--:-- Good morning, girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast-fired things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday. I hope everybody's having, yeah, it's Tuesday, right? Wednesday. Yeah, a little gift. A gift of the Wednesday. Are you sure? Oh my God, yeah. A gift of the hump dairies. Much like Cynthia Erivo. I did not know that was happening. Oh my goodness. Happy Wednesday. You know, that's just like, kind of changes everything. Turn your frown upside down. Yeah. Madame Marble, it's giving Wicked Wednesday. Wicked Wednesday. it's very exciting to be here with you on this Wednesday. I was saying we are adjourned with co-journ. Consider court adjournered. Yeah. Your next podcast. Yeah. Like weigh in on legal issues. About the Baldoni case. Three people will listen to it. We're adjourned with co-journed. Well, thank you all for joining with me today. For journeying. For journeying. Journeying. So journeying is rural journeying. Hope everybody's having a fabulous Wednesday. We have a fabulous show planned for you guys. We are two fabulous girls. So it's a sort of baseline fabulousness. We've got great stories. We watched a ton of TV last night. We've got Tell Me Lies recap. We both watched the season premiere of Summer House. So we're just kind of like, I don't know, have our fingers on the pulse today. Some days we don't have our fingers on the pulse. Today we do. Yeah. I wonder what's preferred, you know? For the episodes where we're like on it or not on it. I think there's a nice mix and I think that's what makes the show so great. It's like you never know what to expect. is this gonna be a pulsey episode like we're on the pulse to a degree we're like sort of pulse adjacent but it's not like we're gonna be all pulse all the time no you know who i feel like is all pulse all the time like the vile files like they watch every tv show they watch it early like they have the episode up at six in the morning so you like we are like pulse adjacent yeah we dabble with pulse yeah we pulse here we pulse there dabble with low pulse god forbid Heaven forbid, low pulse. What the fuck? I have a runner's pulse. That what Dr Fox told me because my pulse is low You know me I don get worked up Can I feel your pulse Yeah do you know about pulse in what sense pulse i know how to find the pulse okay but like how would you know if it slow or fast i don't know and like your watch is kind of in the way give me your other hand i'll take my watch off why don't you want to give me your other hand crossing over okay it's not like a good look for now relax yeah i have to focus so hard hold on you're right like i think no it's feeling not I feel like it like throws up your balance. You're dead. That's what I'm saying. I can't find it. That's what I'm saying. You guys, I literally feel nothing. Hold on. Maybe I'm in the wrong spot. Let me see if I can feel it and I show you where it is. Do you want to know what's not on the pulse? is checking each other's pulses. This is like a silent podcast where we look for- Is checking each other's pulses on the show. But yeah, no. Why is fighting a pulse so hard? I literally can't find it. Oh, I found mine here. I'm alive. That's good. I'm alive. I don't know if I am. I have a low pulse, Dr. Fox said. You know me, I don't breathe a lot. I take one big sigh like every five minutes. Yeah, I feel like I did that when I was pregnant. It's like, oh yeah, breathe. no I I'm a big sire people will hear it like from the other room they're like you okay I'm like yeah I just took my breath for the day um kind of big news for me seeing a medical things like the pulse I got my biopsy results yesterday and they were um I'm not a hundred percent sure that she was like kind of confusing me on the phone I was looking for the words benign non-cancerous and I didn't hear either of those so I was like oh great I have cancer then she told me what it was and thank God, I wrote it down because I Googled it and they said what I Googled is a benign non-cancerous. Mild to moderate. Mild to moderate, atypical, nevus. Okay, sly. And thank you. It's benign non-cancerous. Like, I just wish they had said that. Like, I have a real problem with the delivery of the results. Those are the key words. However, they need you to help them rack up those bills. Yeah, they do still want me to come in, of course. Like, I just can't. Like, I will. I will. But all I was looking for was benign non-cancerous and I didn't get that. So I literally was sitting here after the show and I totally had forgotten because I'm just so carefree. She took the call in front of a bunch of people. She was like, film me. I just feel like if I made it like, so not a big deal, like I wasn gonna have cancer you know Like if I had to step out it like well that when you hear that you have cancer So It wouldn happen like in a room full of people Yeah With all my coworkers and my peers cause I am peer less I just feel like they weren going to say malignant And it turns out they didn't say malignant, but they didn't say benign either. So the results were questionable. Um, they said Aladin. They literally said Aladin. They may as well have said Aladin. Quite literally. That's how confusing it was. So that's what I did yesterday. Um, sort of like crazy times for me. Understood Were we together yesterday? Oh we got our nails done We did I already chipped mine Like seriously kill me Oh I'm happy to go back Yeah Switch my color We'll do that And then I watched a lot of TV For my job Yeah me as well Tell Me Lies Summer House Very exciting So many thoughts So many thoughts So many thoughts When does Real Housewives of Beverly Hills come out? Thursdays Which is not helpful No it's today It's Wednesdays Oh Wednesday great And I feel like something else Is coming out soon too On Bravo or just like In the universe? I'm Bravo, maybe. It evades me. Oh, the new Bravo adjacent show for the old rony women has a name. They're calling it The Golden Life. I guess a spin on like how they're in their golden years. They're the golden girls, like older women living their best life. And I feel like they're really close. It also does say it's a working title. So it's subject to change. It's called The Golden Girl. The Golden Life. The Golden Life, parentheses, working title. So I think they're really close to the title. I hope they continue to work it because I like the concept of like they're in the Golden State and living their golden years. And I'm sure like Golden Girls is like trademarked. They're almost there. The Golden Life isn't working for me. The Golden State is California, but it's definitely the Sunshine State. My bad, my bad. Which is golden. I do like the word golden. I think there's a lot there. To work with. When I first heard Golden Life, I was like, huh? And then I was like, oh yeah, golden years, you know, golden glow. I think there's a lot of potential. They put out a video of like all the housewives announcing the... I'm obsessed with these ladies. And it was so turned in the best way possible. It was so golden girls. It was so rony OG. It was giving like made on like Instagram layout. It was hysterical. And if that's a taste of what we can get, it's mighty tasty. I just know. I just know Doreen is not well. Like it's killing her. I haven't thought about her one time. She's not an OG. No, of course not. But I loop her in with that group of like elderly women who drink a lot, who ruined the franchise. With their drinking. Right. I do wonder if this puts them in a bad spot with Bravo Like while the women have not been on Bravo in many years they still on Watched Reppin Live They go to BravoCon They part of the Bravo family They get like weird spinoff opportunities E is a sister of Bravo I know It a sisterhood And Bravo is all about the peacock. This is just the first time where