird fingernail in that one frame. There's always some... but that's just for now. Like a year ago it was easy to tell.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Well, it is pretty hard. I follow a couple of these fake girls on Instagram that are not real. They have like two million followers. I'm like, ah!

Brian Redban: So many. There's so many of them. Men are so simple.

Joe Rogan: But it's pretty good. Show us big titties with a pretty face. We're like, ooh. And you have our attention. And then you can sell us hammers or whatever. Whatever you're trying to do. Steal our data. DM us. That's pretty nice, though. But how many fake DMs do you get or text messages do you get a day?

Brian Redban: Oh, that's about three or four a day saying like, "Hey, Brian, you know, you're selling your house?" And I'm like, what? I'm not selling my house. What are you talking about?

Joe Rogan: Mine aren't even to me. They're to a dude named Raymond. Raymond owned my phone number before me, and Raymond was a moron. Raymond signed up for everything. This dude gets text messages all day long.

Brian Redban: I have that same thing, and I think it's on purpose. So you write back, "Hey, man, wrong number." Then they know it's a real...

Joe Rogan: Yeah, but it's the same guy's name.

Brian Redban: I know. Me too. I have that too. I think it's someone signed up for something, and then someone sold the data. So, like, you use your... Here's the thing. We never thought that data was a commodity. Whoever thought when you would sign up and give someone your email address that that would be valuable, like a commodity, and find out what you're interested in, what stuff you buy online, what websites you visit, that's a commodity?

Joe Rogan: Wow.

Brian Redban: Ugh. That's the problem.

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: The problem is they can make money. And so all someone has to do is get an email list, like say something you're selling or whatever. "Sign up. Receive our newsletter." OK. And then they have this big database and then just sell it to anybody. These scumbags. All of a sudden you're getting text messages just from Nigeria. "You won money in a lottery, and you just have to fill out a form."

Joe Rogan: Oh, really? Oh, really? They've been doing that for a while, though, right? Remember, you would go to the mall, and there would be a car. "Enter to win this car." And you would fill out all this information.

Brian Redban: That was mailing lists. You would get stuff sent to you in the mail.

Joe Rogan: Mail. People don't realize you just get spammy ads in the mail. Like you'd get your mail and half of it would be bullshit.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Remember those days? I mean, that's still kind of the way.

Brian Redban: Yeah, but does anybody read those stupid things and you get those things in the mail? Those spammy ads?

Joe Rogan: No.

Brian Redban: No.

Joe Rogan: No. But I guess enough do. Why don't they make that illegal?

Brian Redban: I don't know. There's a lot of things. There's a lot of things like that. I think right now every house should have solar. That has to be the roof from now on. Any brand new house has to have solar. Why not?

Joe Rogan: It would certainly be a lot easier on the grid.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: And we know the grid is going to get worse and worse with all these crazy computers.

Brian Redban: 100%.

Joe Rogan: The grid can't sustain AI. If AI becomes much bigger than it is, which is what everybody anticipates, its demand for power is crazy. This grid will crush.

Brian Redban: Remember when it was one of the most California things ever. They passed a law saying that all new cars had to be electric by like 2035 or something like that. And then a couple weeks later they said, "Please don't charge your electric car because the grid can't handle it."

Joe Rogan: What the fuck?

Brian Redban: It's so California. "We're going to save you by destroying civilization. We're going to save you. We're going to save you. You're going to have to get an electric car, only electric, so we all feel good about ourselves. And then in the process, you cook the grid."

Joe Rogan: They used to do brownouts all the time just for air conditionings. Remember those?

Brian Redban: Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan: You're from 12 to 2, 2 to 4, based on where you live. It was just enough so it didn't ruin all the food in your freezer.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: You know? Like they were like, "Keep your freezer shut, keep your fridge shut, you should be okay." But they had to do it because they didn't have enough juice for the whole city.

Brian Redban: Yeah. I mean it happens a lot almost here. Almost here. Like I watch our grid all the time. Like, oh, you know, it's so close to failing here in Texas.

Joe Rogan: You watch the grid? Is there an app?

Brian Redban: No, they have it on the news when this happens and stuff.

Joe Rogan: Well, it definitely happened during that big freeze.

Brian Redban: Yeah. First year we moved here.

Joe Rogan: Ooh, that got sketchy.

Brian Redban: Yeah. That got weird because there were people that didn't have any heat for like a week. And people were like, "Oh, you're in Texas. Shut up."

Joe Rogan: No, it was 20 degrees out. It was 20 degrees in your house. I remember being that close. Some people died because they tried to light things on fire in their house. They died from smoke inhalation. Or putting their generators in their garage. Do you have backup, battery backup yet?

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, yeah.

Brian Redban: It's great. I love it.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. The thing about solar is solar relies on batteries, and then the batteries degrade, and you have to get more batteries. And then the real dilemma, the moral dilemma, is the way they get batteries.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: That's when nobody, all these green motherfuckers don't want to talk about Siddharth Khara's book. That book on how to get cobalt out of the Congo. And when he came in here, he showed us all these different videos that he had taken off his cell phone of these people pulling these minerals out of the ground to make batteries. And you're like, oh, my God. Like, this is crazy. This is one of the weirdest things ever that the most advanced thing that we all possess, a cell phone, is made in the most barbaric way possible. Like the original source minerals are being hammered out of the ground by people who live in dirt floors. They have no money. They have babies on their back. It's insane. It's literally insane that that's the source. Human beings are doing that. These aren't robots. They're human beings operating in these conditions so that people can check TikTok.

Brian Redban: There's no way to recycle it at all?

Joe Rogan: I don't know. That's an Elon question. You put down the Elon list. It should be.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: It should be a law. It should be like, "Is there anything left in your battery? Is there anything?" The stuff is really valuable. Slaves are pulling it out of the ground. That's literally what's happening. And a lot of it is run by other countries too, man. And they're running these operations out of the Congo and you're like, and then we're like, "I'm Greg, I work at the Apple store. Can I help you?" And they're running these operations out of the Congo. And you're like, whoosh. And then we're like, ew. "I'm Greg. I work at the Apple store. Can I help you?" Like, great. If you follow Greg down the line, the minerals in your battery is so evil. It's really evil, man.

Brian Redban: I mean, that's why they call them conflict minerals, right?

Joe Rogan: Right. Is any of the new... well, I guess you wouldn't know. Because there's all these different battery techs. Like I know there's a new one.

Brian Redban: Yeah, there's definitely a more energy dense one. Who's using it now? It's not OnePlus. It's one of those other Chinese, Opio. One of those big Chinese companies that makes killer cell phones that we never get. This band here. It's got a 7200 milliamp battery. So an iPhone has a 5200 or something like that. So this is significantly larger than the iPhone battery. What's crazy though is the screen is brighter. It's got more nits. And if you have them both on full screen brightness and watch a video, like prolonged video forever, the iPhone only dies like 35 minutes before this one does. They both go like 19 hours, but this one's like 19 hours and 35 minutes. Like, okay. Well, you got a big-ass battery. Why does it only go 35 more minutes for like 40% more battery?

Joe Rogan: That seems stupid because they're not as optimized. That's the thing that Apple has over everybody. They only have one operating system, and they make the devices. The end. And so everybody else is supporting a Samsung phone and those how about those weirdos with Sony phones?

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Joe Rogan: That's still a thing.

Brian Redban: Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan: But the cameras are really good on them.

Brian Redban: Bro, Sony phone is the unheralded hero of the cell phone world. Because they'll still make a phone with a jack where you can put a real audio jack in.

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: And listen to like real music. Instead of a dongle and all that crap.

Joe Rogan: Well, you could also charge it at the same time instead of this stupid USB-C thing. Because if you have to listen to something, if something's really important, your phone's running out of battery, you have to make a choice. Either you wear Bluetooth and cook your brain, or you have to charge or listen, or you have to put it on speakerphone or something. But with these Sony phones, they still have the old-school headphone jack.

Brian Redban: I like the old-school one. I hate dongles so much on these phones. It just sucks that they're banned. Like so many of these cell phones with all these technologies, you know, because it's from China, is banned. It's like DJI, one of the biggest, coolest companies that makes some of the best drones ever. You know, they just got banned. And now we have to have like the second best, which is just like crap. Like we went backwards 10 years in drone technology.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. China's way ahead on drones, right?

Brian Redban: Way, I mean, way ahead. And they're like $600 and they're this big and they're super light. And what sucks is that the U.S. said, "Okay, DJI is like, we have nothing to do with the government. Please." I don't know if you heard, but we're going to make a million drones. We have so many drones. They have one month, though. There's like five different departments in the U.S. government to research the company DJI and say, "Yes, they are with China government or not." And none of the government or none of these four to five departments have done anything since. They have like three weeks left until they are 100% banned forever.

Joe Rogan: It's probably a trade tactic if I had to guess.

Brian Redban: You think?

Joe Rogan: Yeah. I think a lot of what Trump does is trade tactics. Like he threatens...

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: He threatened Xi Jinping that he's going to start testing nuclear bombs again. That's what he said. Like they're testing nuclear bombs. So he's like, "If they're testing bombs, we're going to test bombs. We don't want to test bombs." He said he was going to test bombs. And all of a sudden they're having really fruitful conversations. They sit down and talk it out. I think the craziness of him helps in that way because once he sits down and talks to people, he's pretty good at making deals. You could hate the guy. You could be like, fuck him. He's like, okay, okay, okay. But look, he's already negotiated peace settlements with many African countries that have been at war for decades. These people have been in conflict forever. There's quite a few different international conflicts that he's somehow or another brokered peace deals for. And nobody wants to look at that. He's not profiting from making sure these people don't kill each other. Legitimately, there's some part of him that you have to admit doesn't want people to die. And if he can prevent that, he's going to try to do that. Also, the crypto coin's sketchy as fuck. You know what I mean? You've got to be able to say all of it, right? There's a whole lot. It's like all human beings. He's got a lot of things going on. He's just got more because he's the president. But some of those tactics of talking shit, it kind of seems to work a little. Admit it or not, do you think it's unpresidential or not? You're probably correct. Some of it seems to work. It's not working with Russia at all. The Russia-Ukraine thing, remember he said he was going to be able to fix that in 24 hours and Putin was like, "Okay, I'm going to fuck with you."

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: You know, Putin is on a totally different level. He's a legit dictator. I mean, he's been running Russia for a long time. And he's got that place locked down so tight that even if he really did allow for open elections, he would still win all the time. And why would he allow for open? "I know what's best for you."

Brian Redban: That's crazy that that still happens. You know what I mean? Still happens in most countries, bro. That's what's crazy. This is the only country legitimately where it's up for grabs. Like that's how a guy like Trump can get in there. I mean, it's a crazy evil battle and now people are being prosecuted because of a lot of the things that they tried to do while he was in office the first time. I mean, there's so many cases going on right now that seem to be legitimate. Like they legitimately... Did you see the BBC thing?

Joe Rogan: The BBC thing is crazy.

Brian Redban: The head of BBC had to resign because they took a film of Trump from January 6th, the speech that he gave, and they edited it so something that he said 52 minutes later, they put right after he said something to make it look like he was trying to get people to go attack people and fight at the Capitol.

Joe Rogan: They do that to you all the time. But this one's nuts. Not only is this one nuts, but this one is for a literal president of the greatest country the world's ever known. He's the president, and you're lying about what he said publicly, which is on the internet, which anybody can see. Like, it is the clearest indication of how that woke shit was rotting people's brains. And is still. Still is still, but just less. You know what I mean? It was like it was on the march then and they all felt like they had to go along with it. And so by any means necessary, we must make sure that, you know, so they decided to paint a different version of what he said. And they're fucked now. They're fucked. BBC. 60 Minutes did it with the Kamala Harris interview, but they did it the other way. They made it look like she had a good answer, which is like it's so crazy. Like you guys are supposed to be the news. You're not supposed to be the propaganda arm of whatever party you support. This is nuts. This is nuts. And BBC is always like the one you quote when you want to seem smart. "I was watching this thing on the BBC."

Brian Redban: Oh dude, you watch the BBC? You must be smart.

Joe Rogan: And PBS. That used to be what I considered school. That's like the best. The good guys. You see that PBS lady? She's like, "Sometimes truth gets in the way of good." Like what? No it doesn't. Truth doesn't get in the way, you crazy asshole. And then they had an interview with her and they were like asking her questions. Such non-answers. Like, "What did you mean by this? Do you guys lean in one way or another ideologically or politically?" And it's like this circular non-answered dance where you're never a real person. You're not saying, you know, like, "Thank you, Mr. Senator, for that question." You know, like you're not real. You're just trying to get through this session without revealing anything that's going to force you to be sued. And that's in charge of the narrative that we get on TV. And a respected narrative. PBS, very respected. BBC, very respected. Like, because of the past. And it just got infected by zombies. They just made their way through the gates. And they took over the staff.

Brian Redban: What's next?

Joe Rogan: This is a rejection of that, but the scary part is what we usually do is we do something like that and then we overcorrect.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: And then we go like white nationalists. We're all Christian. Get rid of the Muslims. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan: Like it gets scary when there's like hardcore ideological conflict because people push back. "Oh, you want to know what a bitch is? I'll show you a fucking bitch."

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: You know, that's what happens. You kind of call me a bitch, okay motherfucker, it's on. And then that's what people are doing on the left and the right. And the ultimate expression of that is obviously Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk gets shot and people are celebrating. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You want people to die that you disagree with? Like, where are we right now on the scale of one to two civil war? Where are we? Are we at seven? Because I thought we were five, like four or five. But after Charlie Kirk, I'm like, "Oh, we might be like seven." This might be like step seven on the way to a bona fide civil war. As soon as you start having regular people celebrating somebody getting murdered in front of their wife and kid on television, in front of the whole world, as soon as you celebrate that, man, you're in dark territory. And if the worst thing you could say about that guy is that he said some things I disagree with, and you're celebrating that he got shot in the neck in front of the world? Whoa. And you work at an insurance company? This is nuts. And you thought it was okay to say that on Instagram? This is nuts. This is nuts. Like, what are you guys on? What's happening here?

Brian Redban: Estrogen pills.

Joe Rogan: I think it's Adderall.

Brian Redban: Adderall.

Joe Rogan: I think there's a lot of folks out there, high productivity folks, that are on amphetamines.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: You're an amphetamine person, you know, which is why they're so mean. Amphetamine people are mean. Weed people are like, "Aw." Weed people are like, "Well, you know, man, like she's in a bubble. And the people she's around, they all think it's the right thing to do that, you know, you have the platform and you know it's right." Like you don't know what's right. I don't know what's right. Nobody knows what's right. The only way you find out what's right is you got to talk to people and you listen to their logical arguments about something. "Oh, OK. Yeah, you got a good point. I never thought about it that way." But if you can't do that, then you never figure it out. And if instead of doing that, you decide the other people can't talk, or you make up some facts, or you edit some video together to make it look like somebody said something they totally didn't say. Have you seen it? You've seen what they edited?

Brian Redban: Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan: Jamie, can you find it real quick, an example of it so we can see it? Because it's so nuts. Like, how did you think you were going to get away with this? But this is what they've fucking done so many times. They did that with that "very fine people" hoax where they tried to pretend that he was saying that some of the neo-Nazis are very fine people. That's not what he said.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: They edited the fucking shit out of that. And then Obama was saying that during the campaign for Kamala Harris. Did he call them white nationalists? "Very fine people"? He's saying that on the campaign trail. That's crazy. Wow. So here, play this out. "Down to the Capitol, and I'll be there with you. And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore." Alright, that's the BBC. "We're going to walk down to the Capitol." This is what he actually said. "And we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women." 54 minutes. "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore." That's crazy. Crazy. Crazy. He was literally saying the opposite.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: He was calling these senators and congresspeople—going to cheer on these brave senators and congresspeople. That's great. On PBS? That's nuts. Bro. By the way, he's being sarcastic. He doesn't want to cheer on the brave senators. It was a scare with a mob of people. Let's be real about both things. Let's be real about both things. But he's also saying they stole the fucking election. And I feel like if you say that, you've got to have some really good evidence that you could give out. Like if you said to me, if I ran for president and I told you, "Dude, they stole the election." And you're like, "How?" I would have an answer. I'd have an answer. No one has an answer. There's no documentary that's really good. Like no one's put together a rock solid, peer reviewed, paper supported documentary. "This is exactly what happened. This is how they stole the election. We know that you can do this. We know they did this. We know that these things got dropped off. We know it didn't make any sense. We know there's dead people voted. We know there was ballots that were mail-in ballots that were brought in in shipments and all of them were for Biden. And there was thousands and thousands of them and they swung the vote." OK, if you have that, then you got to make a fucking documentary, a really good one, and put it out there so everybody could understand it. Because it's crazy that this is four years later and people are still saying that. Or you don't want to fix it because you monkey with the elections, too.

Brian Redban: And here is there evidence of that?

Joe Rogan: Well, I do know that a Republican company who bought Dominion—who bought the Dominion voting thing—I believe this, a GOP supporter bought the voting machines.

Brian Redban: Oh, really?

Joe Rogan: Right, yeah. So it's one of two things that's going on. Dominion Voting Systems sold to company run by former Republican election official.

Brian Redban: What? Yeah.

Joe Rogan: This is where it gets sus. This is where it gets sus. I had Rep Luna on the podcast and one of the things that she said that was really shocking: she said sometimes they don't want to fix things because they can campaign against them.

Brian Redban: I was like, "What? No."

Joe Rogan: They fundraise against them.

Brian Redban: No.

Joe Rogan: I was like, "No." And then I was like, "Of course." They don't want to fix it. They want it so that it's us versus them, and you're going to lose your right to whatever it is. It's just a big old hustle, dude. It's insane. It's a big old hustle. Because one of two things is going on. Either you don't have any evidence that they stole the election. Or you have evidence and you're not telling me. Why would you not tell me? Why would you not tell me? I'll tell everybody. You have evidence? Or you're like, "Oh, is that how they did it? Okay. Let's spread some money around. Let's make it happen our way. Let's copy."