like Bravo people have collectively jumped ship-ish. But it's ish. And I'm sure Bravo had first right of refusal and they didn't want the show and they went to E. And again, it's all under the NBC Universal umbrella. And NBC is going to be like, you better get if this show is a success they're gonna say bring them to bravo or peacock yeah it's a feather in everyone's cap yeah i think it's all good okay um so we kind of like a lot to do just because we are so pulsey today yes so there's nothing else i just i can't remember a thing that i did yesterday oh you know my tiktok has taken me to the epstein files and i would like to be away from it it's very upsetting um and also like it's kind of confusing because it's like the files but it's also like anonymous tips that people have submitted. So it's like not all a hundred percent, but I've just like ended up like reading some really upsetting things about like these like women who were forced to have babies. Like I was, I saw something about babies. It was very, very upsetting. And it just kind of ruined my morning. I was like scrolling TikTok while I was doing my hair. And then like these people like explaining to me what they found. And I just like, it was very upsetting. Yeah. And I was in it for like the celebrity and like the only person who so far has named I heard. And there are three million documents. Like it will be. There are thousands of names. But like Dr. Peter Attia, who I didn't even know, but apparently he's like a big podcaster. Is he the bald one? Yes. You know him? Oh, yeah. He's always giving me tips. Oh, my God. Okay. And what salt to use. So he was a big customer of Jeffrey Epstein. Like his emails are so bad. Oh, my God. And there's this thing in his book where he talks about this traumatic life event where his like young child ended up in the ICU. And he's telling the story. It all happened on July 11th. And he's telling the story in his book about like the day he wasn't home. He was in New York and his son was in the ICU in San Diego. And then like the emails from the Epstein files, like prove that he was like hanging up with Jeffrey Epstein on July 11. Like he said in his book that he didn't go home because of work when his son was in the ICU. And it turns out he didn't go home because he was like hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein. Wow. Yeah. No, it's really crazy. So, so far he's like the first like big like name who we'd never heard of. We were like, all these celebrities are going to be in the files. Like I want to hear more celebrities. but first it's Dr. Peter Attia, which is like so random. I don't even know him. I actually don't know him. I actually don't know him. He's not the salt guy. The salt guy. I had to find his name. He went on Matt and Abby one time. So his name not has nothing to do with this conversation, but his Dr. Amen, you know him. He's another bald doctor who podcasts longevity doctor. Is that like, that's what Dr. Peter Atiyah is. I'm like learning so much about this person. I never knew, but apparently like he's like a Huberman type. People are obsessed with him. It's like devastating for his community. You know, this man. No, I don't know that man. He's everywhere. I don't know that man. I'm sorry. Sorry to this man. You don't know him? If you saw him like talking into a microphone. He looks like Blair's stepfather from. He does, Cyrus. Cyrus from. If you saw him talking to a microphone. Maybe you would ring a bell. Everyone is him. I must have missed that episode of Man Abbey. We should have him on. You never know. I don't want to have people on. You never know. They might end up in the Epstein files. That's so true. Oh, and there was also an Epstein file where they're talking about Maddie Ziegler. Just like, no, not guilty. Maddie Ziegler's not a part of it. they were just like did you see that music video like yucky like really and then they also talk about like these people are so dumb by the way like they literally like hey want to be a pedophile like they don't care um but they do attempt in some parts to speak in a foreign language um and they use food being like hey i'd like a pizza yeah they said pizza hot dog burger and this guy i think it was dr peter attia who was like i'd like a hot dog with no bun like yucky yucky yucky um i'm very new to and also like it's hard do i think to discern from the files like what is just like was a submitted tip from the public and what is like a verified claim so you do have to be careful so like i'm just looking at actual emails like on tiktok by the way i'm not like reading the files um and this one particular girl who like ended up in a treatment center and she was like forced to have babies and she was like galane's girl like oh my god fucking galane like i forgot about the epstein saga you know it was like so many years ago but it's really upsetting like it's not i'm not having fun that's really upsetting i feel like i was like oh yeah let's get them and now it's like i'm upset yeah like i was just in it for the celebrity and like all i got was peter attia so far like so far i don't even know him yeah there's there'll be more but it's also confusing there are so many names of people like so and so is named and they keep saying like it doesn't mean inclusion does not indicate involvement like they keep saying that similar how like anybody who's ever had a picture cal radswell like her pictures with Ghislaine. Like, that doesn't mean she was going to the island. So like I think you have to be It not fair Just because someone named it doesn mean No Like necessarily Like Maddie Ziegler is not involved Right But like yucky Yuck. Well, thanks. Sorry, my morning was ruined, so I just felt like I had to ruin everyone else's. Okay. That's really mature. Yeah. That's a mature way to feel. I'm a very mature woman, so that makes sense. Shall we get into the stories? Yes. Where we do have our pulse on the pulse, though it's a low pulse, a runner's pulse. The pulse on me is questionable. I couldn't find it, but my pulse on these stories is not questionable because I know everything. Without further ado, here are the Fast Five stories that you need to know. And the Fast Five stories that you need to know are brought to you by the Container Store. If your home or your schedule feels a little chaotic lately, go to the Container Store. It will make you feel better. There is help out there. 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And TMZ reports it has received an alleged ransom note demanding payment for the release of Nancy Guthrie. Yes, I believe also another local news station. So now two news outlets. It's giving amateur, by the way. Like, I don't know why it's giving like. This is like your first ransom, you're sending it to TMZ, like, I don't know, I don't get the connection. Well, now I feel like and this was, I think, a theory at first, like, was this random or is it because her daughter is very famous? And so I feel like sending it to TMZ is sort of a confirmation that this person targeted Savannah Guthrie's mother, not just like an old woman. You know, it's giving like, I know you have a wealthy daughter. Let me see what I can squeeze out of you. I'm really worried about her medication. Yeah. Like it seems like when someone is being held for ransom, like they're not trying to hurt the person per se. It's not like, you know, they want to kill them. They just want money. So they're holding them hostage, if you will. But the whole medication throws like a kind of complicated spin on it. And I could see this person like panicking, like dropping them off at a hospital, you know? Yeah. Like they didn't set out to kill this woman, but she's an elderly woman who needs her medication. Perhaps. They say she needs it every 24 hours. And I doubt they said on their way out, do