Brian Redban: Well, just like Xiaomi when they make the iPhone that looks exactly like a—

Joe Rogan: It looks cool. Their phone, they even call it the Pro Mac 17.

Brian Redban: Yeah, it's badass. It has the screen on the back. It has the screen on the front and the back.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. That was the one.

Brian Redban: Yeah. That was the one.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. That's the one that has a new kind of battery.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: It's a different composition, right?

Brian Redban: Right, yeah.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, that's, I think—what is that called? Jamie, see if you can find that out.

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Joe Rogan: It's some... God, I don't want to fuck it up. But that was one of the big criticisms of the newest Samsung phone. The 26 Ultra, the speculation is that they haven't switched to that type of battery production yet.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Samsung is getting criticized because they're not keeping up with the Chinese phones. Like, they've got a bunch of loyal Samsung people, but they're not keeping up with the highest-end Chinese phones. Other than that.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: That's the step up. But there's some things that the higher-end Chinese phones are doing that's like, "Ooh."

Brian Redban: Yeah, they've been pretty safe lately, Samsung has, with their phones. They're kind of doing what Apple's doing. Just a little thing different every single year.

Joe Rogan: I mean, I just saw a phone. I think it's, was it the Razr phone? No. But it has liquid cooling in it, so the back is all just water bubbles going around and stuff. Like, it's so badass looking. Who makes that? Jamie, you know what I'm talking about? It's a liquid cooling phone. Who is it? Razor? No, like liquid cooling phone. Somebody just showed it. Oh, Jerry Riggs Everything just had it, and he tore it apart and everything like that. It's badass. I like that guy's show, but it also makes me sad. Here it is. Unbox Therapy. Red Magic.

Brian Redban: Oh, didn't you have a red phone, Jamie? It's not? No. Oh, it was fucking thieves?

Joe Rogan: Look at that. See those white dots? That's actually water bubbles. Ooh. And when it gets hot, it just starts spinning.

Brian Redban: So that's a gaming phone?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: How much do I want water bubbles?

Joe Rogan: I do want water bubbles, but I don't want them enough to switch to Android. It's a problem.

Brian Redban: Yeah, that phone looks awesome.

Joe Rogan: That's pretty dope. That's a problem, though, the gaming on the phone, dude. Man, I can't fuck with that.

Brian Redban: I can't either.

Joe Rogan: It's right there. I care. It's too accessible. I don't want to get addicted to some stupid game on my phone.

Brian Redban: Yeah. But I know some people who love it. William Montgomery, he sits there and plays like three hours of just a prick game. William Montgomery. That video you sent me of him bombing at that Austin Comedy Festival, that shit is so funny. There's so many videos now of it.

Joe Rogan: Oh my god, that's so funny. Here's the thing about William. William, to me, is the ultimate—once you see him you love him and you want to see him more comic, right? The ultimate. But the first time you see him, you're like, "What the fuck is this?"

Brian Redban: Yeah, like Brody Stevens. When you first see Brody, you're like, "What the fuck is he yelling?"

Joe Rogan: Exactly. He's really the most similar guy to Brody that I know.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: And they're both weirdos.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: He's a great guy, just like Brody was. But if you see him though, the Black Keys, those guys fucking love him.

Brian Redban: Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan: And when they came into the studio, they wanted to come to the club. They go, "Is William Montgomery coming?" I go, "I'll make sure he's there." I call up William. I'm like, "William?" Yeah. Pat and Dan, they fucking love him, man. He's got so many fans because he's so unique. But you got to know what you're getting into with him.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: And don't have him open up for you if you're—what's that, Morgan James? Who is he opening up for? He's like, "Who's that guy? Is that a girl or a guy?" I have no idea. I don't know. I just saw the clip you showed me.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: I didn't see anything else. I think it's that guy that goes into the audience with an auto-tune microphone that's really popular for some reason.

Brian Redban: See, I'm so old.

Joe Rogan: Me too. I'm so old I'm out of the loop. I don't know what these kids like.

Brian Redban: Yeah, Morgan Jay. Who's Morgan Jay? I find out about artists, and when I find out about them, they have 20 million Instagram followers. I'm like, "Okay."

Joe Rogan: Yeah, that's who it is, Morgan Jay. And he has 5.2 million followers, and his whole thing is he just goes into the audience. He's not really a comedian.

Brian Redban: He's more of a performer.

Joe Rogan: A performer. He just goes into the audience and talks to people. He does crowd work, that's pretty much it. And he's like one of the biggest stars right now. It's crazy.

Brian Redban: Well, people like crowd work. That's why they like Matt Rife. He does a lot of sexy stuff too.

Joe Rogan: Both things. But it's also the crowd work. If he was just sexy and wasn't good at crowd work, he wouldn't have the audience he does. Matt's funny. He's really quick.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: That's like a certain style of performing. He's real calm on stage and he finds the thing to say, and people love that because you're doing it off the top of your head and it's wild for them. "Oh my god." But it's just a different thing than regular stand-up. Kind of like what Chapelle is like. He's a totally different style. He'll sit there and just smoke a cigarette on the stool, talking, chill.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: That's a different style of stand-up comedy. Relaxing.

Brian Redban: Well, Dave is also like—Dave comes up with material by ranting. He records all these shows where he's just working on material, and then he goes over and finds out what he said that made sense, what he said that was funny. He just lets it kind of flow. It's a very interesting way of doing it, and obviously it works really well.

Joe Rogan: Boy, that guy is so dedicated to comedy. It's so interesting. All these years he's been doing stand-up and he's still more dedicated than ever. He's always performing, always showing up somewhere and working.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: He's always just constantly piecing it together. And he's such a nice guy. The nicest guy to everybody. He was upset with Chris Rock after Chris Rock made that special. Not upset, but disagreed, I should say, that he went so hard after Will Smith.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: That's how nice he is. Have you seen Will Smith's new song?

Brian Redban: Oh, it's great.

Joe Rogan: It's my phone ring.

Brian Redban: Are you serious?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: It's your new one?

Joe Rogan: If you call me, that's my phone ring. "Remember what you used to be? I am beautiful." It's Christina Aguilera. That used to be your old callback or your ringtone. "You're beautiful, no matter what they say. Words can't bring me down." Those were the days.

Brian Redban: Yeah, man, it was fun. You could get a phone. It was like I had a Verizon flip phone and you could download ringtones. Why can't you do that now? I just thought of that. You can't do that anymore.

Joe Rogan: I think you can.

Brian Redban: You can't make a song a ringtone. Where did that go away? Is that really not a thing anymore?

Joe Rogan: No, I never thought about that. Wait a second, why would they—is that real? No. Wait, what the fuck? You should be able to do it, like pick a song on iTunes.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: Why can't you do that anymore?

Brian Redban: I think you can.

Joe Rogan: No, no, you can?

Brian Redban: You can.

Joe Rogan: Okay.

Brian Redban: Wait, no one does that anymore.

Joe Rogan: Nobody does that. I'm going to switch mine to "Back in Black."

Brian Redban: Yeah. That's why everybody used to do that back then. No one does. Zero people do that now.

Joe Rogan: I know. Zero. Zero. More people are making their car alarm sound on their test list, like things. But you know how you can do that? You make like fart sounds or whatever. That was like a scene in movies, right? The phone would play "Bad to the Bone."

Brian Redban: "Bad to the Bone."

Joe Rogan: Yeah. That's crazy. Do you remember when you would call people and music would play? Ring back tones.

Brian Redban: Yes.

Joe Rogan: Their tone of their ring, you would hear a shitty song. You're like, "God, you're making me listen to this." Now you don't want to do any of that because you don't want anyone to know that's your phone number.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: You don't want to go super specific.

Brian Redban: Yeah, right. I used to be like, "This is Brian, man." Now, fuck that. People used to always have like funny things. Hey, I got the phone for the—he's the last one. When you get a text from him to this day, I'm like, "Really?"

Joe Rogan: Yeah, he texts us more nowadays.

Brian Redban: Really?

Joe Rogan: It's kind of cool.

Brian Redban: Really? You don't know the torture he put you through when you would try to text him? Oh, my God. Or with the laptop in the green room one time where he's like bending my finger backwards. I said, "Turn that off, cocks." I'm like, "Alright, Jillian."

Joe Rogan: Yeah, he didn't like the laptop in the green room. He didn't like technology. He was fighting technology tooth and nail. But he's right in a lot of ways.

Brian Redban: Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan: It's just I feel like the people that fight technology right now in 2025, it's like what are you doing? Come on, you can't beat this thing. You better just adjust to the new world, son. Are you gonna be out in the fucking field with a horse-driven plow? Adjust to the new world. Just have some fun. Whatever this is, you're not gonna stop it. This motherfucker is rolling down the hill. No one's hitting the brakes on technology now. Unless a big event happens, some big asteroid hits us, or China implements those really good drones.

Brian Redban: All the drones come out and wake up.

Joe Rogan: I think the Trump administration just said they were going to buy a million drones.

Brian Redban: Wow, that's good timing for banning a whole drone company. I actually heard a rumor, I never looked into it, about that, where the owner of that drone company is owned by the vice president of the United States of America.

Joe Rogan: What? Yeah.

Brian Redban: J.D. Vance?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, I think J.D. has like—see, I haven't researched it yet, so I don't know if it's true. But that's hilarious if it's true because we just canceled DJI and now—

Brian Redban: And he owns—

Joe Rogan: I read that somewhere but never researched it.

Brian Redban: Okay, what specifically? We'll find out. It was supposedly the vice—I think it was the vice president owns a—or is invested in a drone company and the U.S. is buying all these drones from it.

Joe Rogan: Whoa. I think. I might be wrong. That's an important thing to get correct.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: I forgot that I did that. We might have to edit this out if it's not correct.

Brian Redban: Right. Young Jamie, put that into our sponsor, Perplexity, and find out whether or not we have an AI sponsor.

Joe Rogan: Perplexity. I like them. They're awesome.

Brian Redban: Yeah, they're great.

Joe Rogan: Let's see if it has information. So there's one thing. It's like you can be an investor, right? Like maybe you have a stock portfolio and you invest in a bunch of different companies because someone told you they're really good four years ago. When you become the vice president, are you supposed to get rid of those now? How does that work?

Brian Redban: Yeah, I would think—well—

Joe Rogan: It gets a little Nancy Pelosi-ish. Maybe no new investments. We don't even know if he does have stock in him. It's true. It's probably not real. No way. Significant ties. Significant ties. Make that a little larger, please. Oh, my God. This is the first sentence. "J.D. Vance has significant ties to the drone and broader defense technology industry through his previous career as a venture capitalist. Before entering political office, Vance co-founded and managed funds that invested in several defense-related startups, including the companies at the forefront of drone, aerospace, and surveillance technology." Hmm. Okay. So. Okay, this is Andrew. This is. Okay. Interesting. Okay, deleting. Can you put that back up so I can finish this? "Leading defense tech startup specializing in autonomous systems including drones. Palmer Lucky was on the podcast. This is his company too."

Brian Redban: He brought those crazy headsets where you could see people behind walls.

Joe Rogan: Bro.

Brian Redban: Yeah, that shit's awesome.

Joe Rogan: That's all the same company. "Benefiting from new federal legislation and growing demand for advanced military drone surveillance and automation." Boy, we're so close to the Terminator. Okay, here it is. "Federal financing disclosure form showed that Vance maintained those investments, sometimes valued in the hundreds of thousands, while serving as vice president, although ethical boundaries about recusal and direct control over such assets are subject to federal ethics rules." So there's federal ethics rules as to what happens, like if he passes a law that benefits that company that he has a significant stake in.

Brian Redban: Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan: "Vance has publicly commented on the national security dimensions of drone technology, criticizing the risk posed by foreign, particularly Chinese, drone manufacturers and advocating for U.S.-made autonomous systems in both military and civil sectors."

Brian Redban: Well, that is accurate, though. It is a problem. And it's not just a problem because there's a bunch of problems. One of them is in America to operate some drones when they get really high end, you have to have a pilot's license.

Joe Rogan: Not if it weighs under 250 grams, which is what, you know, like the really nice small ones.

Brian Redban: Right, but to have one of the ones they were buzzing New Jersey with.

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: When they were flying those weird ones.

Joe Rogan: The farm ones, yes.

Brian Redban: What do you think those were? Do you think those were like government drones that they're testing?

Joe Rogan: Probably this company.

Brian Redban: Yeah, probably that company right there.

Joe Rogan: Probably Palmer Lucky with a fucking joystick. Assassinated.

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Joe Rogan: Palmer Lucky sitting at home with an Xbox.

Brian Redban: Yeah, with his little Game Boy thing.

Joe Rogan: Dude, he was one of those guys where you're talking to and right away you're like, "Oh, okay. You're crazy smart. This is weird smart."

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Some dudes are weird. Elon's weird smart. There's people that are weird smart. You're like, "Oh, okay."

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Palmer's a badass, man.

Brian Redban: Oh, yeah. I saw an interview with him and it just showed his living room or something and it just looks like my living room. Like nerd stuff everywhere.

Joe Rogan: Oh, yeah. For sure. He had a copper jacket on.

Brian Redban: A copper jacket?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, it's copper. I go, "What is it?" He's like, "The whole jacket's like a Faraday cage. You put your jacket in, you put your phone in the pocket, it disappears."

Brian Redban: Oh.

Joe Rogan: I was like, "Whoa." It was heavy.

Brian Redban: Yeah, I'm sure.

Joe Rogan: That's why I put it on. I was like, "This is weird." You can move so good in it. A worth of pennies. Probably at least. Probably at least. It was weird. It's a weird thing to own a copper jacket, but it's very Palmer Lucky.

Brian Redban: It's interesting.

Joe Rogan: So this drone thing. China has been investing. The way it works, their government and their corporations are like this. They work together. And they work together for China. And you don't have a choice. You can make a lot of money, but you do what the fuck we tell you to do, bitch. And that's how they run things over there. And because of that, they can dump a ton of money into these things for the future of China and boost them up and make them work. And then they all compete. They compete against each other in China. It's like a weird hybrid of capitalism and communism. It's very strange. And they have a giant head start. They do drone shows. You've seen the shows?

Brian Redban: Well, they have like dragons in the sky and samurais. Have you ever been to one?

Joe Rogan: Not like that. I saw a small one at COTA, at the Circuit of the Americas out here. It was pretty dope. But the ones they do are nuts. They're nuts. They just had like one of the biggest ones ever recently. See if you can find some video on some of the China drone shows.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: It's incredible. And their drones are more advanced. They're pushing their technology faster. And that stuff works exponentially. And if you put the brakes on American technology, you also put the brakes on American manufacturing. Look at that. That's nuts. That's insane. Each one of those is a drone. That's nuts, dude. I mean, that literally looks like something from Avatar.

Brian Redban: Dude, yes.

Joe Rogan: Right? Look at that. That's insane. It's a DMT trip right there. That's insane. Look at this. There's an enormous flower that's at the end of this little girl's kite rope. Look at that. They did the moon. It's spinning. That's crazy. Wait a minute. Hold on. Are those real?

Brian Redban: Yeah, that's real.

Joe Rogan: That's real for sure, for sure?

Brian Redban: Yeah. It's just on—

Joe Rogan: That's the one I was talking about, the largest one ever.

Brian Redban: This is the largest one ever?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: Was it that that we just saw?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan: That's just how they do it. Look at that. Look at how many drones they have. How many drones are involved in this?

Brian Redban: I think it's 10,000 drones.

Joe Rogan: Oh, my God. This is insane. Charge up 10,000 drones. Dudes are doing Kung Fu in the sky. I mean, that's nuts. Wow. Wow. Insane. Insane. I have to charge up 10,000 drones. Dudes are doing kung fu in the sky. I mean, that's nuts. Wow. Wow. That's so impressive, man. It really is. And they're all just synced. Oh, my God. Like, come on, man. At one point in time, sometime in the near future, they're going to be able to do whatever they want in the sky.

Brian Redban: We also have the sphere in America. They don't have a sphere.

Joe Rogan: You mean the big building?

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, well, okay. Well, I'm just saying.

Brian Redban: I get it. The sphere's pretty dope.

Joe Rogan: They're probably watching that. They're like, "Why don't we have that? Why can't we go watch music like that?" But at some point in time, they're going to be able to have movies in the sky that are made out of drones.

Brian Redban: Yeah, every drone's going to be like an LED, and then it's going to replace.

Joe Rogan: Well, you'll be forced to watch a movie. You'll be forced to lay down on your lawn and watch a movie in the sky. Like, why wouldn't they be able to? If they can do that, this is very primitive, right? This is primitive. This is like the Pong version. They're just going to have trillions of little tiny drones that all sync up in the sky. And they all make different colors. 10,000. And that's just like a small pixel. We're going to have like 4K drones everywhere.

Brian Redban: Oh, someone used a drone jammer and they started falling out of the sky.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Whoa. Do you see what they're doing in Ukraine? Because of the drone jammers, they use monofilament line. So each one of them has like a fiber optic line.

Brian Redban: Fiber optic line, yeah.

Joe Rogan: That's nuts.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: So they have like miles and miles of fishing line. And then all these birds are making nests out of it and shit.

Brian Redban: Yeah. That's how that government mission happened because of that. Where he was like in that truck or something like that, and all those drones came out of the truck and did all those strikes. And I think it was the Ukraine or something like that.

Joe Rogan: What happened?

Brian Redban: Yeah, right.

Joe Rogan: What exactly happened?

Joe Rogan: So they had to use those fiber optic lines. There was a, I think it was Ukraine. I don't remember what country it is, but they got over the border of what other country it was and they had all these drones with those fiber optic lines and did drone strikes from the inside.

Brian Redban: That thing, Ukraine watch. I couldn't remember. On Russian soil.

Joe Rogan: Oh, right, right, right. This was the crazy one when they blew up all the jets that were on the runway. And they used that fiber optic line. That's how they got those drones to do that. That's how they got it so the drones can't be disrupted, right? Or detected or whatever too.

Brian Redban: That's crazy. That's like James Bond. I mean, that's just like Mission Impossible shit. The fact that, yeah, that actually happened. They really did do that. And I think they caused like $7 billion worth of damage.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Bro, that war is one day, 24 hours. I'll have a deal. There's no deal to be made, sir. That Putin fellow is making a point. It's not a good one. How many people have died now? What is the total on both sides? It's got to be off the charts.

Brian Redban: What is going on with, we're in war with all those drug runners and Trump keeps on blowing up a boat every day. That's kind of crazy, right?

Joe Rogan: My question is, how verified is this evidence? Like how much, you know, because if I was a fisherman and there's another guy was a fisherman like this cocksucker. This guy is always stealing my fucking fish. And I would go, Mr. Trump, this man, he have fentanyl, thousand pounds coming to you. I give you the boat number.

Brian Redban: Yeah. And it happens a lot. I think two happened yesterday or today. I put an Apple tracker on his fucking bait pile.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. It's weird. Here we go. Boom. That's a wrap. Who is still piling in those boats? That's great. Imagine how poor do you have to be before that seems like a good idea.

Brian Redban: Right. Pretty fucking poor.

Joe Rogan: It just makes me wonder, though, if these boats, if there's like innocent people on them, too.

Brian Redban: For sure. Like, you know.

Joe Rogan: For sure. This guy's bringing his girlfriend. Come on, baby. We're going to go to the U.S. Once we get to San Diego.

Brian Redban: Oh, yeah. There was one boat where people actually survived it, which is crazier.

Joe Rogan: Bro. What kind of a story do they have? Do you see... No, it's these people that survived. Are they actual drug people, or are they just, like, deep-sea fishing?

Brian Redban: Yeah. Do you see that helicopter? Like, four people died. It's one of the most irritating, frustrating videos ever. It just happened yesterday. This helicopter lost its... Oh, I did see that, yeah. And then landed twice on the water, and then for some reason went back up.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. That's crazy. I think they probably didn't know that they lost their tail. They have to that insane. I think they probably thought he could control it. It probably a guy. And if I was in that helicopter, I would just open the door and jump into the water and hopefully I survived at one point. Hopefully it doesn't land on you. This asshole just dropping it left and right.

Brian Redban: Oh, my God. I bet it was a guy. I bet a woman would have, like, landed on the water. Okay, okay, stop, stop it. How do I stop it? Let's go. We're going in the water.

Joe Rogan: A guy would be like, I got this. I got this, bro.

Brian Redban: Right. That's crazy. Yeah, I wonder what happened. He clipped the tail somewhere. Like, will he hit something, or did it fall off? It looked like he was supposed to land on that little rock thing, and then it clipped it, then went down and kind of landed on the beach for like a second. It went up a little, then landed again, and then he's just flying in the air. I don't even know that was possible without a tail of a helicopter. That seems crazy.

Joe Rogan: Obviously, he can't direct it.

Brian Redban: Right. Yeah. Maybe that was the problem, that he couldn't control it. I don't know. No, that's crazy. Ask Bill Burr.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. He flies those things. He took me up above downtown L.A. It was amazing. I was like, this is crazy. Like, this is so cool. I don't like helicopter. He takes them to gigs sometimes. That's crazy. Do you trust helicopter? I don't really. I trusted it for that day. I'm like, I'll trust it. It's fun to go up with Bill.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: It was fun to see him, like, really into this hobby he has. I was like, that's interesting, you know? It's really cool that he does it. He's an interesting guy. I'm surprised you didn't go to Dubai.

Brian Redban: Me? No. You mean Saudi Arabia.

Joe Rogan: Saudi Arabia. Dubai.

Brian Redban: Bro, I don't even go to San Francisco.

Joe Rogan: I know. I don't even go to Glendale.

Brian Redban: Yeah, you think I'm going to go to – no, no, no.

Joe Rogan: I think if you chase money when you have money, then money owns you.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: My time is what's valuable to me. And also, I'm not down with that whole thing. There's definitely a whitewashing. Schultz has a great argument. You're going to see your fans. Just because this is put on by a government that does bad things or has done bad things, guess what? Your government does bad things too and has done bad things. Right? You know, ask people in Yemen how they feel about America. Right? Ask people in Iraq. Ask the million people that died unnecessarily because we lied about weapons and mass destruction. Ask them. Ask them about America. You know. Right. It's complicated. I get the argument like, I have fans in the Middle East, you want to go see your fans in the Middle East. I get it. Fans one, I don't know. I bet a lot they have the internet, man. I bet a lot.

Brian Redban: Yeah, they do. It's not like North Korea. They're much more open than other parts of the world, you know. We can't judge them on... we obviously can judge them. But if you want to be rational, they're adjusting. Women can drive now. It's a new thing. It's very recent. Andrew Schultz was telling me when he was over there that a lot of people that are over there, they get their wife a cheap Chinese car because these ladies have never driven before. They just play in bumper cars with everything. They park terrible. They're always fucking their cars up. And these guys have big money. I mean, that's a very wealthy country. So they offered Shane a bag. They offered Shane a bag. He's like, no. Then they doubled it. And they doubled it. He's like, no, no. He goes, it was hard, but they doubled it.

Joe Rogan: I'm like, of course. That's how they're trying to get you. But the criticism is all from people that were not invited, which is kind of typical.

Brian Redban: Yeah. Or we're never going to be invited.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. It would be good for them to experience comedy because I think comedy is one of the only things that can get discussions going from both sides. Like if you go on stage and you have an opinion, and it's not funny. I could be in the audience. I have a different opinion. I'm like, well, fuck this guy. I don't agree with that at all. But if you go on stage with an opinion that makes me laugh, even if I don't agree with it, I'm like, oh this motherfucker. He got me. He got me. That's a good point. That's a good boy. And you like giving your buddies knuckles. That's a good point. That's like where comedy breaks down doors. Unfortunately, there was like restrictions put on you which is another reason why I wouldn't do it. Like if someone says you can't say this or you can't say that, I'm like, okay.

Brian Redban: Yeah, and then you say something like, well, I didn't think about that. You shouldn't have said that either. We're gonna...

Joe Rogan: Yeah. There's a lot. If you went over there and made fun of a prince or a king or a royal or the government or whatever, you're in real trouble. You could go to jail forever trouble. That doesn't make me feel loose.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: You know, that doesn't make me feel like I want to do stand-up in a place like that.

Brian Redban: Yeah. Almost like the UK.

Joe Rogan: Yikes. They're worse than anybody. That's what's funny. Most people don't even know. Most Americans are blissfully unaware of how crazy censorship has gotten in the UK. Off the chart. And crime. Crime and censorship because people are complaining about the crime. That's really what the censorship is all about because it's all about immigrants. Pickpocketers everywhere.

Brian Redban: Bro, they just brought in people from places they bombed. How wild is that?

Joe Rogan: Like, oh, do we ruin your country? So sorry. Come on over and live in London.

Brian Redban: Saudi Arabia of them. All the places that the west has bombed the shit out of, you create all these refugees and then you bring them to your country. What are you doing? Why don't you have a vetting process? Are you trying to ruin everything?

Joe Rogan: And that's where I think it gets weird because I think under the guise of empathy and under the guise of kindness, they are engineering the destruction of major Western cities. And the question is like, who? Well, George Soros is the big one that everybody points to. But he can't be acting alone. There's got to be a lot of other people that also want the same result. And you got to go, well, why? And the more I think about it, the more I think about it with its accelerated pace right now, because it's so accelerated, the more I think it's connected to the ultimate birth of AI, when AI really does become the global force for everything, they're going to want you already locked into like digital ID. And that's the first response that England has had to all these problems. It's not stop immigration. It's not crack down, find the criminals, arrest them. No, no, no. It's put everybody on digital ID to keep us all safe. And that's, so once you see if they do have AI, AI is in control of everything, everything you do, all your money, all your food, all your groceries, they put carbon taxes on you so they can completely control you. You have a carbon allotment so if you go over your carbon footprint you can't travel anymore. So you're totally locked in. They want all that stuff in place. And the only way to get that stuff in place is to create chaos. So you want to like newly super restrictive laws. Get people so they're terrified and they want safety. Someone offers a solution and that solution involves them being able to track you everywhere you go and everybody has to have it. Yes, this is the solution to make us all safe. And the next thing you know, you're in a fucking Orwell book. But on the other side, I do like the idea of having to list my driver's license on my phone. Why not just get a chip? Don't be a pussy. Get the forearm chip. You know that's coming. Get that chip, son. Brain chip. No, no, look at the brain one. Wait, you know, it's like you don't go right into an iPhone. You get a Blackberry first.

Brian Redban: Do you think Elon has the brain chip and he's not telling anybody?

Joe Rogan: No, I think Elon's an alien.

Brian Redban: Yeah, he's not real, right?

Joe Rogan: I don't think he's from here. If there's a person that's not from here, that's the guy. Trillion dollar. He's a different kind of human. And he's having fun. That's the thing, man. Like, I'm friends with him. Like, I've hung out with him on air, off air. He's having fun. Like, he's having fun. That's what I want. He's like works constantly and also always laughing having a good time. Like I got to see the SpaceX launch and then what Jamie and I was there on the lawn while it was launching was crazy. It was two miles away. I thought it was like a quarter of a mile or half a mile because it's so loud.

Brian Redban: Okay, two miles. Two miles away.

Joe Rogan: And then I got to sit in the command room and watch them. They had all these monitors like I don't know how many different cameras were on this fucking rocket and we watched it. It touched down in Australia 35 minutes later.

Brian Redban: That's so cool.

Joe Rogan: It was wild. But all the way, he's joking around about it blowing up.

Brian Redban: Really?

Joe Rogan: Yes. Because what they're doing with these is they were running, he was explaining to us on the show that they were running very specific tolerance tests. So they would remove heat shields in critical areas to see whether or not the vehicle will survive. So one of the things about the blow ups, people are like, oh, he's a fucking idiot, he keeps blowing up his rockets. They designed to possibly blow up because they want to find out what can it tolerate. Right. And so they have removed these heat shields from very specific places but it still made it. And so it lost pressure like somewhere over Australia and there was like only a 30% chance that it was going to touch down, but it did. It's so fucking cool. It's wild, man. It's wild how much data they're collecting instantaneously, and it was also practicing this thing that the way it shoots satellites into space, it's like a Pez dispenser. So it has like these things, these satellites are all on a rack and then this thing opens up that looks like just a long flat opening like a Pez would come out of and then they shoot these satellites out of it and they were practicing that.

Brian Redban: That's cool.

Joe Rogan: I'm like this is nuts. This is nuts. It's really weird. Like the door opens up and you're watching like, this is crazy. I don't think everybody understands how advanced this stuff is. Like, I thought, Jamie, you felt the same way, right? When we were going down to the factory, I thought they'd have a rocket that they built. No, they're building like hundreds of rockets.

Brian Redban: Assembly plant, that kind of style?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, it's huge. It's fucking huge, man. At one point in time, what did they say they were going to be able to do, three a week? That's crazy. Wasn't it something crazy like that? I don't remember how many. Well, they have to do a lot, but I don't remember how many. That was the ultimate goal. I feel like more than that. More than that. Maybe three a day. I don't know. Three a week. Let's just say three a week. Rockets! That can go to space. And the process is fucking bananas. You can't take pictures. I don't even know if we're allowed to get specific, but while you're walking around and you're looking at it, I wouldn't be able to explain it to anybody.

Brian Redban: Right. The Chinese are listening careful. What does Rogan say? Pest dispenser. Write that down.

Joe Rogan: But it's nuts. They have garage doors that are as high as a fucking skyscraper. And then they roll out a rocket. You're like, yo, this is nuts. It's really, like, truly nuts.

Brian Redban: That's awesome. And the outside of it is just like a cyber truck factory. Like, what is going on here? Whose car is whose? How does anybody know?

Joe Rogan: That's the argument. Like if you ever want to have like if someone going to totally completely track everything you do forever, it's going to be an electric car. Oh yeah, right. Because that just you're just driving a computer. You don't even have an engine anymore. Yeah, I mean it's all everything's electric. Electric computer controlled vehicle that's self...

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Joe Rogan: Drives itself.

Brian Redban: Yeah. Have you tried one of the robo taxis yet?

Joe Rogan: No fucking way. I would feel like such a scab. I feel like a picket line crossover. I do have a question for you. Have you gotten a colonoscopy?

Brian Redban: Yeah, I got one.

Joe Rogan: Now, do you go to a regular doctor? Because I was thinking like, does Joe go? You should probably go to a butthole doctor. No, I mean like, do you go to like a private guy? Like you don't go to a regular doctor? Do you go to a regular doctor? Because I was thinking like this joke. You should probably go to a butthole doctor. No, I mean like do you go to like a private guy? Like you don't go to like where all the other guys are.

Joe Rogan: I'm not telling you on air where I get my butthole checked.

Brian Redban: Because it was like that's like weird. I just had one and.

Joe Rogan: How's everything up there?

Brian Redban: Good. Everything's great. That's amazing. Yeah, it's so amazing, right? It doesn't make any sense. What do you think about when you abuse your body? But hey, they have to roll you like when you're getting it. They roll you down this hallway and there's all these people just sitting there looking at it. Like, oh, it's his turn. Staring at your butthole.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. We're really doing it, Redban. You type today. And that was just – it's just weird. It's not – it's very – Do you get your blood work done? Do you get yourself checked up on?

Brian Redban: Every six weeks I do it.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. There's a unique blood screen that they can give you now that checks for all cancers in your body.

Brian Redban: Really?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: Oh, shit. I need that.

Joe Rogan: We're just doing it. Waste of all do it.

Brian Redban: Oh, really?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: Fuck. I did it. I got nervous.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. I got nervous like the first time I ever got an AIDS test. I got an AIDS test in the first time. I've been getting them a lot lately. I've been getting them a lot lately. Do it every six weeks. It was in the 90s. I was getting health insurance for the first time. And it was like early 90s, like 92, something like that. And I was like, oh, no. I was just thinking of all the stupid things that I've ever done.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: What if I have AIDS and I don't even know it? That's how everybody thought back then. And the mosquitoes. And then after a while, everyone was like, hey, no one's really getting AIDS.

Brian Redban: Right. What's going on? I was scared of AIDS too.

Joe Rogan: Oh, everybody was, dude. I remember the moment I found out that Magic Johnson was HIV positive. I was in my car in Revere, Massachusetts, driving down the road.

Brian Redban: And you fucked him.

Joe Rogan: And he was right next to me with his dick out. I was like, you didn't tell me. That dude was the first one that everyone was scared. Like, oh, no. He can get it? If he can get it, he's a superstar.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: If Magic Johnson can get it, I'm going to die. I'm fucked. Oh, my God. And we really thought that it was going to be like a zombie contagion that swept through the world and everyone was going to die. Because they were talking like Fauci was on TV talking about children getting it from family members like that it was communicable like in the air like the flu. It was so spooky, man. That guy scared the fuck out of everybody when it came to AIDS. Just like he did with COVID. How weird. How weird that he did it again. Isn't it crazy to think that Eazy-E died from AIDS?

Brian Redban: How did Eazy-E really die, though? He must have taken AZT.

Joe Rogan: You know, the idea that Eazy-E died from AIDS itself. It's mostly drug users. That was who was dying in the early days of AIDS. And this is what Peter Duesberg said. So Peter Duesberg, he's like a persona non grata in the medical world. And it's because he had a completely different opinion than everybody else when AIDS first came out. It was like one piece of data that they're not taking into consideration is that all these people that have AIDS, acquired immune deficiency syndrome, not just HIV positive, but all the people that have AIDS, all of them are hardcore drug users. It was like 90 something percent of people that had air quotes AIDS. And they weren't... I don't know whether it's political correctness or what, it was a lot of gay party guys and these guys were taking hardcore shit like amyl nitrate, which apparently loosens up the old booty hole, makes it easy to, as the kids say today, bottom. They didn't used to call it bottom back then, they were calling it butt fucking. Now it's bottoming, you know. Have you seen hole talks? Guys get Botox on their hole to make it looser, to make bottoming easier. They call it hole talks. If you leave men to their own devices, they will come up with the worst things to do to themselves.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: So that was so Duesberg, his contention. And it was like, I remember we had him on the podcast and it was the first time we got like violent pushback. People like you have blood on your hands. I'm like who's dying of AIDS right now? Because this was like 2012 or something. I'm like who's dying of AIDS? Is this a real thing? Because I'm just bringing on this guy from the University of California, Berkeley, who's a tenured professor who did groundbreaking research on cancer. Like really respected until he took this position on HIV that was outside of the Fauci narrative. And he was like, I don't think that's what we're looking at here. He goes, I think HIV is a symptom of someone having a very compromised immune system. I don't think it's a cause. And they were like, you monster. You have blood on your hands. I remember there was an article written in one of those magazines like Spin Magazine or something like that. Spin. Back in the day. You know one of those cool...

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: They used to have cool music magazines. Like Spin was a cool music magazine. There was another one. What was the other one? Max, no. No, Maxim was like a guy's magazine. But like, remember Rolling Stone used to be cool?

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Used to be cool. It was like, before it was like a propaganda arm. It was like you'd get interesting stories. And this was in, I think it was Spin magazine.

Brian Redban: Spin, yeah. There was another one that was like Spin. That's what I'm trying to remember. Let's see if you can find Peter Duesberg article AIDS. Eazy-E died only a month after he was diagnosed.

Joe Rogan: Whoa. He went full blown that fast?