you have any medication you might need? She also disconnected from her pacemaker. Oh, no. Why would the pacemaker? Do you need to be near like a. I don't know how it works, but like it stopped tracking her at a certain time. So. Oh, shit. Yeah. Maybe it just like didn't connect to like the Apple Watch or like if she didn't have it on her. There's like a monitor that comes with it. But maybe. But she's still wearing it. I didn't hear about the pacemaker. That's so scary. That's what I had heard. What a just horrifying story. Like continues to get worse. Yeah. And as which we know with all abductions, the more time that passes without any sort of lead. But I feel hopeful that they have leads that they're not sharing. I don't know why I feel that way, but I feel like they're playing very close to the. Right. Because the person's watching the news. And I feel like sometimes when they have no leads, like they're like, anyone, please send us anything you have. Remember, like with the the Brown University shooter and everyone sending their like ring cameras. Yeah, right. They didn't really have anything. You get an influx of information, which also can be like distracting. Yeah, I think they want information, but I feel like they have some stuff. God, I hope so. That's literally just a feeling. Just a vibe. Just, yeah, I don't know. It's really sad. Oh my God, it's so terrible. I think they want information, but I feel like they have some stuff. I think they want information, but I feel like they have some stuff. I hope so. That's literally just a feeling. There's a vibe. Just. Yeah. I don't know. It's really sad. Oh, my God. It's so terrible. It's so terrible. Thinking of her and her siblings were seen like leaving the area. And it's just a nightmare. It's a nightmare. A living nightmare. We'll keep you posted. And hopefully we have better news. More updates. There really haven't been. Yeah. But I don't know. The TMZ thing is making me like suspicious. obviously suspicious situation but you know what i mean you know what i mean yeah our next story is a story for claudia um that wait you you've seen it i you knew it was happening but for me it's for you because travis kelsey chokes at taylor swift is gonna kill him over this fumble so travi was recording his podcast new heights with his brother jace face and um travi and jace's you know them like that i didn't realize you knew them like that yeah you know i like nicknames yeah i like jace a little i like jace phase um and as they're recording he's like tipping the seat backwards and it made a loud crack yeah he broke the chair he broke the chair in taylor's house he said taylor's gonna kill me jason was like oh shit are you all right and javi was like we're good i told you guys like her aesthetic and his physical build like it's a mismatch and i'm glad that she's decided to redesign, we know, her Rhode Island mansion. I hope some permits have been taken out on all of her homes. Like, this is not... They need to, like, restructure the foundation. This is not an ordinary man. And also, I get the vibe, like, just based on his reaction, that, like, this is not the first time it's happened. Because he's like, oh, Taylor's going to kill me. Like, oh, Travis, breaking chairs again. It's a serious issue. And I tried to warn them about it, like, a year ago. Well, I feel like she definitely has all this, like, antique doll furniture, right? And it's like, you don't need to swap it all out at first. Like, let's break it. I don't know. Travis doesn't want to feel like a stranger in his own home. He should be able to sit in any chair. Yes. But like, you're going to get rid of them sort of prematurely. Let's live in them. And when they break, we'll get new. I just don't know why we have to wait for something bad to happen. Like, Travis could get hurt, first of all. He's a professional athlete. You know how they say, like, professional athletes should not be doing, like, snowboarding or skateboarding in the offseason because it could create an injury that affects him during the season. And it's kind of if he's still going to continue to play, like living in her like sort of antique home is a career hazard for him And I do think that they need to go to Raymoor and Flanagan Also he doesn seem bashful in any way But I have to imagine that breaking a chair is the most humiliating experience an individual can have. It's, now she's getting into my clams casino, the scene in Shallow Howe where he goes to complain and he can't understand why Gwyneth Paltrow has broken this steel chair. Yeah, I'm trying to think of a chair. It is as a person who's always struggled with my weight. I have to tell you, and I think every person who's ever felt uncomfortable in their body will tell you, it is something we're constantly thinking of. However, for Travis, I don't think he's uncomfortable in his body. I don't think any part of him would be embarrassed by breaking a chair. It's probably like a flex. A point of pride. Yeah, I'm too big for the chair. Yeah, me and my big shoulder. Yeah, a thousand percent. But a broken chair never find me. No, no, I need to buy a spell from a witch on Etsy. Like keep broken furniture away from me. I don't know if there is a more horrifying thing that could happen to you in public. I'm trying to think. I feel like it's happened to Ben. And it's obviously different for boys and girls. For sure. And Ben is not like easily embarrassed. No, but like in my line of work, I find that I'm always like being put in director's chairs, which just don't give me a lot of confidence because they're made with like a thin piece of fabric and like two wood parcels. If you broke that, you're human. Yes, of course. But anytime I go to an event and it's like a speaking gig or whatever and they have you on a director's chair, I think I almost always am like, do we have other chairs? No, and it's not a flattering chair. I just don't like it. You can't really cross your legs so great because you don't have the support. Right, of the floor. For a shorties. Yeah. So just Travis out here living every girl's nightmare. And I'm sorry that that happened to you. Yeah, but I hope that you guys get like new Pargy furniture, maybe a little restoration hardware. And maybe you and Taylor can use this as an opportunity to watch Shallow Hell because I think you guys would like it. And redecorate. Of course. In a way that speaks to both of your sensibilities and size. Yeah. There is a happy medium. Size and sensibility. They need to have like a big and tall furniture store. Yeah. Well, I'm sure there's beautiful things. Of course. Restoration hardware. Restoration hardware is the solution that they're looking for. Everything from restoration hardware. The cloud couch, Travi would love it. I don't know. what I've heard about the cloud couch and when I go to people's houses, I'm like, oh, you paid $20,000 for this couch. It gets so lumpy and like it meant to be relaxed but it very quickly becomes It doesn present nicely Like when you it hard to set the room with a cloud couch because it always looks unmade Right So if you also have an enormous man lounging on the couch there quite a bit and his friends and his big friends... And just leaving, you know... Tushy imprints. Yeah. For lack of a better term. Yeah. You're going to be fluffing those pillows, those cushions all day long. Nobody wants that job. Yeah. The cloud couch is a mirage. And I think wealthy people tried to convince us that it was cool. And I'm glad that I never fell victim to the cloud couch. I feel like there's a time and place for it. Okay. In a media room. Oh, like in a theater room. Yeah. In a theater room that doesn't get used a lot. Yeah. But I also feel like. Because if I walk into your house and you have a cloud couch, I can tell based on the state of your couch, how much