Brian Redban: He might have been diagnosed with full blown.

Joe Rogan: Right.

Brian Redban: Wow. Some rapper thinks it was a conspiracy that he was killed by the government.

Joe Rogan: Well, that's fun. I mean, Ice Cube had that whole album saying that he got fucked in the ass by Dr. J in a baseball bat. No Vaseline or whatever.

Brian Redban: Yeah. Well, who knows? He's cute. Don't you remember when Suge Knight was on, I think he was on Jimmy Kimmel Show, talking about how you just inject somebody with AIDS?

Joe Rogan: Oh, yeah. You could inject them with AIDS. Like the mosquitoes.

Brian Redban: Yeah. What was my question? Oh, Peter Duesberg, Spin Magazine.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, so he wrote this article about it, and then he, I believe he wrote a book about it, but he's fucked. Like, his career completely stalled out after that. He couldn't get funding for things. And, you know, widely dismissed by all most all other scientists. And back then, I used to think it doesn't make sense that this one guy has figured things out and that nobody else does. But now I'm like, maybe it's the same as what happened during COVID. But maybe back then there's no Internet and maybe back then they could just get away with it. Maybe back then they got used to getting away with it, which is why they tried it again in 2020. That's why they did the exact same thing to all those legitimate professors, legitimate doctors. They shamed them and banned them. They didn't want anybody deviating. And that's, I think, what they might have done to this guy. That's crazy to think that the whole AIDS crisis might have really been about people destroying their immune system through hardcore drug use. That was his contention. People were saying it's very homophobic. It's like, okay, let's say a bunch of nice things about gay people. We love them. I have no problem with gay people. Let's say it. Like if you talking about this, if you were a doctor back then, gay people are amazing. However, all these gay people are doing drugs. All these gay people that are getting AIDS, something like 90% of them were hardcore drug users. This was his contention. And you would say, well, that's what opens them to the type of behavior that you get AIDS with. Like, okay, right. But Sam Kinison had a bit about that. Do you remember his bit? He was like they say Sam, AIDS is a communicable disease, straight people get it too. Name one. Name one fucking guy. It's not our fucking dance.

Brian Redban: He didn't write the article but he's definitely in the article.

Joe Rogan: Right. There was an article about him.

Brian Redban: No, he didn't write the article. Did I say he wrote it?

Joe Rogan: No, no. I'm just for clarification.

Brian Redban: No, it was an article about Bob Guccione. Spin magazine.

Joe Rogan: Isn't he the guy that owns Penthouse?

Brian Redban: I think so, right? No. Bob Guccione Jr., founder of Spin.

Joe Rogan: Maybe. Maybe. Okay, listen to this. So this is what he wrote, what Bob Guccione Jr. wrote. Scroll up a little higher. At the end of 1989, two years after we started the highly controversial AIDS column in Spin, we published an article by Cecilia Farber called "The Sins of Omission" about the truly bad and corrupt science surrounding promoting AZT as a treatment for the syndrome of diseases. Celia was the editor and frequent writer of the column and unearthed hard evidence of the cold bloodedness of the AIDS establishment, pushing a drug that was worse than the disease and killed faster than the natural progression of AIDS left untreated. AZT had been an abandoned cancer drug, discarded because of its fatal toxicity, resurrected in the cynical belief that AIDS patients were going to die anyway, so trying it out was sort of like playing with the house's money. Because the drug didn't require the usual massive expensive research and trial processes, having gone through that years earlier, it was insanely profitable for its maker, Burroughs Wellcome. It was a tragically perfect storm of windfall profits, something to pacify AIDS activists and the media, and a convenient boom to the patent holders for HIV testing. Oh, patent, excuse me, patent owners, patent holders for HIV testing. Celia, who should get the Congressional Medal of Honor for her brave and relentless reporting, here and throughout the 10 years we ran the column, exposed the worthlessness of the drug, the shady studies and deals to suppress the negative findings and its awful and final consequences. This piece very literally changed the media's view of AIDS and sharpened their discerning and skeptical eye. And soon after, AZT was once again shelved, hopefully this time forever. Many times over the years since, people have come up to me and said that reading this article saved their lives, that they either stopped taking the drug and their health improved vastly, or they never took it because of what we reported. Nothing ever made me prouder. Bob Guccione Jr., founder of Spin, October 3, 2015. So this article is all about Peter Duesberg's perspective on this. And it's very complicated, and it's certainly not for a guy like me to figure out if he's telling the truth or if he's correct. But what they said about AZT and chemotherapy and pushing AZT through and how they made a bunch of money, that's all true. They were not only that, but they were giving AZT to people that showed no symptoms, like Arthur Ashe. Arthur Ashe tested positive. They gave him AZT. There's a bunch of people died from taking AZT that probably didn't have to die.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: That's scary shit, man. And if it's the same guy that pushed the vaccine during the AIDS crisis... the COVID crisis, it's kind of fucked that he got to do it twice. Serial killer. And if he didn't do it twice, nobody probably would be aware that it was the same guy. Because even if you know about AZT, nobody was going Anthony Fauci. Nobody was saying that guy's name. You know, you weren't saying when you would talk about the AIDS crisis. They even made a movie about it, right? Dallas Buyers Club.

Brian Redban: That's the fucking movie. That's what it's about.

Joe Rogan: The bad guy in Dallas Buyers Club is Anthony Fauci.

Brian Redban: Really?

Joe Rogan: Yes.

Brian Redban: I need to rewatch it.

Joe Rogan: That's the guy keeping them from getting other medications and pushing AZT. They do the same thing. We played a video the other day where Fauci was talking about AZT. The reason why they use it is because it's both safe and effective. He used the exact same terminology. Fucking wild. It's wild.

Brian Redban: And then when Biden's leaving office, he gives him a pardon. Big old juicy pardon.

Joe Rogan: That's ridiculous. It's kind of funny.

Brian Redban: It is kind of funny, right?

Joe Rogan: It's like, God, when it's so in your face, the corruption is so up your ass and in your face. Like, bro. What are you going to do?

Joe Rogan: I don't know. Move to New York. Become a socialist. Try that out. Jesus. No thanks.

Brian Redban: That's going to be interesting to see what happens in New York.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, most likely he's not going to be able to do most of the stuff he said he was going to do.

Brian Redban: Exactly. Because he'll find out you can't.

Joe Rogan: Oh, I heard all these CEOs are moving out of there. And the stock market, I heard, is moving. I don't know if that's real. Is that real?

Brian Redban: Stock market's moving to Texas, I heard.

Joe Rogan: What? Yeah. No. They're on the stock market here. It's similar, but I don't think it's the same. Same? But you got to have a Ten Commandments on the wall and check your gun at the door.

Brian Redban: I just got my first gun. I can't wait to shoot it.

Joe Rogan: Congratulations. What did you get?

Brian Redban: So easy. Shadow Systems War Poet.

Joe Rogan: Whoa. War Poet. That sounds like something Aubrey Marcus would like.

Brian Redban: Aubrey Marcus, right? The whole time I'm like, wait, is this Aubrey's gun? He's got a signature gun.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Shadow System, though. It's like a Glock 19-ish, you know.

Brian Redban: Okay. Nine millimeter?

Joe Rogan: Nine millimeter. Have you gone to the range yet?

Brian Redban: Not yet. I need to go. I want to get a scope for it, though, too, like one of those laser scopes.

Joe Rogan: Red dot. It's called a red dot. Don't say a scope.

Brian Redban: A scope. And, of course, I need to get a silencer and all that fun stuff.

Joe Rogan: Oh, God.

Brian Redban: But it's so crazy how easy it is. You know, I didn't know it was literally walk in and go, "I want a gun," and they do a little background check and go, "Here's your gun." Like, you don't have to register it. They just make sure you're not a criminal.

Joe Rogan: Right. Yeah. It's great. Yeah. It's better. And you don't even need to do that. You could literally give somebody a gun in this state and go, "Here, that's your gun now." Like, gift a gun.

Brian Redban: The craziest thing about this country is the place with the most gun violence are the cities that have the tightest gun control.

Joe Rogan: Right. Yeah. Like, boy, you talk about counterintuitive.

Brian Redban: Yeah. I wonder if that's our same problem with drugs. I really do. I mean, I don't necessarily think it's going to be good to have all drugs legal and sold everywhere. I just don't think it's necessarily good for us. But also, it's not good to not do it. It's not good to make it illegal, because then people are just gonna get it somewhere else.

Joe Rogan: Right. And bad versions of it. This is my argument against gambling too. Especially online gambling. You know, if online gambling becomes somehow or another illegal, like if they stop with these apps, like let's say some people decide, "Look, there's so many people that are losing their money and going crazy and getting addicted to sports books that we're going to have to ban all these apps that allow you to bet on sports." And then there's a scandal that happened with the NBA, and there's another scandal with the UFC. So it's clear that organized crime is getting involved, and people are trying to make money with rigging bets and shit like that. So we're going to make it illegal. You think people are going to stop betting? It's just going to be like during the prohibition. During the prohibition, what did they do? They went out and they fucking bought illegal booze. They're going to go out and they're going to support illegal gambling. They're going to go to people's houses where they're going to have poker games and they're going to get robbed. You're just going to open people up to crime. You're going to open people up to the kind of people that are willing to risk their freedom in order to have an illegal game so they can make money. Those are wild people, man. That's the same people bringing in fentanyl. That's why they have to blow these boats up. The reason why they have to blow these boats up is because fentanyl is coming in. The reason why fentanyl is coming in is because we don't have legal drugs. We have to get it illegally, and we got a shit ton of junkies. The drugs are illegal, but they're somehow or another getting here to the point where they've ruined Portland. The whole city is filled with junkies. You got people, like, homeless people everywhere, complete chaos. It's all drugs.

Brian Redban: I think that fentanyl bin looks sexy on a girl, though.

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Brian Redban: It's crazy, but spine control. Yeah, like they're great at yoga. Some people are doing like amazing yoga. Like I've done yoga. It's hard. It's hard to stay still. These fucking dudes are like on the street like literally looking at their asshole. It's crazy. Looking back at their asshole, one leg forward, like face sniffing their own butt, and somehow or another they just hold that position with their hand out here like this. It's crazy. It must feel so good.

Joe Rogan: But legal gambling is what's killing Vegas, right? Vegas is in a lot of trouble.

Brian Redban: Vegas is in a little bit of trouble. I think the problem with Vegas is things got super expensive. They started charging people for parking. They stopped giving as many free drinks at the tables. You know, there's some... but that might have been in response to losing money too. I don't know, but that's what a lot of people complain about.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. And that's sad because I mean that's... Vegas is a tricky place because if you could do what you could do everywhere and not have to go to Vegas for it, what is it to have for you? Right. Because, I mean, that's... Vegas is a tricky place because if you could do what you could do everywhere and not have to go to Vegas for it, what is it to have for you? Right. All it has is like big event centers and the fact that you go there for a vacation. So that's why they're trying to get people to do like they do residencies, you know, like Celine Dion had the residency there. And I think, what's his face? Garth Brooks had a residency there. And a sphere.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: You have to make stuff like that. The sphere.

Brian Redban: Yeah. Like you can only go. They're building some extra spheres, right?

Joe Rogan: Yeah. The original goal was to have three of them, and I think now they've reeled back on that.

Brian Redban: There's a smaller one I saw getting made somewhere. Those mini spheres are blowing up now everywhere. They just opened up one in Dallas, and I want to invest in that company.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, it's a separate thing. That's a separate thing, but there's one place that allows you to be in front of a screen that is so big it feels like you're on the field, right?

Brian Redban: I've seen those. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan: That's the one we're talking about?

Brian Redban: It's weirdly called Cosm, and I don't think it's related to the other players.

Joe Rogan: It's not. It's not. Chapel of Sacred Mirrors. That's his. Alex Gray, leave him alone. He owns Cosm. You can't call it Cosm.

Brian Redban: Oh.

Joe Rogan: You know? That's Chapel of Sacred Mirrors. They made that Sweet Matrix version of the movie. I want to see it.

Brian Redban: What do you mean? What? I'll show you. It's insane. You haven't seen this?

Joe Rogan: No.

Brian Redban: Cosm did this? Yeah. You can still go. I think they have it in Dallas. I want to go show that. It's called Matrix in shared reality.

Joe Rogan: What?

Brian Redban: Let me find the video of the Matrix.

Joe Rogan: Wait a minute. This is a company I invest in, I think.

Brian Redban: So, well, it's the greatest way to see a fight.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. It's probably better than going live.

Brian Redban: It is probably... It's the same screen you're watching it there, right? But like, that's the movie in the middle, and then they've added all the extra shit around it to like add whatever, you know, nonsense shit to look at. But they did a similar thing with the Wizard of Oz. Like I saw people complaining about Wizard of Oz that the sphere is full of AI because they expanded the screen. But they did it, right? I've seen shit, though. It looks kind of neat.

Joe Rogan: It looks badass. They got the tornado flying around in the sphere.

Brian Redban: Why are people upset?

Joe Rogan: Because people are nonsense. "I want the old one!" You can still get the old one! It's not the sphere! You're at the sphere! Shut the fuck up! Enjoy it!

Brian Redban: "I want it to be like the old one. I want it to be grainy and make me feel like apple pie. Remind me of the olden days when that was a good movie."

Joe Rogan: Bro, you know how many people died from The Wizard of Oz? Like, how many people got sick? Like that dude that had the Tin Man. That guy got fucked up from that stuff.

Brian Redban: Makeup, yeah.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. A lot of shit happened.

Brian Redban: Isn't that crazy?

Joe Rogan: Yeah. The makeup got him. There was, I think, over ten things that happened like that on The Wizard of Oz. There was a lot of shit. Like happened like... I don't know if that hanging guy was real. Remember that guy? Did someone hang himself?

Brian Redban: Hung himself. Was that real? I don't think that was real, right?

Joe Rogan: No. It's definitely one of the longest lasting urban myths about it, though.

Brian Redban: Yeah. But what happened to the tin man?

Joe Rogan: It was the makeup.

Brian Redban: Right, but what happened to him? I'm looking it up. I think it was bad.

Joe Rogan: You've got to imagine, how toxic is that stuff? Right. Especially back then. This was back when they had the radium girls. Do you know about that?

Brian Redban: The witch had something happen to her, too. Buddy Epson, originally cast in the role as the Woodman, a.k.a. the Tin Man, was essentially poisoned by the makeup, which was made of pure aluminum dust.

Joe Rogan: Oh, my God.

Brian Redban: Nine days after filming started, he was hospitalized, sitting under an oxygen tent. When he was not getting better fast enough, the filmmakers hired Jack Haley to be the Tin Man instead. This time, instead of applying aluminum powder, the makeup artist mixed it into a paste and painted it on him. He did develop an infection in his right eye that needed medical attention, but it ended up being treatable.

Joe Rogan: So that guy just left him. He lost the role.

Brian Redban: He lost the role.

Joe Rogan: Wow, that sucks. So whatever happened to him afterwards? Yeah. Let's find out what happened to Buddy Epson after the... let's see, what if he survived? No, that can't be him. Wait, that's the original guy. That's him? I mean, they replaced him.

Brian Redban: Right, but it can't be Buddy Epson from the Beverly Hillbillies. It can't be the same guy.

Joe Rogan: That's what I'm saying. How many Buddy Epsons are there? What did that just say? Oh, yeah, it's him. That's him? Yeah. So he got lucky. Maybe. Maybe it never would have been Jed Clampett because it couldn't have been the Tin Man. That's nuts.

Brian Redban: Man, his face looks like a Tin Man now that you look at it.

Joe Rogan: Is that definitely the same guy? I mean.

Brian Redban: Does it say that? Right here. Best known for roles as Jed Clampett and Barnaby Jones.

Joe Rogan: Right. Right. But does it say that he was in...?

Brian Redban: Yeah, there's a little Tin Man like the second picture over.

Joe Rogan: I know, but that might be the other one. Is that the same guy? We'll look in his Wikipedia. I think there are two different famous Buddy Ebsons. I know. What are the odds? Well, the other guy maybe he dead. Maybe he didn't get famous. This guy jacked his name.

Brian Redban: Yeah, it signed by MGM Wizard of Oz. There it is. Wow.

Joe Rogan: That's him. He was the original Wizard of Oz. Sexy. Wow. Sexy Tim. Poisoned his ass. That's nuts, man. The witch also got sick off of her stuff.

Brian Redban: Oh, she was wearing green, right? Burns from the makeup.

Joe Rogan: Oh, she got burned.

Brian Redban: That was false. Copper makeup. Copper makeup so that it wouldn't seep through her wounds and become toxic. Unlike Epson, she didn't get fired because they could live without her on the set for several more weeks.

Joe Rogan: Oh my god. Then it's false. The actor didn't hang himself. I'm one of them playing the munchkins. True. Someone stepped on Toto. Oh no. Yeah, those movies are weird to watch now because you realize that wasn't that long ago in terms of human history. People were just weird back then.

Brian Redban: Mm-hmm. Nuts.

Joe Rogan: So what does the sphere version of The Wizard of Oz look like?

Brian Redban: So they, as an example, it's normal in the middle. Right. But then they built everything around it. So when there's a tornado, the original movie just had a little spinny tornado. Now they make this humongous tornado where you can see the clouds in the sky and this monster trunk of a tornado. It's so awesome.

Joe Rogan: Who would complain about that?

Brian Redban: Yeah, people just hear AI, don't change my movies. I just wanted to see a big version of the same old shitty movie.

Joe Rogan: Right. And while that tornado is going on, they have things flying through the air for real.

Brian Redban: Like drones?

Joe Rogan: No, no. Like things that are supposed to look like dust and stuff. Like, look at that. Oh, my God. That's amazing.

Brian Redban: Giant fans in there that throw debris in the air and shit.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Wow. Oh, my God. That's incredible. Why would anybody complain about that? You know, when they did the UFC there, I think it was at least 20 million.