time you spend laying on the couch. And then it's like, not only do I have a messy couch, I also like know people like people know I lay around a lot. Well, I feel like when you're like in your twenties and like you have an apartment, like If you had a cloud couch, that was such a slay. It was. And I feel like you don't spend that much time like on your couch. And it's just like you're one or two people. It's like you're pregame. You don't have a whole family. Like, I feel like that's nice. Like if you're getting a cloud couch in your like young adult apartment, slay all day. But if you're a young adult with a cloud couch, like your parents obviously bought it for you. And then I just think you're like a spoiled brat. Oh, well, maybe a dupe or something. Yeah, there was the Ikea dupe. And Bob's Discount Furniture had a very good dupe. I remember people talking about. And then we also stayed in the house in the Hamptons that had a cloud couch and we had an amazing experience. Did we podcast from it? Not the couch. It was in the Olympics. Yes. You remember? Yes, yes, yes. And it was fantastic. Yes. And we laid on it quite a bit. So if I'm a homeowner who's renting out my home, I'm not getting a cloud couch because it's going to look worse for the wear if we're showing up. But we enjoyed it. We did. Deep. And I would like a cloud couch for free. Oh, okay. For free. Yeah. I would also like a jet. For free. For free. If we're just saying things. You know. Are you ready for our next story? I am. Nicola Peltz's dad, Nelson. I saw. I have so many thoughts. Is breaking his silence on the Beckham family feud. He's not really breaking his silence, I just want to say. No, he spoke on it. I know, but breaking your silence implies that you're speaking on something and it's your choice. I felt like it was actually hella inappropriate. And I think the Wall Street Journal interviewer knew it as well because she was skating around the issue and she looked nervous. because she was asking an inappropriate question on the business summit. So he participated in the Q&A session with Wall Street Journal Invest Live in West Palm Beach And he was asked about Nicola to which he quipped Well he wasn even asked Like she was having such a hard time getting the question out that he eventually like saved her and was like, yes, my daughter. He said, has my family been in the press lately? I haven't noticed at all. The interviewer was like, you know, you're used to negotiating high stakes situations. Like she was circling the train so bad. Like he actually threw her a life rat. He was like, yes. Oh, has my family like made a joke? because he she seriously was struggling so bad because it was I'm sorry so inappropriate and I'm here for the tea but it's inappropriate a business summit but do you feel like she felt like she had to ask about it because it's the biggest story in the world that he's very adjacent to yeah he is adjacent to it but he's really not a he is a major player but not really in terms of like the front-facing people we're talking about the Beckhams we're talking about Nicola and Brooklyn like we're talking about her family as sort of like in this like abstract kind of way um she could have very easily gotten away with not doing it just because I think it's inappropriate. It would have been more professional to not do it. Anyone who was like mad at her for not asking the obvious question, like could have just been like, this is a Wall Street Journal business summit. Yeah. He's like a billionaire, very successful businessman. Like it's offensive to really stray into the gutters like this. Now, having said that, I'm learning a lot about Nelson. Is that his name? Nelson, yeah. You don't meet a lot of Nelsons. It's a nice show. Of course, Mandela. Of course. He's like kind of the only one. And I feel like he did the name like so big. No one, like I don't know anyone who's naming their kids Nelson. No, you don't see a lot of kids named Nelson. But it's a strong name. No, it is. I feel like it's a successful name, you know? So I didn't know much about him in like a personality sense. And I do feel like maybe she felt like she could ask the question because he is, seems like this very affable, nice guy. Yeah. And he was like making a joke out of it. And he basically said like, you know, I know my daughter. She's amazing. and we love our son-in-law and we just want them to have like a very happy life. And I always tell them like, do everything you can to stay out of the press. Yeah, that's what he said. He said, my vice is to stay the hell out of the press. Well, they didn't take that one. He said, my daughter and the Beckhams are a whole other story and that's not for coverage here today. But I'll tell you, my daughter is great. My son-in-law Brooklyn is great. And I look forward to them having a long, happy marriage together. I don't know if he could have answered the question more perfectly. Like now I'm left with such a wonderful, like this is quite a man, you know? My impression is overwhelmingly positive. And I'm definitely like thinking, you know, a man, you know? like this is quite a man, you know? My impression is overwhelmingly positive. And I'm definitely like thinking, you know, a man like that has to be raised like an amazing daughter. You know what I mean? Like, although I could see also a guy like that, like making a soil brat, like loving his daughter so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But whatever. I feel like the Pelts is huge check in their column, just based on this answer. I think he might've also been caught off guard. So like this was just his, you know, on the whim response. And it was amazing. I have to imagine he thought about the fact that he's doing press like that. Someone would ask him about it. So I feel like. This isn't press. This would have gotten literally no coverage. It was a business event. Yeah. I feel like that's what we said, though. It seems like both families are really great families. Like stable and grounded. Yeah. They both have parents who are married, which is insane. Loving. Yeah. Wealthy. So, I mean, it seems like a Nicola and Brooklyn self sort of thing. It kind of does. Like they both, and this is again, just based on vibes, like they both seem genuinely insufferable. And that's sort of like not their parents' fault. No. I think the Peltz parents and the Beckham parents just kind of need to hang out. Yeah. And talk shit. They probably have more in common than they think. I think so. I, cause it's never, it's not been said that it's like they don't like them. Parents versus parents. That it's like Nicola and Victoria and Brooklyn. Brooklyn and his parents. Yeah. oh are you ready for our fourth story that's going to lead into our first tv recap yes because um actually no no like let's just do tv so i'm not ready yeah i think like this next section should be calling mike tv and it's brought mike it's from willie wonka i don't know that boy he was obsessed with the television literally me like he definitely in this day and age like would have a podcast like a tv recap podcast for sure he'd say yeah he grew up to be Nick Vile. I was just thinking that. But then I'm like, we mentioned Nick Vile twice on this podcast today. Is that like so weird? No, especially because I'm like involved. Yeah. Should we talk about it? Sure. Okay. Jackie, this clip and I know Jackie hadn't seen it because this clip came across. I didn't know what was happening. That like there's kind of like beef. I don't know if there's beef. I have to do a little bit more context. I refuse to admit that there's beef because I don't know. I don't know anything about the situation. You just sent me a clip of Natalie talking about when she was on the toast Right And she was kind of like alluding to having like an uncomfortable conversation