Brian Redban: Oh, they spread it out? Do that again?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, they had the ad stuff that the actors would have been doing. You never know.

Brian Redban: That's what I saw people were mad about. Whether they were really mad or not.

Joe Rogan: Oh, yeah, that guy looks fake.

Brian Redban: Well, no, this is not the final version.

Joe Rogan: Oh, that's when they're working on it?

Brian Redban: That's when they were working on it.

Joe Rogan: Oh, okay. Yeah.

Brian Redban: So they had to have him walk into the scene. Look at that. Wow.

Joe Rogan: I mean, it looks badass. I want to go really bad. I'm going to go there next month to go see something.

Brian Redban: It also not the whole movie, I think.

Joe Rogan: It not? No. I thought it was.

Brian Redban: I don't think they did the entire thing.

Joe Rogan: I guess if the movie's two hours, I think it's an hour and a half or something like that.

Brian Redban: Oh, well, that's not cool. They might have cut out some songs or something.

Joe Rogan: You're not supposed to do that because then it's not going to sync up. Right, yeah. I wish they would do that, though. Like, if you go there, you get headphones and you listen to the Pink Floyd while you do that. That would be badass.

Brian Redban: Well, you would bring your phone.

Joe Rogan: Oh.

Brian Redban: And you would sync it up.

Joe Rogan: So that would piss me off if they fucked it up and made it an hour and a half instead of two hours. And I just dropped acid.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: And I was ready. I'm going to go see Zac Brown Band there next month.

Brian Redban: What is he doing in there?

Joe Rogan: He's got a residency there. He's doing the Sphere.

Brian Redban: What is he doing with like the craziness in the sky?

Joe Rogan: I don't know. He said he was working on, they've been working on a lot of cool stuff, but I didn't ask him.

Brian Redban: Oh, he probably can't tell you anyway.

Joe Rogan: Right. Right, until the thing. So who's been there? They had Grateful Dead.

Brian Redban: Fish.

Joe Rogan: Fish. Right.

Brian Redban: Was it Fish?

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Fish was there. U2 started it.

Brian Redban: U2 started it.

Joe Rogan: Right. U2 did the first one. And the Backstreet Boys or something weird like that was there.

Brian Redban: NSYNC.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Backstreet Boys. When I was there the weekend it started and I was walking around wondering why everyone was dressed in white. I don't know how you do this and how you tell people to do this. Everyone showed up in white.

Brian Redban: For the Backstreet Boys?

Joe Rogan: For every show. 20,000 people.

Brian Redban: Wow. For the Backstreet Boys?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, mostly girls, guys too. Wait, I don't know how you communicate that. I don't know. It was very strange. Walking around Vegas seeing everyone dressed in white jeans, white shirts.

Brian Redban: Ew.

Joe Rogan: What? What is fucking happening? Oh, the Backstreet Boys are here. And you leave at 11:30 and they're all walking around drunk and still all in one.

Brian Redban: Bro, the Backstreet Boys were huge when I was 21. If you had told me when I was 38, they would be playing in the most sophisticated dome, the most sophisticated auditorium, whatever you want to call it, stadium that anyone's ever performed in. I'd be like, what? And selling it out.

Joe Rogan: I've got the list of acts now. Yeah, Zac Brown starts in a couple weeks.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: No Doubt's coming in May.

Brian Redban: No Doubt?

Joe Rogan: Yep.

Brian Redban: Wow.

Joe Rogan: Kenny Chesney's also been there. Do you know how much money it must cost to run? Because the UFC budget was way over because of it. Because they had these big, crazy animated things that were going on in the background. It was fucking cool as shit, man. Just walking into the building the first time, I was like, this is nuts.

Brian Redban: That's awesome.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, it was really, truly impressive. And I guess the outside is insane too, you know?

Brian Redban: Yeah, it's cool the visuals they have on that. Like the advertisement too, like they'll just have like... Truly impressive. Truly impressive. And I guess the outside is insane, too. You know?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: It's cool, the visuals they have on that. Like, the advertisement, too. Like, you know, they'll just have, like, Samsung phones on this big...

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Yeah, after a while, it's just going to be drones in the sky. Just pixel-sized drones. Just trillions of them playing a movie out. I mean, that sounds crazy, but so does a screen. So does a, you know?

Brian Redban: Right. A giant...

Joe Rogan: I was watching some guy reviewing the biggest TV you can buy now. It's like 118 inches. 130, I think.

Brian Redban: Is it really?

Joe Rogan: Yeah. I think I know what you're talking about.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: So maybe it's, you know, the thing about these things is like maybe the video I watched is seven months old.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: Right. And now there's one that's...

Brian Redban: Was it Linus Tech Tips?

Joe Rogan: No, someone else. Some guy. And he was like, you can sit it on a cabinet, but it weighs 240 pounds. So you have to have like a super sturdy cabinet. But most people should just hang them on the wall. But you do not try to hang it on the wall by yourself. It's just way too heavy.

Brian Redban: What is it? It's 10 days old. It's a 116-inch TV.

Joe Rogan: Oh, so that's the biggest?

Brian Redban: I don't know. I just typed in biggest TV. It's the largest TV in the world. Maybe it's a mid-LED. I think there's something a little bigger than that. Maybe it is 116 inches. Unboxing the biggest TV yet. Unbox therapy.

Joe Rogan: The thing I like that's cool that nobody can get is what Justin Bieber and Kanye have in their warehouses, which is like a giant Jumbotron screen. And they're watching TV and watching movies.

Brian Redban: A giant jumbotron.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, I don't like that. So they made a movie theater. It's like they're practicing for their arena shows, and they're just...

Brian Redban: What? Yeah, hear me.

Joe Rogan: Really?

Brian Redban: No.

Joe Rogan: So a jumbotron like you would have at Madison Square Garden, and they have one in their house. Justin Bieber.

Brian Redban: You've been following Bieber?

Joe Rogan: Wait a minute. Justin Bieber's doing a Twitch stream?

Brian Redban: He started doing Twitch recently, yeah.

Joe Rogan: What?

Brian Redban: Yeah, he's just live streaming. He's making videos and practicing. He's got a basketball hoop and golf shoes there.

Joe Rogan: How many people are watching while he's doing this?

Brian Redban: I don't know. He also doesn't really communicate with the fans or anything. They just kind of have it on. That thing back here is a giant screen. I don't know if you could see it on.

Joe Rogan: That's so weird. How many people are watching this while it's streaming?

Brian Redban: Well, this video has 250,000 views from 13 days ago.

Joe Rogan: Right, but this is a YouTube video. This isn't an actual stream. This is a reposting of it.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: Is it on his channel? No.

Brian Redban: Yeah. The bug is his channel. No, this isn't his channel. I don't want to show the video. So the 242 are on someone else's channel. So they taken his stream and reposted it.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, I guess. He's just making his video or making songs. But it's not showing the screen I wanted to show you. How do you know about this? Are you a Belieber?

Brian Redban: I mean, he's got good songs. He's got good songs. He's a golfer.

Joe Rogan: Oh, he's a golfer.

Brian Redban: Oh, he's a golfer.

Joe Rogan: It's that cult, the cult of the wall. Cult of the little white ball. LeBron got the bug. Kevin Hart got the bug. I saw Kevin Hart got the bug. You motherfuckers. Everyone's got that goddamn golfing bug.

Brian Redban: Kevin Hart?

Joe Rogan: Yeah. I bet Redban never gets that bug.

Brian Redban: No, I ain't. Fuck that shit. It's never going to happen. They'll never get you with that. I don't want that. No. They'll never get you. It sounds horrible. They'll never get you with some outdoor activity. Fuck off. Fuck off. Whatever. It wouldn't be that. I don't want to do archery.

Joe Rogan: Archery? You want to do archery?

Brian Redban: I used to do archery in middle school.

Joe Rogan: Well, when we open up, what's that? Kanye watching a basketball game on his screen. Can I get a perspective? That's Kanye down there.

Brian Redban: What?

Joe Rogan: That's awesome. No way. For real? That's how he watches TV? I don't, I mean.

Brian Redban: It's a hundred foot screen?

Joe Rogan: That'd be cool. That's a thing like, that's badass.

Brian Redban: Is that like the panel thing?

Joe Rogan: That's all before the anti-Jew stuff when they killed his bank account.

Brian Redban: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan: Is that like the panel things, like where they put those panels?

Brian Redban: Bro, go back to that. That's insane. Joe, get that for the studio so we can go watch basketball.

Joe Rogan: You know we're doing another studio? Circuit of America.

Brian Redban: That is so awesome, dude. That amusement park there looks so fucking cool, dude.

Joe Rogan: It's sick. They have great restaurants that are opening up there. They have a fitness center there. It's dope. It's pretty dope. And the track is incredible.

Brian Redban: Yeah, but is it going to be like Traffic Nightmare around there? Because that area is already kind of a Traffic Nightmare around there.

Joe Rogan: Helicopter in. It's not the best place to drive to sometimes. I went to see Garth Brooks there recently. It was nuts. So many people there. I saw Eminem there. That was nuts.

Brian Redban: Oh, you saw Eminem there?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: Oh, damn. I didn't even know he was there.

Joe Rogan: It was great. It was great. He looks good. And he put on a very energetic show. He still can flow fast. It was really good. It was a great show. And who else did we see there? Oh, Post Malone was there. I saw Post Malone there a couple times. I saw him when he did the country music tour. So he was doing like mostly like country, a lot of acoustic songs, a lot of acoustic guitar. It was great.

Brian Redban: Posty. Here's a fun story about Posty. When I met him, he met my fiance Janice, who's Asian, and he exchanged phone numbers with her. And then I find out later how he's got like the biggest Asian fetish ever.

Joe Rogan: Oh no.

Brian Redban: And I'm like, and so Janice and him text, have text proof. I'm like, oh no. She calls him Posty as a joke just to piss me off. Like, "Oh Posty, what's..." Can he just be a friend? He loves Asian girls more than me.

Joe Rogan: That's hilarious. It is a thing. Dudes who love Asian girls, it becomes a thing.

Brian Redban: Yeah. I don't know why, but it seems to stick.

Joe Rogan: It's probably like Chun-Li from Street Fighter as a kid, you know, seeing her in that little dress.

Brian Redban: That can't be it. That can't be the only reason.

Joe Rogan: That's ridiculous. I don't know. It's interesting though, right? It becomes a type.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. That... Oh, I saw the Stones there.

Brian Redban: Oh.

Joe Rogan: That was nuts. That was nuts.

Brian Redban: So it's outdoor concert there?

Joe Rogan: Yeah. I mean they have a huge stage. And the Stones was like over 100,000 people were there for it.

Brian Redban: Wow.

Joe Rogan: Cause it was also during Circuit of the Americas. It was bananas, man. Like you can't even believe you're seeing it. So it's so nuts. It's one of those things where you're like, is that really Mick Jagger out there? Like, this is, you know what I mean? Like, some people chain a level of, like, legendary status that you can barely believe they're real when you see them in person. That was what it was like. They were great, man. Like, put on a great fucking show at 1,000 years old.

Brian Redban: Have you raced a car there? Is that possible?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, I've driven around. I haven't raced anybody, but I've gone fast.

Brian Redban: I want to go fast.

Joe Rogan: Right. Yeah. I took the, well, I've driven a few cars around there. I drove my car, which is a GT3 RS, a 2007 GT3 RS. I took that around the track. I took a Ford GT. It's another car I have. I took that around the track. And then recently I drove, they have a new Corvette, the Corvette ZR1.

Brian Redban: Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan: It's a thousand horsepower.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: A thousand horsepower Corvette. It was bananas. By far the best car I've ever driven.

Brian Redban: Really?

Joe Rogan: By far.

Brian Redban: You going to get one?

Joe Rogan: A hundred percent. Really? One thousand one hundred thousand percent.

Brian Redban: Yeah. It looks sexy too. I love it.

Joe Rogan: No dude, it it incredible. It incredible. I mean it just like it so engineered man. Like, when you're driving around the track, we were going fast, and the thing was just gripping, gripping. The handling is so balanced because it's a mid-engine car now. You know, from the C8, the 8th version, like, from Tony's on, is all, like, super balanced out now because the engine is in the middle of the car. It's just, like, so planted.

Brian Redban: Is it better than a, I mean, Porsches have mid-engine cars too. Is it better than Porsche handles?

Joe Rogan: Porsche's mid-engine cars are the Caymans and the Boxster. Those are the mid-engine cars. The other ones are rear-engine cars, which is a little more tricky. Rear-engine cars, it's like when the ass end kicks out, you got to keep on the gas or the car will spin out on you. It's a little different. You know, like a lot of people don't, they like it because you can control that. And once you get to control it, it can actually help you on the track. That's why one of the fastest cars in the world around the Nürburgring is the Porsche 911 GT3 RS, which is a rear-engine, rear-wheel-drive car. And it's one of the fastest cars around the Nürburgring because when you know how to drive it, that weight balance can actually assist you, and they're just so well-engineered. But the Corvette's faster.

Brian Redban: It is?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: What's its 0-60?

Joe Rogan: Well, its 0-60 is way faster. It's a faster car. It's a spaceship. It's a nutty car. I don't know if it's faster around the Nürburgring. As a matter of fact, I don't think it is. I think it's like a hair behind it, which is interesting because it's a lot more horsepower. But that's also a professional race car driver drove the Porsche, and Corvette set its record for the fastest American car ever built around the Nürburgring with a Corvette engineer, not even a professional race car driver. And so professional race car drivers, like there's some guys on YouTube, they've looked at the footage because you can watch the dash cam footage. They said, "I could take about 10 seconds off this." Which is nuts.

Brian Redban: More than a Model S Plaid, though? The new ones? They're really fast, too.

Joe Rogan: But they're not as fast around corners. You know what I mean? Like the Nürburgring and a lot of these tracks, it's not just about how fast you go. It's about what kind of suspension you have. And the Model S Plaid in some ways is limited by the width of the tires and the suspension. It's a great car for driving regular streets. But if you were going to do a car like that and take it on the track, you would do what I did with mine, the unplugged performance one.

Brian Redban: Badass.

Joe Rogan: That's different. That could probably go around a track faster than anything.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: Because it has super wide tires. It's a wider body because they add carbon fiber fenders, wider tires, and then insane braking power. That car's a future car. That car's from the future. It's sexy as fuck. It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever driven.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: By everything else I have, all the fast, supposedly fast cars, they're all pussy cars compared to that thing.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: That robot just, silent, goes faster than all of them. Faster, handles incredible, and it's really heavy. Those are really heavy cars.

Brian Redban: I've never even seen the Mercedes-AMG one as the fastest on the Nürburgring.

Joe Rogan: Wow, that's sexy. That's basically a race car. 6:30. It's a minute faster than the Tesla Plaid in 2023.

Brian Redban: What is that exhaust on the top?

Brian Redban: See, that's the thing about a Tesla Plaid. 7:30 used to be awesome. Like when my GT3 RS came out, I think it was like 7:40. A professional race car driver took it around the Nürburgring, which is kind of nuts. But now I think the Corvette is under seven. I think it's like 6:50.

Joe Rogan: What is the Corvette's time?

Brian Redban: So number one is it? Yeah, okay. 6:49. 6:49. That's crazy. So that's a full minute almost faster than the GT3 RS that I have.

Joe Rogan: So look at that. So below that, so it is faster than the GT3 RS, which is nuts. Because the GT3 RS and the GT2 RS have always been like the ones that everybody looks at.

Brian Redban: 0.05. Yeah, real close. Real close. But again, the Corvette is being driven by a guy who's an engineer. The Porsche is being driven by a race car driver. There is a difference. Those engineers are awesome drivers, but that's like, you know, you play basketball in college, you're really good. Now you have to play against LeBron. There's a difference. And it's also pre-production, right?

Joe Rogan: Yeah. And then there's the GT2 RS, the Manthe. So what Manthe is, it's like a performance company. They take a regular GT2 which is a nutty car. It's a turbocharged GT3 RS essentially. And it's got more than 700 horsepower. It's an insane car. So that's a little faster. But the regular GT2 RS is not as fast around the 'Ring.

Brian Redban: So that's an MR. That's another modified vehicle. It's another company. That's a GT3 RS. But then GT2 RS is what I'm asking about. So there's the GTD. That's the Ford Mustang. That's the new crazy Mustang that they just came out with. These are nutty numbers, man. Like, off the charts, insane numbers. And they're going to get faster and faster. When Elon was here, he was trying to tell me, without telling me, how insane that little sportster car, whatever it's called, the Roadster.

Joe Rogan: Oh, the Bigfoot. Whatever that thing is going to be.

Brian Redban: Roadster. Bigfoot.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, Sasquatch. Yeah, okay. But he said they're going to have a product demonstration sometime in the beginning of the year. He said January, February.

Brian Redban: They had that 13 years ago, too. I mean, I wish he would bring that out. God, that's like the sexiest. How many people put a deposit down? A lot. And a lot of people have canceled their deposits. Including Sam Altman.

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: MK did recently also. So, I mean, I don't understand what the problem is. Like, why not just release one?

Joe Rogan: Because you can't.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Because you're busy.

Brian Redban: Well, but he's releasing other things. He's got rockets to make.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. He doesn't have the time.

Brian Redban: I like my Hummer. That's my favorite car.

Joe Rogan: What's that?

Brian Redban: From the time he's been here, they've already pushed it back to April 1st now.

Joe Rogan: Oh.

Brian Redban: That's an article I just found. For the demonstration? Three days ago.

Joe Rogan: Oh, so.

Brian Redban: Okay. So, 2027.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Are we going to get this before TTI? Tesla delays reveal of production Roadster. To April Fool's Day. See, it's not, he's fucking with everybody. That's funny. Come on, that's funny.