with you And she was like seemingly upset about how you addressed her age gap um and then I found the clips thank shout out to the girl who posted it um and not only did you not ask her like she offered it up so she recounted also I always like I feel like the first thing people think about them is age gap I never remember it so I don't know if I learned about the age gap while she was sitting here or I had only recently learned about it but like I definitely didn't have a harsh reaction to it because I don't in my heart of hearts I don't feel that way like I feel like she they're they're beyond that they're beyond yeah like I don't see them as an age guy couple so yeah I don't so she went on her podcast after coming on the toast and like recounted the conversation and she did recount it incorrectly because then I watched a clip and that's not what happened oh I guess that's why she said I was asking her to do fast math because like she said she met Nick when she was whatever age and I was like oh so how old was Nick so she had to do the math on the spot maybe the math didn't math and know and like i think she was upset she had to do the math like that was the vibe i guess i could have done the math because i think she said it was simple math it's 21 plus 18 which how dumb are you is that 39 okay i think she was calling you dumb i you know what i'm not taking the bait like i had such a great experience with her you did i really we've had such a good relationship with nick for so many years i'm unless she's like text me to my face i don't like you like i have no misunderstanding yeah I really and I'm sorry if she came away feeling that way because in because like I said that's not how I feel and it's also not how it was I think they had like a beautiful relationship and a beautiful family I meant to be I watch a clip so that's also just not how it went down so and I think they're meant to be I wouldn't question meant to be okay so I'm not taking the bait I kind of am and who's who's pitting us against each other do you feel like it's the internet well no I just saw this or the clip of her I saw the clip of her like saying she doesn't like me in that no like rewriting history a little like about her and you know you can't help how you feel when you walk away from a conversation so like she's totally valid in that but then to go on her podcast like recount it like we saw the clip that's not what happened yeah so maybe i just feel fiercely defensive of my maybe you do maybe you do but i'm just not internet enough for this i know i am great so yeah funny that we spoke about them a number of times today yeah they're definitely on the mind because i sent you the clip yeah now i also don't know if Claudia, when you sent me that clip, I was like, what am I watching? Someone is talking about me. I could not compute. And it was like a very short clip, like no context. I like what Yeah right What Yeah So I still don understand I don really either And i also not one to pile on i feel like they getting like hate right now and like i never one to be like yeah i hate you too so like seriously sending love sending love i had a great experience so if she and like nick like we've come too far to go home now we can file no nothing can come between us no we are thick as thieves okay mike tv is brought to you by oh that's how we got here that's such a niche reference like i don't know and it's rare that you know like a cultural reference and like it sticks with you that i don't know whenever i say tv i like always think of mike tv oh was that his name yeah sounds a little familiar yeah he was like the fourth one he got like sucked no i know him he looked like the brother from lizzie mcguire he had like spiky hair he wanted to be like in the tv no and he did end up in the tv yeah and he couldn't get out. A dream. 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And they also shared a teaser for the upcoming spinoff in the city. So we've talked a lot about this show. We've heard a lot. Everyone has sort of speculated. It's like the valley of the north, of the northeast. and yes they posted a teaser video in the city it follows kyle amanda and lindsey into fall you know they transitioned kyle from summer sierra it's just the three of them at this moment i don't think that's the whole cast but like they're sprinkling breadcrumbs i don't know if sierra is a part of it because this show really is meant to be like the valley yes of the east coast where we see people go on to the next phase of life and they can mature out of summer house it was built for Lindsay Hubbard in this era of her life, whereas other cast members can stay on Summer House. This isn't like Summer House continued. It's, you know. You could do both. It's the Beverly Hills to Vanderpump Rules pipeline. We're sending you on your way. I have actually high hopes for the show because I feel like even watching last night's premiere, so much has changed, but like the house hasn't. And I actually think for someone like Amanda, for someone like Lindsay, like in the city is perfect because sometimes like them going out to the Hamptons every weekend and staying in the share house like makes no sense. Yeah. And I feel like last night, you know, we have all these new cast members and I feel like some of the OGs like Ciara and Amanda like are making such a concerted effort because they're not acting like how they normally act on the first day of summer where they're just very set in their ways and they kind of ignore the new girls and leave them to like hang out with Lindsay. They're being so friendly, picking them up and like, you know, it's kind of weird. It's like, why are you acting so different? And it's like because they have been forced to shift a little bit and it feels a little forced. and I think the city show might be a better fit for just who they like everyone likes them how they are yeah and it doesn't necessarily always work in the Hamptons so just be yourself in the city like I do think that there's real potential with that show yeah and I feel like even Amanda and Sarah not going out the first night it sort of signals like the difference divide in the house of like people who are past doing all of this and people who are still doing all of it but did they go out or did they take no cameras like it was so confusing cameras usually we see them getting in in the car. I guess. I think they went out. And then it was 2 a.m. Like it was confusing I think that they went out because they said they were going out And sometimes they do like phone videos Yeah I might have like looked away for a second So I don know But I thought that they went out They need to like fix that They need to be going out with cameras like the Jersey Shore. Like, yeah, it's that's where everything happens. Yeah. But I think that now people, you know, if they're the bedbugs bedbugging, it's like, OK, well, there's a path for the bedbugs. Right. And this could be their last summer in the house. And that's fine. but they are also trying to like be in the mix with the new girls and the new cast members also the whole storyline of last night and what will be the season probably is like kyle and amanda right and is anyone else not to be like a conspiracy theorist i feel like it's very clear that they are not together like in this right so on what happens live she said that they separated in october like so right after the summer before bravo con um and i just feel like at this point they are already like decidedly not together. And I think they're both really committed to the show. I think if they were decidedly not together, they would have been nicer to each other. I think that they are so, like if they were putting on an act, like I think the way that they're- So uncomfortable. Acting in front of people, in front of cameras, the way