Brian Redban: No, it's definitely funny. That's actually funny.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Look at that. Let me see the image again. Gives him some deniability. Bro. If that thing does come out, though, that's going to be so much fun. That's zero to 60 in some stupid number. Because the Tesla Plaid, my car does it in 1.9.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: 1.9. It's crazy. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what that's going to do it in, but it's probably going to be like 1.4 or something insane, which is one second. It's basically a second. My Hummer does it in 2 and that's scary as fuck, dude. And the whole front goes up like a boat and you're just looking at the sky.

Brian Redban: Really?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: Are they having a hard time selling those?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, 100%.

Brian Redban: Why?

Joe Rogan: They're cool. They're really cool. I think it's just, I don't know, man. It's just expensive. It's a very expensive car.

Brian Redban: You're always ranting about it, though. You love it.

Joe Rogan: It's my favorite car, and it's just ridiculous that it's so much fun to drive. It's the funnest car I've ever driven. And little things like that, where you go fast and the whole thing goes up like a boat, it's so hilarious. They just released Super Crab Walk also, just like an update where it's even more ridiculous. Like you could just drive sideways kind of.

Brian Redban: Super Crab Walk.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. It's fun. You should borrow my car sometime to go out. It's fucking awesome. Have you been in a Cybertruck yet?

Brian Redban: I have, but I haven't driven one. And, you know, that's something I canceled my reservation for. That's why I got the Hummer. But I'm still, I got that tick, like I kind of want it still, but I don't know. If you did it, you should put cat stickers all over it. Cat stickers. You know what I mean? Like put your Death Squad cat, like wrap it and stuff. I would wrap it that way people would definitely fuck with it.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, I can't do that. Dudes would piss all over your car or something.

Brian Redban: Right. Like I wanted to get Redban as my license plate and I was like, available. I was like, I can't do that.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, but that'd be cool.

Brian Redban: Yeah, you're just asking to get stalked. Like I roast you, you know, I'll be like that. That was back when Tony wanted attention.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Now he's hiding.

Brian Redban: Hey, I'm hiding. I'm hiding. Now he's got tinted windows. When you, like maybe you can put Redban in like a code.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. That would actually be more fun. I almost said what my license plate is. I mean, I kind of did.

Brian Redban: Oh, did you?

Joe Rogan: Yeah. That's a douche move, right? Having a, like, I've never, I'd had one.

Brian Redban: December 2012.

Joe Rogan: 2012.

Brian Redban: Yeah, 2012. That was the end of the Mayan calendar.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. That's right, you did have one. What if that really did? Like we're gonna look back and that's when something happened and we just didn't realize something had happened?

Brian Redban: Yeah. Like there's some technological breakthrough. They're gonna point back to December 21st, 2012.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. They're gonna say, "Oh, that's when everything went weird."

Brian Redban: 100%. Probably right.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, that and COVID. We got two updates during those two times. COVID was the big one.

Brian Redban: Yeah. I had someone trying to tell me it was the most painful conversation that every time your nose got swabbed during COVID they put micro particles in your body and they can turn them on or off and make you tired or make you like... I was like, "Why am I having this conversation?" He goes, "If you research this, if you research this..." I was like, "What are you talking about?" This is the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life. Like everybody's got it and 90% of the people on the planet have these things in their body and they can just turn them on and turn them off. Okay, what? Where is this technology coming from? Where do they have it? You know how many steps have to be taken before they inject stuff into people? They have to be sure that it works.

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: Did you see Kim Kardashian doesn't believe we went to the moon?

Joe Rogan: Everybody's been watching. Everybody's been watching the show. We're dropping knowledge on Kim. Old Kim's catching it. It's funny watching her be into that. She's catching it. Old Kim's getting red pilled.

Brian Redban: Yeah. That's great, bro. When you watch Richard Nixon having a conversation with the guys, "Congratulations, boys, you're on the moon." He's got a phone. He's got a landline. He's calling the guys on the moon. Shut the fuck up. Just shut your fucking hole. There is no way that phone is connected to anybody other than another phone.

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: I didn't even know about the phone thing. That's ridiculous.

Joe Rogan: Well, that's one of the things that Gus Grissom complained about. He hung a lemon. He put a lemon on a coat hanger and hung it on the lunar module because they couldn't communicate with the people that were in the command center. They were all trying to communicate, and he was pissed off. It wasn't working, so he put a lemon in it. He hung it on the door, and that's the dark, dark conspiracy because he burned to death inside that thing.

Brian Redban: Really?

Joe Rogan: Yeah. And his family thinks that they murdered him because he wasn't willing to go along with the moon hoax. He was supposed to be the original pilot.

Brian Redban: Yeah. Did you follow that conspiracy that all the Challenger astronauts are still alive?

Joe Rogan: Oh, I've seen that. I've seen that. I love that one. You want to know what's not a conspiracy that Elon told us? If they made the Challenger out of steel instead of aluminum, it wouldn't have burnt up like that.

Brian Redban: Really?

Joe Rogan: Yeah. That's what he said. He said it was about the tiles.

Brian Redban: Right. Isn't that nuts?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, because that's how it happened. The tiles break off, yeah, but aluminum just heats up too fast and disintegrates. It falls apart.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: That's why he uses steel. Like, those things are all the spaceships that he's making.

Brian Redban: Does he cast them like he does his cars, I wonder? Like, you know what I mean? I can't say how they do it, I don't think. I don't think we could say, right?

Joe Rogan: All right, don't tell me. I don't care.

Brian Redban: I don't think we should say.

Joe Rogan: But it's steel. I'll tell you, it's steel. It's steel. It's crazy looking, man. When you see them in person, you're like, "Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun."

Brian Redban: Yeah, that's a trip.

Joe Rogan: It's literally like you're inside of the Death Star, and you're looking at some spaceship that they're constructing. Or you're with the Resistance or whoever Luke Skywalker was with. It's weird, man. It's weird because these are spaceships. They're going to go into space and eventually, supposedly, go to Mars. I'm good.

Brian Redban: You're not going to go.

Joe Rogan: No. Fuck that. I'm not going.

Brian Redban: But if you had a choice between Earth is going to be hit by the biggest asteroid that's ever impacted Earth in five years, there's no way we're going to avoid it.

Joe Rogan: Right.

Brian Redban: And we figured out a way to grow food on Mars. Who's in?

Joe Rogan: I might go to Mars. Then I'll go. But I want to be passed out like my colonoscopy where I just wake up and I'm like, "Oh, I'm here."

Brian Redban: Could you imagine watching from Mars when Earth gets hit with an asteroid? You watch it in real time.

Joe Rogan: Wow. You see this big flash in the sky, and like a quarter of Earth looks like it's on fire. God, bro. Very intense.

Brian Redban: Bro. Imagine being on the surface of Mars watching Earth get destroyed, going, "Oh, boy, we've got to make the most of this."

Joe Rogan: I feel like you'd barely see it, wouldn't you? You have telescopes and shit. You could barely see it.

Brian Redban: With your eyes, you mean?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, with your eyes, you could barely see it, for sure. And wouldn't it be like years later you would see it?

Brian Redban: No. It'll be a few seconds later.

Joe Rogan: Right. But if, yeah, if you were using a telescope, you definitely would be able to see it. But with the naked eye, it'd be a little tiny dot. Because it's only, Mars is only like, what, three quarters the size of Earth? How big is Mars in relationship to the size of Earth? And you could barely see Mars, right? So Earth would only be like a slight bit bigger.

Brian Redban: And then going back to Earth after to see it would be crazy. Just watch cannibals. Just all people looking up at you over rib cages wearing human skin. That's probably what people were like after the asteroids impacted. You know, the people that have survived like these big, huge extinction events.

Joe Rogan: Okay.

Brian Redban: Oh, it's a lot smaller than Earth. It's half the size, basically. Almost a little bit more than half the size.

Joe Rogan: Wow. So we could barely see that. So you could barely, barely see Earth too. You know, Terrence Howard has the craziest idea about planets. And again, I don't know if he's right, but it's fun. He thinks that planets are made out of chunks of stuff that gets ejected from the sun and eventually gravity coalesces, and as it moves further and further away from the sun, it gets to the point where it can support life. And he said you probably experience that all over the cosmos. It's probably like peopling. Like things get to a stage where it could support life, and then life exists for long enough where intelligent life develops, and that happens all over the cosmos. That's his thought. And then maybe these people that we see when you meet aliens, maybe that's future versions of people. And that peopling is a natural thing just like you grow crops. Oh, the crops are fruiting. We're going to get apples. We're going to go pick apples today because the tree lived long enough. The seeds planted long enough. Now it grows fruit. Now you can go eat your apples. Imagine we're just a farm, just a people farm.

Brian Redban: That makes sense.

Joe Rogan: Everyone would say, "No, that doesn't make any sense." Listen, nothing about this world makes sense. Fucking literally nothing. Nothing about life makes sense. It's all very strange. And you don't think it's possible that this is a stage on the way to becoming some new kind of life form and that has happened already somewhere else and they come to visit to make sure we're okay?

Brian Redban: Of course that's possible. I'm leaning more towards simulation theory more and more the older I get.

Joe Rogan: Yeah?

Brian Redban: Yeah, 100%.

Joe Rogan: For real, for real?

Brian Redban: 100% or 100%.

Joe Rogan: All right. Why? What's your argument for why the simulation theory is real?

Brian Redban: Because you can kind of see right now the idea. Look at AI chatbots or look at AI talking to AI. You could already kind of see artificial intelligence now, like a baby version of it. Imagine 100 years from now. Imagine thousands of years ago and we are the AI. I just see that, that just seems like it makes sense that aliens created us as AI in this fake world. So this is just a program running.

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: I don't know. Look, it's a fun one.

Joe Rogan: Let's talk about that stupid quantum computer.

Brian Redban: Okay, what is that?

Joe Rogan: Right. So if that thing can do that, if it could run a calculation that would take every computer on Earth 2.6 billion years to solve, and it could do it in a few minutes, what is... What kind of rendering can that thing do? You know? Like, what kind of experience can that thing provide to my simple monkey neurons? What... I wear a headset. You were telling me about those weird online games where they're never ending. You explore space and there's universes, but there's no end to the game. You just go places and see things and you can go to a new place and see a new thing. And it's constantly rendering a new version of it. Well, what's that? What is that? And now you add a bunch of variables like life forms, this and natural disasters and ideological capture and all this different shit and trannies in the women's room. All that stuff, like add that to it and all the chaos of war and of fucking, you know, Samsung can't get their shit together. Put it all together to keep you confused and chaotic and like you're guessing constantly. Everything's madness. Like this is – that's how I would make a simulation. I would make a simulation that's fucking completely bananas. Some old guy gets shot in the ear, jumps up and goes, "Fight, fight, fight." Crazy stuff.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: The nuttier, the better. The weirder, the better. I want a communist running New York City. Run it. Run that program. Let's go.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: And all these rich kids are going to be supporting him. "Yay. Socialism." Run that program. All of it.

Brian Redban: Yeah. Run it.

Joe Rogan: And we get upgraded when we sleep at night. Maybe. It's just one of those things that's like we realize that we are building towards an event. Like human civilization clearly seems to be building towards an event. There's the military stuff, the Ukraine Russia stuff, the Gaza Palestine Israel stuff. But it's also the technology war. It's like building towards an event and how that event plays out. I don't know. And I think everyone's got a little bit of anxiety about that. You know? But at least they're letting the climate change, we're going to die shit go. Bill Gates was like the first, he sounded the first alarm. Actually, we're going to be fine. Did you see he said that recently? Bill Gates said that?

Brian Redban: Yes.

Joe Rogan: Yes. Bill Gates, the Pied Piper of "we're all going to die." The guy, literally the Paul Revere of "we're going to die" is now "we're going to be okay. We're going to be fine." So they're letting that go. So if they're letting that go, okay, good. At least you can relax on that front. So what do we have to be anxious about now? What dilemmas is the simulation providing us that are going to keep us distracted as we build towards an event? I think the real event involves AI. I think that's the real event. I think all this other stuff, the climate change stuff. And isn't it kind of weird, too, that AI literally came to us overnight? It wasn't like we saw baby versions of AI. It just seemed like, oh, one day we all have AI. Like we have, you know, all this. It came out of nowhere. I mean, when was ChatGP, or excuse me, when was OpenAI funded? When was it founded?

Brian Redban: Yeah, I don't know. Let's guess. 2017.

Joe Rogan: I was going to say the same thing.

Brian Redban: Are you serious?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, I was going to say 16.

Brian Redban: I was going to say 16. I was like, nah, 17.

Joe Rogan: Yep, 7. But it might be 15, right?

Brian Redban: Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan: What? Was it? 15?

Brian Redban: Ah.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, so 10 years ago, these motherfuckers knew that eventually we're going to figure that thing out. And then also they were probably the first people that were collecting data, right, and realizing that data is a commodity.

Brian Redban: Well, it's also a commodity in that this data allows people to use their artificial intelligence and create things, which is essentially on the back of artists, right? Like digital artists and like a lot of these people that make stuff with their hands that have a distinctive art style. You can tell it, "Make me a painting of a dog and a young boy in the style of Picasso during a very particular time period of his life," and it'll do that, but it's doing it off of Picasso's work.

Joe Rogan: Right, right, yeah. So it's trained on, yeah. Like if you say, "Make me a Frank Frazetta of Conan the Barbarian that's never been seen."

Brian Redban: Did you do that?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, that's how...

Brian Redban: Should we do that?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, let's put that into Perplexity.

Brian Redban: Yeah, and have it... It doesn't do images, I don't think so.

Joe Rogan: Alright, that's an issue. Make Greta Thunberg have big boobs.

Brian Redban: Alright. When you use AI, like what programs are you using? Programs that do deep fakes? Are you using programs that do video generation? Are you using Sora?

Joe Rogan: I use Sora all the time.

Brian Redban: Is that the best one for videos, right?

Joe Rogan: They all kind of suck. Sometimes Sora's the best, other times Grok's great. I mean, every day I'm just trying to go back and forth between them two, but I would say Sora's probably the best one right now, but then next week some other one will come out, you know, and be better. So I'm always jumping around. Brett Weinstein was explaining something really interesting about NVIDIA and a lot of these companies that make video cards, that their design of these video cards is uniquely good for AI generation. And that's why they're so huge now. These companies are bigger than any other company.

Brian Redban: I asked it to do it. There you go.

Joe Rogan: Okay.

Brian Redban: Wow. That looks good.

Joe Rogan: I don't know if that was that. Holy shit. No, that's from like Cobra Commander's thing or something like that. That's incredible. That looks great. I'm staying corrected. So tell it, tell Perplexity to make him look older and more scarred.

Brian Redban: And vulnerable.

Joe Rogan: Well, no, he was always mean. More scarred.

Brian Redban: Okay.

Joe Rogan: I think they're doing it based on Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Brian Redban: Oh.

Joe Rogan: Because the hair was lighter and Conan's hair was like jet black in the books.

Brian Redban: Ooh, look how it generates it.

Joe Rogan: I like that.

Brian Redban: This is wild. Perplexity.

Joe Rogan: Cool. Make him look older and more scarred.

Brian Redban: Oh, that's so cool.

Joe Rogan: Get a little...

Brian Redban: Oh my god, they fucking nailed it. That is perfect. Holy shit, dude. That's incredible.

Joe Rogan: What's that? Fake signature? Oh wow.

Brian Redban: That's cool.

Joe Rogan: What is the signature? It's illegible. He's wearing un-boots. That's the kind of boots they wore back then. Damn, that's pretty fucking good. And the dragon has three arms.

Brian Redban: Now make him in a scene where he's fighting armed skeletons.

Joe Rogan: Ooh.

Brian Redban: So we're going to have the old dude with the scars fighting skeletons.

Joe Rogan: We're 12.

Brian Redban: Now animate it.

Joe Rogan: That's cool.

Brian Redban: Now give him a big old hog.

Joe Rogan: Big old floppy.

Brian Redban: Oh, whoa. What happened to his hair? Where is his hair? He's getting older.

Joe Rogan: That's Arnold Schwarzenegger. That's not Arnold, yeah. That's weird. That's not Conan.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Okay. Give him good, but give him long black hair and pouty lips. Put pouty lips, just to see what happens. Give him hair, jet black and longer.

Brian Redban: Alright, here we go. Put him in pigtails.

Joe Rogan: It's wild how this thing can just do this. I love this shit. This is all I mean, I just do this for hours. And all it takes is a prompt, and you can do it with your voice. You don't even have to do it by typing it in, which is really nuts.

Brian Redban: Yeah. Um, have you...

Joe Rogan: That's better. Still a little longer with the hair. The hair needs to be a little longer, but that's okay. And that looks like he dyed it black just for Mended, right?

Brian Redban: Yeah, but they took away the weapons from the skeletons. They don't look like skeletons having that battle axe. Look, they edited that out.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, that sucks.

Brian Redban: Make the skeletons heavily armed with armor and helmets, swords, and shields.

Joe Rogan: Why did I say swords? Swords? I said it like it spelled. That's your Boston in you.

Brian Redban: He's got his swords. He's got a sword. Run, Paulie. He's going to get you. He's got his sword.

Joe Rogan: Oh, I like how it does it.

Brian Redban: Oh.

Joe Rogan: Pretty dope. That's pretty fucking dope. Although, where's the blood on the sword coming from if they're all skeletons?

Brian Redban: True. Issue.

Joe Rogan: That's an issue. That's pretty fucking good, though, dude. It's a little different than Frazetta's style.

Brian Redban: Okay, now say make it more like Frazetta's paintings. Because it's a little too detailed.

Joe Rogan: Right. Make it more like Frazetta's paintings.

Brian Redban: Skeletons are bullshit, though. All their bones would fall on the ground. There's no muscles. It's not going to stop the blade.

Joe Rogan: But they're all coming at you. There's so many of them. They're coming at you from everywhere. You know? You have to... They're scary.

Brian Redban: There's a zombie inside the skeleton, a zombie brain.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, they have no muscle. You can kick their ass.

Brian Redban: Yeah, they would just be a pile. I don't like his pussy. It's still the same. And what's that bomb on the ground? Like a World War II bomb?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, what is that? What's that? It's like a vibrator. That's a Hitachi. What is that big robot dick on the ground? Big old red rocket. That's weird.

Brian Redban: I kind of like how they've got the skeletons have shields now. Now that's cool. That looks pretty dope.

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: No one still to this day, I would love to talk Quentin Tarantino into doing it for his last film. No one to this day has done a really good Conan movie like the books.

Brian Redban: That's true. Have you ever read the books?

Joe Rogan: A long time ago. I used to be really into that and the Death Dealer.

Brian Redban: Or was it Death Dealer? Is that what his name was? Death Dealer?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: Oh, man. The guy with the big horns, black.

Joe Rogan: Death Dealer, right? Is that what it's called? It's been that too.

Brian Redban: Who's got the horns? I think it's called the Death Dealer.

Joe Rogan: Is it called the Death Dealer?

Brian Redban: Yeah, that guy.

Joe Rogan: Oh, yeah, that's the fourth picture right there. Where he's on the next to it.

Brian Redban: Oh.

Joe Rogan: To the right. So it's basically a ripoff.

Brian Redban: Yeah, that was really into those books. Is it Frank Frazetta? Unless someone made that up.

Joe Rogan: No, it is. It's Frank Frazetta also. Go to that?

Brian Redban: Yeah, that's him.

Joe Rogan: Dude, that was my favorite. That one of Frazetta's best paintings.

Brian Redban: Really?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, that the Death Dealer. I used to read those books.

Brian Redban: I didn't know there were books.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, I was obsessed with the Death Dealer.

Brian Redban: What is the book about?

Joe Rogan: I don't remember anymore, man. It was badass, though. I used to... The Death Dealer. Actually. Oh, Frank Frazetta's Volume 3, The Death Dealer.

Brian Redban: Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, that was my favorite one. That was my favorite book right there. Book two. The second one, yep.

Brian Redban: So what, does he just go around fucking killing people?

Joe Rogan: He was a badass. I think he was dead, too, if I remember. I don't even remember. See if you can go and find out what it looks like inside of it.

Brian Redban: Inside of what?

Joe Rogan: Inside of that book. It's a graphic novel, right?

Brian Redban: No, no, it's a book. It's a book book.

Joe Rogan: A book book.

Brian Redban: Oh.

Joe Rogan: And then I read that before I read Conan, and that's how I got into Conan, because I was like, "Wait, who's Conan?"

Brian Redban: Really?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: So who wrote that?

Joe Rogan: I don't know. It's not Robert E. Howard, right? James Silke.

Brian Redban: Oh, okay. So he based it on a Frazetta painting and made... Okay, okay.

Joe Rogan: So Frazetta, though, the Conan books were in the 30s.

Brian Redban: Were they?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: Oh, I didn't know it was that old.

Joe Rogan: It's really old.

Brian Redban: Wow.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, Robert E. Howard. He lived with his mom. He was super depressed and wound up killing himself. And he wrote about the most badass motherfucker that he wished he was, living in a time where there's sorcerers and dragons. And... Have you been to Conan's Pizza here in Austin?

Brian Redban: Is it related?

Joe Rogan: It's all Conan shit. You walk in, it's all Conan shit.

Brian Redban: Really?

Joe Rogan: You would love it, dude.

Brian Redban: How's the pizza?

Joe Rogan: I haven't had it. I haven't been there yet, but it looks badass. I saw it on TikTok, and it's just like a Conan fan's dream.

Brian Redban: That's hilarious.

Joe Rogan: Super nerd.

Brian Redban: Yeah, it's just everywhere.

Joe Rogan: Oh, it's all Frazetta stuff on the wall.

Brian Redban: Yeah, everywhere.

Joe Rogan: Oh, wow. What a great idea.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: It's a good way to keep chicks out.

Brian Redban: Yeah, look at the table. It's all... We're not going to the, yeah, hard seats and Conan paintings. That's how you keep chicks out. "We are not going to see those fucking gay paintings."

Joe Rogan: I want to go there, though.

Brian Redban: Why do you like those fucking gay paintings?

Joe Rogan: They're the most coolest paintings in the world. They are. They are. But I don't think that, I don't think women have the same opinion.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Have you had a guess? I don't know. I mean, I was into Red Sonja, too, but girls hate Red Sonja. Because she's too hot. She's got big old titties and she fucks everybody up.

Brian Redban: Yeah, she's too hot. Red Sonja versus Conan.

Joe Rogan: Isn't it weird that that genre caught fire? The genre of fantasy, medieval fantasy, like chain mail, iron, big swords, helmets, and then monsters, witches, warlocks. What is that? Why did the barbarian era, why was that so interesting to people?

Brian Redban: Muscles.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Like for Robert E. Howard, because he's living this bullshit soft life, living in his mom's house.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Can't get any pussy. Fuck. I'm such a loser. You know? Writing these books about a guy who's the ultimate just a destroyer, covered in scars, kills everybody, kills all the monsters, never loses. Fuck yeah. Comes close to losing a couple times. Never loses. Would you want Arnold Schwarzenegger to play Conan again?

Brian Redban: No.

Joe Rogan: What about his son?

Brian Redban: No, the best Conan of all time. First of all, how many Conans have there been? Three? Two? Three.

Joe Rogan: Movies?

Brian Redban: Yeah. I think two or three. '82, 2011, 2025.

Joe Rogan: Which one was 2011? Who starred as Conan in the 2011 one? That's a weird way to see it. Hold on a second. IMDB showed it this way. Yeah, I guess. Jason Momoa.

Brian Redban: Okay, that was 2011?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: Why did I think that was earlier than that? Okay, this one, in my opinion, Momoa was the best Conan.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. So how many of them are there other than that? There's the Red Sonja. So the Arnold ones. But nobody else did it other than Arnold. Did they ever do one? Those are animated. But did anybody ever do one other than Arnold and Jason Momoa? I don't think so.

Brian Redban: Okay. There was a TV show.

Joe Rogan: What? That's got to be animated, though. Isn't it? It has to be.

Brian Redban: No. It's not?

Joe Rogan: Wow.

Brian Redban: What? This is around the time of Xena, Warrior Princess.

Joe Rogan: Oh, I remember this. I remember that too. I remember this. It wasn't bad. He was more realistic as Conan than Arnold was because Arnold just looked like a straight bodybuilder. But Jason Momoa, see if you can find an image of Jason Momoa as Conan. He looked fucking terrifying. He looked like the most legitimate version of Conan. He's a cool dude, man. I like Jason. Is there any images of him in there? There he is. That's probably what Conan would have looked like. Big dude, but not a bodybuilder, covered in scars. I mean, tough to stay alive back then. Was that movie good? I don't remember seeing it.

Brian Redban: This was the one that was 3D, right? Terrible movie. It was terrible. But it could have been good. It started off good. It started off, I was like, "Oh, shit, this is the best version of Conan ever." Someone needs to make it like the books, you know?

Joe Rogan: Yeah. That's hard to do. That's what people used to read.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Ain't nobody reading no more.

Brian Redban: Ain't nobody reading.

Joe Rogan: I wonder how much TikTok has killed the book industry.

Brian Redban: Is it different people?

Joe Rogan: Yeah, that's different. That's different people. But I mean, how much has social media in general dropped the amount of people that read books?

Brian Redban: Well, I mean, I do so much reading from websites and Twitter and shit like that nowadays that if I was into books, I could see myself not reading as much because I'm reading all day already.

Joe Rogan: Do you find yourself using that phone because it's got a bigger screen? More to watch stuff and read stuff?

Brian Redban: Lately, I've been using my Apple Vision Pro the most just to watch movies and TikTok.

Joe Rogan: Oh, you are a real dork.

Brian Redban: Dude, it's badass.

Joe Rogan: You're a real dork. You're TikToking on an Apple Vision Pro?

Brian Redban: Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan: You're in there with them?

Brian Redban: I don't do that. I watch a movie on it.

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: It's the best way to see a movie. It's awesome.

Joe Rogan: Is it the best way to see a movie? Better than watching it on your TV?

Brian Redban: Yep.

Joe Rogan: Really?

Brian Redban: Better than going to a movie theater. It's clearer than watching it on your TV.

Joe Rogan: Really? And if you're into 3D, best 3D you can ever get. Better than any movie theater. And do you have to stay plugged in while you have it on? Or can the battery last all throughout a whole movie?

Brian Redban: The new one lasts three hours, so most movies. But I just have my MacBook charger hooked up to it.

Joe Rogan: Oh, so you can keep it plugged in.

Brian Redban: Yeah, I'm just laying on the couch, 500-inch screen on my ceiling, and have maybe an app on the side, like a message app or something.

Joe Rogan: Hey.

Brian Redban: Yeah, I guarantee you do.

Joe Rogan: Do they have that?

Brian Redban: Huh?

Joe Rogan: You can watch, yeah, all that stuff. You can watch porn?

Brian Redban: Oh, yeah. You can watch 3D porn.

Joe Rogan: Boy, that's a problem. Porn as big as like a Jumbotron?

Brian Redban: It's rough.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, I don't want that. I don't need to see that. I don't want that.

Brian Redban: And it's cool because if you hit record on it, you just go up to your dog, go up to Marshall, and then you can watch Marshall in 3D. It's so cool. It's the best way to look at photos. And the new one is just so nice, dude.

Joe Rogan: Really?

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: How come it hasn't really caught on?

Brian Redban: Because of the price. It's so expensive. I just got the new Samsung one. Samsung just released their vision of the Apple Vision Pro, and it's half the price.

Joe Rogan: What is it called?

Brian Redban: XR, Samsung Galaxy XR, I think it's called. And it's just like the Apple Vision Pro. It's a little bit not as good. But if you don't have the Apple Vision Pro, that's good for the price. That's a good alternative. And it does the same thing. And it does the same shit. Watch movies, everything. But the only problem is that I just got to see how good it was. And if you have the Apple Vision Pro, going to that, it's like going backwards.

Joe Rogan: How much backwards?

Brian Redban: I'd say like 30% backwards.

Joe Rogan: Oh, really? In quality?

Brian Redban: In quality. But it also just came out, so there's a lot of bugs and things they can fix, but there's also the pass-through. I mean, the pass-through on the Apple Vision Pro is almost perfect. You could drive. You can look at your text through it.

Joe Rogan: You drive with it on?

Brian Redban: You could, but I wouldn't.

Joe Rogan: Do you drive with it on?

Brian Redban: No, I don't do it.

Joe Rogan: You motherfucker. You're driving with an Apple Vision Pro on. You fucking psycho.

Brian Redban: No, I don't. But you could.

Joe Rogan: Well, if you saw the Palmer Lucky stuff where he has these goggles that you put on with the headset and, you know, you've seen the demonstration, right? So imagine something like that for the world where every car has a camera and everybody knows where the accident is and everybody knows what's happening.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: So even if you're on like self-drive, if you're driving yourself, you'd be alerted of things way in advance of what's happening.

Brian Redban: Yeah. Well, it should be on your windshield though.

Joe Rogan: Right. You know, like the display. Like, I love that shit. Where you're driving, you have a little speed thing pop up. You can see in the cars and see people getting roadhead.

Brian Redban: Yeah. You can see like an outline of someone's head bobbing up and down in someone's lap.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. The next step in the invasion of your privacy.

Brian Redban: Yeah, totally. So Vision Pro's been around, what, two years now?

Joe Rogan: Two years now. That's weird that Apple got ahead of everybody else. That's unusual. That's the first time, right?

Brian Redban: The first time. But they did have to have a giant brick of a battery to do that. The Samsung has it too, you still have to...

Joe Rogan: How big is the Samsung? Like a laptop brick?

Brian Redban: It's about the size of a phone right here. Like a phone. And it's not a big problem because you usually just have it on the couch and just have a wire hooked up to it.

Joe Rogan: How heavy is the one on Apple? Is it the size of a phone or is it bigger?

Brian Redban: It's about the size of a phone. It's a little smaller and it's not too heavy, but it's not like you hold it.

Joe Rogan: I thought it was like one of those things that comes with a laptop. Like those fucking bricks that come that we charge.

Brian Redban: A charging brick.

Joe Rogan: Oh, yeah.

Brian Redban: I would say it's about the size of a normal phone. It's a little smaller than this, I guess. And each one lasts like three hours. And then I have two, so I can just unplug it.

Joe Rogan: Have you ever watched Kill Tony on it?

Brian Redban: I've watched Kill Tony on it, yeah. It's fun watching YouTube and TikToks on it. So it's like a giant screen. Sometimes I edit on it. Like if I'm editing Kill Tony, I'll just put that on and then have an IMAX movie theater that I'm editing on. So it's great. Like if I'm on an airplane or something, I could sit there and have like five screens.

Joe Rogan: Wow.

Brian Redban: It's cool. It's great for airplanes, too, if you just want to sit there and watch movies and shit like that.

Joe Rogan: Right. Instead of just staring at a laptop screen.

Brian Redban: Exactly. And then everyone going, "What are you watching?"

Joe Rogan: Right. And you can watch. What is that, the original Blade Runner? That's the best one.

Brian Redban: Dude, and you can sit there and watch porn and no one will even know.

Joe Rogan: They'll know when you're dicking off.

Brian Redban: Or you put your little tray down over it.

Joe Rogan: You gotta be a special kind of fucking creep to be jacking off on a plane with a bunch of people.

Brian Redban: Yeah, I don't get that.

Joe Rogan: Some people just want to get caught. There's a lot of people out there that's part of the thrill. "I'm a naughty boy." I got a blanket over my head because I can't sleep and the blanket just happens to be moving like this.

Brian Redban: Yeah, we used to have a problem when I was manager of a movie theater of this guy that would come in. It was an old black guy and he looked like a professor or something like that. Shirt tucked in, always had a newspaper under his arm. He would just sit in the movie theater a couple rows behind somebody, put the newspaper on his lap and just jerk off. We caught him maybe six times. We banned him. Then when I switched movie theaters, I became a manager of another company in a different part of town, he was there too. I was like, "Oh, you guys got this guy here too?" He just went to movie theaters and masturbated and got caught all the time. I had to tell him three multiple times, "Dude, you're banned here. Get out of here." I mean, I should have called the police looking back at it.

Joe Rogan: That's hilarious. That's his sport.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Some people play chess.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: That guy just jacks off in movie theaters and tries to get caught.

Brian Redban: Yeah. And got caught. "I'm a naughty boy."

Joe Rogan: Right. "I'm so naughty."

Brian Redban: "I did it again."

Joe Rogan: "I came with you. I did it again." And if you saw him, he looked like a teacher. He looked so professional back then. That's probably why he's jacking off in the movie theater. He's probably buttoned down all day long at his job. Has to be proper. But really, he's a naughty, naughty boy. Wants to go whack off in a theater. That's a weird thing with dudes. Want to be naughty.

Brian Redban: You have to be a really sick girl to be fingering yourself in a movie theater. By yourself?

Joe Rogan: You're a nut. I mean, that sounds like a good girl to me.

Brian Redban: Right, but that's not something that happens often, I bet.

Joe Rogan: I bet if it's the amount of people that get caught whacking off in public, it's got to be like 99% men.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: How many women are by themselves just playing with themselves? You're probably already in a hospital if you're doing that. You're not like a functional member of society like that guy, dressed like a professor, fingering yourself.

Brian Redban: I like to think there's a lot more girls.

Joe Rogan: A boy can dream. Can't a boy dream?

Brian Redban: Yeah, if you wanted to guess the percentages, though.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, definitely guys more than girls. Way more.

Brian Redban: Yeah, probably 75-25.

Joe Rogan: 100%. I bet there's no women who've ever been caught masturbating publicly.

Brian Redban: No, there is. There's that famous video that was on TikTok recently about a girl masturbating at a beach or something that just came out.

Joe Rogan: Did she get in trouble?

Brian Redban: Yeah, it was like a body cam.

Joe Rogan: Was that real? Like, you sure it was real cops?

Brian Redban: It might be just a video that they made. There's a bunch of those where you see someone getting harassed by a cop. And they're like, "This seems like acting." Then you try to look for the case online. It doesn't exist. Like, this is bullshit. Because before AI, there was a lot of people that were just pretending to make viral videos. Like pretend arguments, pretend fights, pretend cop encounters. Like, you know, chess camp cop footage that's bullshit.

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: There's a lot of that.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. So maybe that's bullshit, too. I don't know. Who knows? Maybe she's not really playing with herself on the beach. You know how nuts you have to be? She's got some sand in there. All those little kids and their shovels. "Come shovel. Mommy's sand." It's getting all swampy wampy and mommy so the ocean leaking in. That's a dude activity. Like public masturbation. Like there's a particularly broken woman who wants to play with herself at the beach in front of everybody. Like you have to be just out of jail. Like out of your fucking mind. Like they must be looking for you already. Like by the time you're fingering yourself in front of the ocean. Like if they go into a room, they can just charge money for it. Guys can't do that.

Brian Redban: That's true.

Joe Rogan: That's true.

Brian Redban: You probably can, but only guys are going to pay for it.

Joe Rogan: You're going to have all these ladies look at my...

Brian Redban: No, you're not. No, no, no, no. You're going to have a bunch of guys. Gay guys, yeah.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, a bunch of gay guys. Yeah. It's not... Like, how many women have ever been arrested for public masturbation? Put that in. Throw that number into Perplexity. See what it has to say. Make an image of it. And then make a Frank Frazetta painting of women fighting off the masturbation police. Because like dudes jerking off in public is a scary thing. Like, "Oh, this guy's a sex criminal. He's jerking off in public." A woman playing with herself in public is just kind of sad.