they're talking to each other is not a good look. Even though I think with hindsight, if you go watch like the last couple of seasons, the way they talk to each other, the way they interact, she's up at four in the morning, he's not home yet. like it's funny how now watching it knowing they're separated it all looks like writing on the wall whereas I was thinking about it like previous seasons no but this is like a new level they they have not fighting at the table one kind word to each other fighting at the table the fighting at the table every conversation that each of them is involved in I really do think this is like where the marriage is ending I don't they don't seem like they want to work on it but I do think it is real because I think if they were pretending they would have a little bit more manners towards each other. The DJing thing is so crazy. Yeah. And I think people online speculated that that was like a huge reason for the breakup. And I was thinking like, yeah, it's crazy. But like, this is who he is. This is who he's always been. People were putting so much stock in him going on tour as a DJ and how like that was her final straw. And I was like, I don't know. I think it's like a little too simple. But I think that the DJing is the nail in the coffin. Well, I don't know necessarily if the DJ ended the marriage. I think the marriage was ending. And so he went to DJ because he didn't want to be home all the time. And so that was like a symptom, right? Not the cause. And what we talked about that symptom caused other symptoms. We talked about how like the prenup them not having a prenup lover boy And I think you had said like you know I could see her just having foregone her half of it just to get out like it and how it really not as valuable as it once was and on Watch Happens Live last night she kind of confirmed that because she was you know she said she said she didn't have a prenup and she said everyone no matter what marriage you're in like you need a prenup like just do it um she said well they'll be okay but because they're they really get along very well um but Andy was like but you're entitled to that you know piece of lover boy and she was like well yeah maybe but like it's his thing he has lived and died like he literally gave up our marriage for it so I'm not taking it and I think it's very easy to say that because I do think the brand is presently worth a lot less than maybe it was at its peak and I think lover boy just caused her so much strife and drama it's like take it be gone with it I don't want to be a part of it then we have to work together again like just it's a cleaner break she should get like five percent just for having been there so based on my limited knowledge and just like people telling me things behind the scenes. I believe that Loverboy, and I think this is a storyline on In the City, I think Kyle is in major financial distress. Like I think he took out a lot of personal loans that he cannot. So I don't think there's just 5% to throw around. I think it's like, and that's why I think it was easy for her to walk away being like, this is a mess. Yes, maybe at one point, like five years ago, they were on track to like be a company that was going to sell to like Anheuser-Busch for $100 million. I don't think that's the case. I don't think. But he never took investors, right? So the whole point is he has 100%. So he has 5%. I do believe at one point he did take on investment because I was just reading this article about how like Bravo's the new incubator. And there was, there is seed money in the very beginning. Okay. Yeah. Also, I think the DJing thing is an extension of lover boy marketing. Of course. She said that, you know, some people they DJ and then they go straight home to their families. He stays back. He talks to the owners. I think he's selling Loverboy into all of these places. I think that like it has been an engine for like Loverboy getting into bars and restaurants and clubs. Yes. And it's not just like I love music. And I think he enjoys DJing, but it's also more for Loverboy. No, for sure. But I think what she's saying is like, yes, he can go DJ and have it be for Loverboy and sell into these places. is he doesn't need to be out all night. There are people who have successful jobs in nightlife and happy home lives. But every person I know who works in nightlife is sober, has multiple children, a very happy marriage. In order to be successful in nightlife you can be every night out till the break of dawn So that sort of the issue i don even think her issue is so much as him doing these events like he always done events for lover boy then the problem is also like he doesn't want to go home and she doesn't like right so say he goes home say he came home every weekend to fight yeah you know what i mean like he's there's a reason he's not going home they're not like happy together and at this point they're not they've given up they're not working towards being better but we've seen them every year you know working towards it we're gonna try this summer and then after the summer they say they're better and they've been working on things and at this point they both thrown in the towel she will flirt with anyone who walks and everybody wants to flirt with her and this guy ben what a cutie he runs with the chef ben from um yeah uh blow deck yeah yeah yeah um i i ship and it's like and they talked about that and watch up inside people being like you have a twinkle in your eye when you talk to him like what happened at that wedding she was like no nothing Yeah, the way she described the wedding was fine. But then she like gave a look to Sierra that made me feel like they're dating right now. That's just what it made me feel like. Oh, wow. Even though she said on Watch Dogs Live again, like she would literally never date someone on Bravo, specifically on her show either. And he is on Bravo now. Oh, OK. So her bringing him is like her saying no, you know? Oh, OK. Well, she also said that she was asked like who they think is going to date again first. And she said, I think me. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I feel date like or have sex, you know, I think like being a relationship. Well, her because relationships are not for him, clearly. So it's it's really sad to watch. It's uncomfortable. And I feel like it's going to be the entire season. And then it's going to be all of in the city because in the city wrapped before BravoCon. She said that they separated right before BravoCon. So I think that's how in the city ends is with them deciding to separate. So that means that this is like four months. This is so old. it is kind of it is kind of in the city which hasn't even premiered yet is from october i don't know oh i thought you meant like four months of like it's tea and whatever but like a certain point like we got it like you want to know we're like watching things in real time with social media like i just feel like hulu and all these they really raise the bar for turnaround times and like this just feels so ancient yeah i'm sure there'll be other storylines and in the city and other cast members yeah lindsey we need lindsey oh my god last night's episode was really boring i'm sorry lindsey is such a personality hire yeah she's not like dating who gives a fuck like She's so funny and I do feel like she, it's very authentic the way that she interacts with the new people and something about last night, seeing these cast members who have quite literally gives a fuck like she's so funny and I do feel like she it's very authentic the way that she gives a fuck like she's so funny and I do feel like she it's very authentic the way that she like interacts with the new people and something about last night like seeing these cast members who have like quite literally never made an