Brian Redban: Hottest. No, it's hot.

Joe Rogan: Can you imagine if that was a problem? You got too many women. It would definitely be a problem if you were with your husband and you're walking along. "What a beautiful day at the park. Mike, look over here, Mike. Don't look at it. Don't watch. She's over there. Complete mommy sandbox."

Brian Redban: [Looking at his phone] It doesn't give numbers. It just gives five examples. Oh, ladies have been arrested.

Joe Rogan: Okay, let's see these people.

Brian Redban: Information. We don't have to say the name. Someone, 38-year-old, arrested in Florida, of course, masturbating during a video jail visit.

Joe Rogan: Oh, okay. That's normal.

Brian Redban: Arrested in Texas for masturbating in public while allegedly under the influence of drugs.

Joe Rogan: Crazy.

Brian Redban: Arrested in Georgia for masturbating on a public beach using a vibrator.

Joe Rogan: Whoa, that's a wild bitch.

Brian Redban: And then what's under there? Arrested in Minnesota for masturbating naked in a vehicle.

Joe Rogan: Was she driving? Was she just sitting in the car?

Brian Redban: Patrolman found her lying on the floor of an open gold Pontiac SUV, digitally penetrating herself. It's in quotes. It says "digitally penetrating herself."

Joe Rogan: Digitally? Wow. There's a 47-year-old woman with no fixed address facing charges of indecent exposure and disorderly conduct after public masturbation. Imagine that's how far you... Not only are you homeless, but you're homeless and whacking off.

Brian Redban: So this Austin woman, I just looked her up because I said she was in Texas. Look at her.

Joe Rogan: She's got so many photos though. She's been arrested so many times for masturbating.

Brian Redban: Whoa, that's her thing?

Joe Rogan: Yeah.

Brian Redban: So why did she do that?

Joe Rogan: Drugs, it says. So it's a drug?

Brian Redban: Yeah, she's that girl downtown, right? You know her. Jamie's tight. Everybody knows her. She's always naked and stuff. That and there's a black version of her.

Joe Rogan: Wait a minute, how many times has this lady been arrested? We could go downtown and find her right now.

Brian Redban: She's by the bridge usually.

Joe Rogan: That's my kind of homeless person. You know, a fixture in the community.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: It becomes a part of the tapestry, right? It makes things more interesting. That's my kind of homeless people. I like them like that.

Brian Redban: Six years ago.

Joe Rogan: Hey.

Brian Redban: Wow.

Joe Rogan: For six years she's been banging out on the streets.

Brian Redban: Dude.

Joe Rogan: That's kind of crazy. She's not wearing any pants at this time.

Brian Redban: She never is.

Joe Rogan: How many people have loved ones that died of some horrible disease and you're like, "Look at this lady. She's out there thriving."

Brian Redban: Yeah. She's thriving.

Joe Rogan: Frank just took the vaccine and dropped dead playing soccer.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: And this lady is out there thriving. I think we need to read all this in the Newsweek article.

Brian Redban: This is in the Newsweek article. Okay. She was named in the affidavit as the general manager of the J.W. Marion. Someone else was, not that. The witness was. Document noted he heard Nichols, in quotes, "making moaning noises as if she was having an orgasm."

Joe Rogan: How do you know the kind of noises she makes?

Brian Redban: Look above it. "Public view in a public place with her legs straight up in the air, spread open."

Joe Rogan: Straight up in the air. She doesn't even tuck.

Brian Redban: "At one point, suspect was seen rubbing herself back and forth on the plastic seat."

Joe Rogan: Okay. That's hot.

Brian Redban: No.

Joe Rogan: That's diseases, bro. That's how AIDS gets started. That's the real AIDS.

Brian Redban: Ew. Venereal diseases by themselves.

Joe Rogan: What's the matter, Jamie? That's what she used to look like?

Brian Redban: That's what she used to look like.

Joe Rogan: Holy shit.

Brian Redban: Yeah, times are hard.

Joe Rogan: Wow.

Brian Redban: Yeah, when you are whacking off in public every day.

Joe Rogan: I mean, that's like the face of a female MMA fighter. It gets scarred up.

Brian Redban: The picture I just had up that was an insanely different looking person.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, well, there's 12 different versions of her. She's been bearing up, boxing with fentanyl for decades. What do you expect? You get scarred up.

Brian Redban: Wow, yeah. She kind of looks like a girl I know in that first photo.

Joe Rogan: It's hard out there. Not for a girl. It's hard for her. See, she's clearly... 2019 there was an OnlyFans, really?

Brian Redban: She had an OnlyFans?

Joe Rogan: She could have been on a different path.

Brian Redban: Not really. Someone would have scammed her. She would have lost it all.

Joe Rogan: OnlyFans is like, what is it? If you look at the amount of money earned, OnlyFans is bigger than NBA teams. What is the amount of money generated by OnlyFans every year? Let's just guess.

Brian Redban: God.

Joe Rogan: Let's just guess. All right. I mean, it's way up there because I know there's some girls that make over a million a month.

Brian Redban: Yeah, but they're small.

Joe Rogan: Excuse me. That's a small number. Most of them are actually not making much money at all and they're giving up their scooter forever, which is not good.

Brian Redban: Right. They're going to regret it for that 50 bucks a month that they were getting.

Joe Rogan: Most of them are not getting much. It's probably some creep at the office who wants to see your butthole.

Brian Redban: I mean, I know girls that are just bartenders here in town that make thousands of dollars on it, and they just show their fucking brawls.

Joe Rogan: They're not even showing. That's why you only make thousands. You want to make millions, you got to fuck a horse. All right, 2019, the revenue of OnlyFans. What do you think? Guess.

Brian Redban: 1.5 billion.

Joe Rogan: This is pre-pandemic.

Brian Redban: Oh, pre-pandemic? Oh, that's probably lower now. I'll just say 1.5 billion.

Joe Rogan: I'll say 700 million.

Brian Redban: $238 million in 2019. It jumped up to $1.7 in 2020.

Joe Rogan: $1.7 billion?

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: That's the beginning of the pandemic. But last year, what do you think it was?

Brian Redban: Oh, God. 2024. $4.

Joe Rogan: $14.

Brian Redban: $14 billion?

Joe Rogan: $4.5 billion.

Brian Redban: Just under $8.

Joe Rogan: That's a lot. For 395 million users. And once again, 2019, it was what? $238 million. Wow. You want to hear the craziest number I heard? Something like 50% of American males have a subscription to OnlyFans.

Brian Redban: 50%?

Joe Rogan: 50.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: 50% of American males have a subscription to OnlyFans.

Brian Redban: 50%?

Joe Rogan: 50.

Brian Redban: Yeah. It's like a statistic thing. I think we looked it up. Like 10% of all females in America have an OnlyFans account too, or something like that.

Joe Rogan: 10%. One in 10. Between a certain age group. Not like old ladies. Imagine. I like to think it's more. 10% is wild.

Brian Redban: Yeah, it is pretty wild. One out of ten ladies that you meet has an OnlyFans.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. And when you think about the number of men. There's 377.5 million user accounts. That's more than the U.S. population, so obviously it's worldwide.

Brian Redban: Whoa.

Joe Rogan: But isn't it in the United States, like 150?

Brian Redban: The United States accounts for approximately 55% of the users. So it's 100... yeah, 102... yeah, basically half.

Joe Rogan: 190 million? Basically half of the population is on OnlyFans in America. That's crazy. How can that be true? Is that one of those like SiriusXM things where you get a free subscription?

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: You know?

Brian Redban: Yeah, there are free accounts.

Joe Rogan: What?

Brian Redban: You get a free account for what? Plenty of girls sign up and like, "I'm free right now."

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Oh, that. So you can just make an account. But that's still someone. It's like, it's not like when YouTube put their album on your iPhone.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: You know what I mean?

Brian Redban: Yeah, it's not like that. But I think it's because more people, everyday people do it. And so like teachers and like bartenders, you know what I mean? A teacher gets fired. "I'm a dirty teacher."

Joe Rogan: Yeah. That happens a lot. There's a lot of teachers on there. A lot of teachers are fucking kids.

Brian Redban: Yeah. Fucking hot teachers.

Joe Rogan: It's weird. It's weird because everybody smiles when they read those stories. When it's the hot lady and the 15-year-old football player, like, yeah. There's no victims here. That's one way where we are very prejudiced sexually.

Brian Redban: Totally. 100%.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. But the sheer number of people on OnlyFans in the United States is mind-blowing.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: You know what I mean? Like, think about it. Like, that's above everything else. Everything. Like, how many subscribers... Okay. How many people use Spotify in the United States? A lot. What's your guess? Just in the United States.

Brian Redban: A lot.

Joe Rogan: Let's guess. Just the United States. How many people in the United States? 333 million plus Mexicans. Okay, I'll say 150 million.

Brian Redban: 150 million. And that's going high. That's a high number, I think.

Joe Rogan: Okay. I don't know because I think worldwide it's crazy.

Brian Redban: Right. It might be around there. Most people I know have Spotify.

Joe Rogan: What does that mean, though? Is that a biased sampling? Because most people I know are my age or younger and listen to music a lot.

Brian Redban: Worldwide, 713,281,000 premium subscribers. In the U.S., it says 55,000,000 paid subscribers.

Joe Rogan: Paid.

Brian Redban: Paid.

Joe Rogan: I bet that's... But how many users in the United States? Because I bet a lot of people don't pay. Paid's kind of small, yeah.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: I mean, I didn't ask for paid and it just told me paid. More people are jerking off than listening to music. That's my point.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: That's crazy. And that's only one of many options to get things to jerk off to online. That's why we need to somehow find a way to put tits on music.

Brian Redban: Dude, we're going to have vivid experiences that aren't real. That's what's going to happen. That's going to be the future of porn. It's going to be just like AI, so there's no victims. There's not going to be any real women that are exploited or sex trafficked and forced into doing this. So it's going to be the hottest maid you've ever had in your life coming to your hotel room.

Joe Rogan: Robots.

Brian Redban: It won't even be robots, dude. It doesn't even have to be, but it could be. But it doesn't have to be. It can just be an artificial sensation that you're willing to sink into this matrix-like device, and it's going to provide you with some crazy porn scene. That's what it's going to be. And that's going to be a real problem because regular relationships are complicated. People have to be attracted to you. So you have to work hard to get people attracted to you, whether it's by making more money or by being hotter or whatever the fuck it is. You ultimately want someone to touch you. But it's the moment like that is just something you could order up like play an audiobook. That's a wrap for poor females.

Joe Rogan: It's a wrap. They're gonna have to get real jobs. They have to start mining. They're gonna have no slaves in the Congo. It's gonna be all chicks mining. Because the thing is, they're not going to want to do that. Women like their pornography in literature form. They like novels that are dirty and naughty. They don't want to see it. They want to think it. Men want to see it. And they want to just experience it. If you could put goggles on anytime you want, every time you go to take a shit, you just have wild sex. "What are you doing in there?" "I'm just reading the paper." You're in there fucking, aren't you, son of a bitch? You just hear it in the background like she's calling you from another room. Like it's just ruining your experience. "Stop fucking!" "I'm not! I'm reading a paper! I'm taking a shit! Reading a paper, goddammit! Leave me alone!" "You don't even talk to me! You're in there in the toilet with the girls in that head thing!" It's gonna be a problem, man, because there's already so many incels in this country. There's so many guys that just don't have any intimate relationships at all. I think there was this thing when they were interviewing young men and trying to find out how many of them have sex on a regular basis. And it's one of the lowest numbers ever recorded. Although, like, how many times are people asking people how much they fuck? And who are they asking? "Hey, how much you fucking? Do you like fucking?"

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: But I think it's a very unusual thing for people age 18 to 34 or whatever. Like young men are having less sex now than I think ever. I think a lot of that is they're not even trying because of the access to porn. And by the time it comes dinner time to take a lady out, you got no jizz left. You've been beating off all day.

Brian Redban: Right. And they're probably also not telling the truth or not. Like, "I'm not talking to you. Who are you working for?" You know what I mean? These kids are like, don't trust anybody and they're not talking to the press.

Joe Rogan: Right.

Brian Redban: Right.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, that's probably true too.

Brian Redban: Right. They know about privacy and stuff. "I'm not telling you."

Joe Rogan: Yeah, they're using VPNs.

Brian Redban: Yeah, VPNs. "Fuck off. Fuck off."

Joe Rogan: Yeah, if you have a VPN, that's the only way you can protect from people knowing exactly what you're doing at any given moment. And even then, they're tracking you with metadata. They're tracking where your cell phone's pinging to different towers. And then we're giving in to more and more of that. And then every time a new phone comes out, it's a little more invasive. Yeah, give up. We're done. We're done. Redban just checked out. It's like my dog when he doesn't want to bring the ball back anymore. He's like, "We're done. We're done."

Brian Redban: How's the new dog?

Joe Rogan: Oh, my god, I love him. Oh, my god, he's so cute. He's so adorable. He's the sweetest little thing. Everybody who picks him up, all he does is just bathe you with kisses. He barks when he kisses you. He gets so excited, he barks. His tail wags his whole little body. He's like one of them dogs where when he wags his tail, his whole body goes. "Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God." He's just jumping up, touching you. I've always wanted one of those dogs. Ever since I saw Insects in the City. What are they called? Is it King Charles Cavalier Spaniel? Charlotte had one of those. They're so sweet. And it made me love Marshall even more, if that was possible, because he's the sweetest dog to this little puppy. He goes to him with toys to try to get him to play with them. It's the most adorable thing of all time. Like he's just a... Golden retrievers are the fucking sweetest animals. We don't deserve them. We don't deserve them. They're so sweet. Marshall has never been anything but sweet a day in his life. He's never had a cunty moment on earth. He's been alive for almost nine years. Never had a cunty moment. And he's so sweet to this little puppy. He has this toy, it's like an octopus-looking thing. He comes over and brings his little octopus over to Charlie. Charlie grabs it, and they're playing around. It is so fucking cute, man. He puts his paw on him like this, like a gentle paw on him when they're playing around with stuff.

Brian Redban: You going to clone Marshall?

Joe Rogan: No.

Brian Redban: Why?

Joe Rogan: Because he's Marshall. He's an original. He's his own thing. I don't believe in that. I don't think you have to do that. That's crazy. Meet a new dog. Meet a new dog. I've had a bunch of amazing dogs, and they're all different, and that's part of the fun. Part of the fun is you don't know. Like, this guy's crazy. Like, what is he doing? He gets to the door. He goes, "Oh, oh, oh." Where did you learn that? Johnny Cash.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Oh, Johnny. He was the sweetest.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: Yeah. Every dog's got their own thing, man. That's part of the fun about being a dog owner. They all have their own weird little personalities. One of my dogs is getting so old, though, it's blind and deaf now. And it's the saddest thing. She's constantly running into walls.

Brian Redban: When Johnny was the last year of his life, I used to have to carry him outside.

Joe Rogan: That's what we have to do with this dog.

Brian Redban: Yeah, I have to. And Johnny was big, so I used to be the only one to carry him. She's like 140 pounds. I'd have to open the door and pick him up and take him into the yard. He would shit and piss. He could barely walk. He could literally barely bend down to shit. It was horrible.

Joe Rogan: Yeah, I'm going through the thing right now. I don't know if I should spend the money to do the cataracts so she can see again at least. How old is she?

Brian Redban: 14, 13. And they usually last about 15, so maybe one year left. The surgery is probably going to wreck her life.

Joe Rogan: I know. And it's going to be painful. Imagine giving one more year like she can see now because she's just so sad and depressed now. She might just die.

Brian Redban: I know.

Joe Rogan: She might die from the operation when she's so old.

Brian Redban: It sucks.

Joe Rogan: That's the thing about dogs. It's so hard.

Brian Redban: They don't...

Joe Rogan: Like Johnny was 13 when he died. Maybe 14. The last year was rough. It was rough. It was so sad. I don't want to deal with it.

Brian Redban: I know.

Joe Rogan: I know.

Brian Redban: It's hard, man.

Joe Rogan: It's hard.

Brian Redban: It's hard.

Joe Rogan: But that's what happens when you love something. You gotta have the missing it. There's gotta be grief. Because if not for that, you don't feel the love. The love and the loss, they're all connected in some weird way, unfortunately. And with dogs, they're the perfect example of that because they're just little love machines. They just give you love. And they're a direct reflection of how you treat them. If you treat them well and they're happy to see you and they're sweet to everybody, that's a good life. A love life. It just doesn't last long. Marshall's nine. I give him the best food you can get. He's very healthy. He's Farmer's Dog. Gets plenty of exercise. But I know it's only a matter of time. And it's sad.

Brian Redban: Yeah.

Joe Rogan: It's hard. Anyway, bring this chain into a screeching halt. What are you up to other than Kill Tony? You're always doing some weird shit.

Brian Redban: Yeah, I'm doing my fake band going on right now. Cap Red. It's on Spotify, YouTube. Cap Red Music. It's pretty much I've always made music like Olive Garden, Butthole, all those songs I used to make, but I used to sing it. So now I just write a bunch of music, and I use AI to sing it for me and make it a chick. So I'm like a... and I have a bunch of music videos and stuff on YouTube that I'm using AI to make, and I scan Janice's face in it so she plays like the...

Joe Rogan: Are you still doing the virtual reality rooms?

Brian Redban: I'm doing that, too. Yeah, I'm doing Virtual Redban. I do that like once or twice a week.

Joe Rogan: And how do people know when you're going to do that?

Brian Redban: I tweet it, Instagram, or that's on Redban on YouTube. But yeah, all my stuff is on YouTube, Redban and Cap Red Music.

Joe Rogan: Okay.

Brian Redban: All right.

Joe Rogan: All right. I love you.

Brian Redban: Love you, buddy.

Joe Rogan: Love you, too.

Brian Redban: Bye, everybody.