effort with the new people like forcing it I was just like who are you trying to fool yeah it's crazy that this is the job a million girls would kill for and I feel like the two girls that they got the blonde girl Bailey I can't believe they have another girl named Bailey after last season's Bailey she definitely has more of a personality and like she might do well the other girl was so quiet well just it's episode one I know but you have to come into I'm sorry you have to come into these shows with Lexi I think people who come in too strong like they want it too bad they're trying too hard it doesn't go well I like a slow burn I'm not I'm not judging either of them yet but what I do like about them is that they have and like they have a good positive energy they want to have fun they want to meet people I think they're like the right agent in the right place and they've got the right mindset and so I'm I think it's trending positively. They're acting like Lexi never existed. Like it was so crazy. Do you think she was fired or that she left? I think that she was not asked back. And it actually made me really sad to think about because it's like she came onto the show and was just like swooped. And like she was into Jesse, but like he didn't give her a choice because he was going to be dating. Like he loved her. The girls were just really awful to her. And he like totally capitalized her time and her storyline and everything. and then I don't know why she wouldn't be asked back like she's exactly what they were looking for like young girl she was going out she was doing it all the outfits like she has the background and he chewed her up and spat her out it's kind of terrible and the network took his side it actually makes me really sad yeah and I just feel like it can't be overstated how like in addition to him chewing her up and spitting her out like how the girls were not there for her one bit yeah and it was like kind of sad and painful to watch and it's like she liked him back but it's as if She didn't have a choice. He was so into her. Like he was going to be. She had no other storyline to follow. No, it's actually really sad. It is really sad. When they was like sitting in bed with Ciara talking about like Wes. Like they didn't even bring up Lexi. Like your girlfriend from last summer who was in the house. Yeah. Where's our Wes meter now? Hours or? Hour. I mean, like season one was like 10, 10 to cross the board. Season two after the reunion. Right. By zero. I'm kind of indifferent. Then we got to like two, three last season. Yeah. I feel like the harsher Sierra was with him, like the more I kind of felt bad for him Cause like his crime was breaking up with her which like he is allowed to do Um so I feel like now that she kind of cooled off like i actually just don care anymore do you know yeah and now it like their show like west and jess it is it actually crazy like they are doing press and i guess like a few people got plucked to go on fallon and it's lindsey hubbard as she should she built the show brick by brick and west like it's crazy isn't that crazy yeah they did this clip they were playing a game called imposter with jimmy west and lindsey like let me until I was cracking up like premium social media content. I watched it while I was getting ready. This morning, like chuckling. It was basically like two of them are a traitor. One of them is a traitor and the two, like they don't know who the traitor is. So they do word association with a topic. And like the topic is beach. So like Jimmy goes, sand. And so you have to like pretend like you know what the topic is. I was cracking up. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, I know. It was like really funny. We should play. Yeah. Yeah. Wes points to have a nice summer Yeah I don't care He's also important to the life Of the show like he's very Affable he's the future the new guy Is his friend he's funny Like he's was very well liked with the Exception of what happened after season two like He Had one of the best first season What's the word like he He paid the he did his time Yeah he's out of jail yeah he's yeah And then he say that or that's like they said he's on probation he was like it's better than jail yeah no but he isn't like yeah in hindsight in hindsight like her big issue with him was that they broke up which is devastating um and that he did a new york times article about their breakup which is just sort of like part of his job i think he did a new york times article about his his his himself and on the show and yeah it wasn't about the breakup sorry yeah and and it was covered and she didn't like the way that it was spoken about. So, Tabula Rasa. I am personally over it, yeah. It's Tabula Rasa. He is too much of a value add to the show for us to keep caring about this. Yeah. He didn't do anything bad or wrong. Yeah, no, and it's time. He navigated a breakup in the way that he thought was right. Yeah. Time served. Yeah. And so, yeah, we'll see what the season holds in store. It really just seems to be about like the dissolution of the marriage. But to me, like that episode, it's over. Yeah. Not one kind moment. Yeah. Painful. The going to bed, like just. He walked into the house They drove separately Oh that was weird Yeah That what I mean when I say like that it also forced like i really think that they they probably knew that it was they were going to eventually because they weren trying to make it better but i think that they would have been more respectful to each other if they knew that it was over and like we're just being on a show the way that they talk now when she's like we talk very respectful very good we can be friends he made like a toast to her at the premiere party said nice things about her because the future is bright. Yeah. Our fifth and final story, Tell Me Lies recap. Yes. Okay. Felt a little repetitive this episode, I can't lie. Like nothing major except for Brigley. Brig. Okay, I'm obsessed. I am too. However, I didn't love that their first kiss was like a musty morning after kiss. Ben said it and I was thinking, did I say anything? Her fucking breath. Her breath, of course. Must have been so rank. She slept on the floor of her teacher's house, okay? She was out all day because it was a day party the day before drinking. I just know she smelled so bad that I couldn't romanticize it. I didn't find it romantic. I was like, you're not going to kiss right now. Yeah, it would have been better if like when she woke up at the teacher's house, they showed her just like going to the bathroom, like rinsing her face. Freshing her face. Maybe rinsing some water. Or like using some of Marianne's creams. It would have been like a psychotic thing to do. I like that. But she would have been fresh as a daisy. Oh, I love that. um it was a very upsetting episode for lucy like that game first of all i hate that freshman like girl run for your fucking life but like no one can tell her anything no no one could tell her anything and like no one's even tried because diana and lucy if they say something to her like steven look like jealous no but like if steven finds if she if they were successful in saying something to her steven would have his revenge with them they can't do anything so he didn't send the pictures to the school he sent him to her dad which like i'm relieved honestly um because her dad they'll work it out like it's a temporary yeah it's a temporary thing um like just so many upsetting the whole i'm not really understanding the alex thing which part the end okay so like the total time he's been like a good guy like he's been a good guy he he sees her as like a wounded burden so he doesn't want to like you know be rough with her he wants to take care of her i I think he's like a caretaker the way he took care of Brie Grom from his childhood and everything. But like- There's a dark side of him? No I just think that he is moving on from like seeing her in that way which is what she wanted OK but I was getting the vibe that like she sees in him like a dark side where he likes the like rough and tumble Like not in a way like what he said, like not if it's coming from a place of trauma. He didn't want to do it when he thought it was like she was coming from a place of trauma. And how does he see how does he not see that it is coming from a place of trauma because she's sitting on the bed crying. She's like crying for other reasons. It's not crying because of Chris, you know? He thinks she's crying. Crying because of Chris. She's crying because she made that video. Like, it's like separate things. And she's doing it. It's not, I guess it ultimately is trauma, not the trauma he thinks, but like she wants to like punish herself for the bad things that she's done. It's a lot. I'm not going to like pretend to understand all of it, but I feel like, I don't think he's like a bad guy at all. I think he's actually a good guy. And I think like people are having conversations about, like the conversation between Diana and, Lucy. Lucy, I think I was going to say Lisa. I'm like, what the hell is her name? About like how to handle Steven. And like hers is like, yeah, Diana's is very like, she's protecting herself, but yeah, she's not like, you know, getting justice and he's not going to be put, but it's like a way to live versus Lucy was like, well, this is injustice and we have to fix it. Like, yeah. And an ideal world. Sure. But like you guys have to coexist and you have to live. So like Diana's method is the more effective one. Yeah. I think Diana's method is the only way through. He's graduating soon. Hopefully we could all move on. And you just don't want to set him off. And look at the wedding. Diana's the one who has successfully escaped his grasp. She's moved on. She seems to be a successful lawyer. She's in a relationship with Pippa. Whereas Lucy's still having sex with him and playing whatever games that they play. Yeah. Very upsetting. Yeah, it was very upsetting. the party like the way Lucy was just like skulking around like just nervous at every corner. And also like like you said it doesn't occur to these people like Lucy specifically that she can transfer and again it would solve all of her problems. She also can start hanging out with a different group of friends. Yeah she is considering study abroad which is good but that we haven't heard back from that would be next semester and Stephen is leaving right so not really necessary. Or like if Stephen's going to a party like don't go. She doesn't actively avoid him and it's you know not fair to blame her because he's the evil one but like she seems like she wants to get away from him in some instances, but she doesn't take any active steps to doing that. Yeah, I feel like last season she did. Yeah. She was like being better. She was- And then he got his grips in her again. away from him in some instances, but she doesn't take any active steps to doing that. away from him in some instances, but she doesn't take any active steps to doing that. Yeah. I feel like last season she did. Yeah. It was like being better. She was. And then he got his grips in her again. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't fully under, I guess that's just like, you know, the toxic cycle. Right. But he's so awful. Yeah. It's really crazy. And that game was crazy. But anyways, we have our Brigley. Oh, by the way, obsessed with that game. Like when you're not like in a crazy group of people, we should play. That sounds so fun. I would never take the show. I would just be like, okay. Obviously. And I wanted to shake Lucy. Don't fucking drink. Yeah. That's a way to protect yourself. Yeah. You want to rise above? Great. So they literally gave you away. Yeah. And what was her question? Who hates himself the most? Oh, yeah. From Evan. Who was fucking writing these questions? Obviously, Stephen wrote a few. Yeah. And she wanted an interesting game. So the girl. The girl. Yeah. She's wild. It was giving housewives. Who plays a game like that? Yeah, I feel like they'll play it on Housewives. I never heard of this game before, but it's so Housewives coded. Yeah, I would not drink. I don't care what you guys think of me. Seriously, you're all low life losers. You're going nowhere in life. I all set TTYL TTFN ta ta for now So yeah that Tell Me Nice It episode 8 So like what is there 10 episodes Oh so this was the story That Brie and the actor Who plays Oh Evan was being A real prick Yeah I feel like that was Very incongruous With the guy that we know Like he really loves Brie I feel his love Is really genuine And this sort of Ground baking moment Him being like Why didn't you tell me Like Yeah but I think that comes from like him like being like so loving and like possessive of her where it's like he wants to be the number one person you would think he would be on his best behavior because he just got her back and like whatever you want brie yeah but yeah he's he's acting a little incongruous i would agree it was confusing yeah it was just like they needed him to conveniently become the villain well they said that brie said that the finale is going to blow up the internet really is it this a series finale no i don't there's one more season uh it feels like there's too many loose ends yeah And like, it's the middle of the second semester of their sophomore year. Like they could do more. They have more, the younger girls have more. But once the boys graduate, I think it's over. Well, that's this semester. There's one more semester. This semester, yeah, it's spring. How can we do one whole- They just came back from Christmas. Season, they just came back from Christmas. What time of year is it I think it like February oh Valentine day Right oh so they only like halfway through the only like so it like a couple weeks away from the finale they still spring break yeah i feel like they can equal out and who would not go do another season of such a successful show yeah okay yeah but after alan cumming saying that like the traders banquet was the biggest thing i'm literally scarred traumatized and it was like fine um i'm not believing brie i i thought i was like you know shrewd and jaded and I completely fell for that so we'll see if this really blows up the internet I'm gonna need another Brigley kiss that's not disgusting just putting that out there please and thanks it would have been like sweeter to hug in that moment of course and just sort of like no terms like we're stopping fighting each other like let's just we know and you're here for me it's not just about like we'll get to the kiss you know but right now you're just here for me Yeah, especially because it was this traumatizing evening for her with like her teacher. Yeah, it was not like sexy. Or cute. People are being like, we got our hashtag Brigley because I went on Twitter after to see what people were saying. And I'm like, we got breath. Like, I don't know what you guys saw. I saw breath. You had the same reaction. Me and Ben had a whole conversation about it actually because he was shocked It so us I don know why you would i would think that like that you would it would have escaped me yeah like it of course my first thought you know i'm obsessed with breath yeah and it's like everyone's waiting for this kiss and like that's yucky on the stoop outside of her teacher's house where she just spent the night in her gothic makeup and the musty nature of the whole affair well that's our show you guys Thank you so much for listening to the Toast the Millennium Morning Show, where we deliver the Fast Five Stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. 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