Rumors and Nastiness: Friday, January 9th, 2026

Good morning, girlies, it's the toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Fri-Yay! fry yay fry dairies we did it you guys first week of the new year in the can i think a lot of people look forward to the first monday in may personally it's always going to be the first monday in january for me the monday in january because that means we're back yeah depending on where the new year's falls like we're always just taking off until that first until that first monday in a couple of years the first monday like will be january 2nd and that will be the worst january 2nd on the planet i agree i just feel like that year one of us needs to get pregnant so like we're on maternity leave yeah no but like the beginning of the new year is always gangbusters this week has been so much fun. We've been busting the gangs. We've been busting the gangs. You're here with me. We're together. Redheads came out last night like I said that it would. Nature is healing. Amen to that, sister. How are you doing? I'm doing well. How am I doing? What did I do last night? What did you do? I watched the most upsetting documentary. The Perfect Neighbor. Do not watch it. I'm not going to watch it. I was going to ask, do I need to hear about it? Are you going to tell us about it? I don't. It was an interesting feat in documentary making because it was the first documentary I've ever seen without any interviews, without any experts. The entire thing was comprised of police body camera footage. Like they told the whole story. It was about this like crazy woman who like lived in this really cute neighborhood with a ton of different kids who were always playing out in the yard, always playing in different yards. It was like this real community. And she was this curmudgeon. And anytime the kids would be like even remotely within distance. And she's a renter, by the way. I've heard this story. It was like a two year long. So they literally show all the body camera footage every single time she called the police on these like lovely kids. every single time and everyone in the police all everyone in the neighborhood knew about this crazy curmudgeon she fucking end up killed killing one of their moms and the mom was just like such a fucking real one i was just very upsetting and like they were showing us a lot i don't want to talk about it actually really upset me i was crying about it like it really upset me i was crying protect your peace yeah i know i didn't know i was just like looking for something to watch until traders because traders was on at 9 p.m that's not gonna work yeah i'm gonna have to get back on our screener shit, you know? Oh, yeah, we should get, wait, I think we do get screeners. Yeah I know because I was waiting up till nine I forgot about screeners it been so long because I want to watch like the Valley Persian style I fell asleep at nine or seven So like no but I will be watching all three episodes of Traders by Monday So if you came here looking for the Traders recap, we said Monday. And we did. We wanted to give everyone the weekend to watch it. But still stay and enjoy this episode. We're gonna have a grand old time. And then your Traders episode comes out on Monday. Yes. I did something crazy last night. Crack? Crazier. Meth. Crazier. I started a book for fun. That's insane. That's insane. Like not for the redheads, just for fun to lull myself to sleep. And I chose a book that I had already purchased in my library, but never read. Like I was. Okay, frugal. Yeah. Like giving economical, like frugal thing that I bought. That's my influence. Something new. That's my influence on you. It's not the new Ellen Hildebrand, but a Ellen Hildebrand called Swan Song. And the way she just eases right in. She really takes the edge off. With books, there are like a couple of authors who are like trendy and viral. and everybody reads their book that comes out. And I find that more often than not, like it's not worth the hype. But Ellen Hildebrandt like is that bitch for a reason. Not all of her books are the best books ever. A couple of her books are the best books ever, but all of her books are good. She stays winning. 1,000. An author you can trust. And there's so few things, so few institutions that are trustworthy these days. And like who she is as an author, like is Congress with the books that she writes. You know, sometimes you find your smutty author and it's like, oh. No, not even that. I can't read that. If you have a favorite author, it is imperative that in order for them to remain your favorite author, you never see a picture of them. It just ruins the fantasy, smut or not. It's true. It's just, it's none of our business. And you know that little flap on the book where they put the author photo? The industry needs to get rid of that. It's just, so much of book writing is fantastical, unless it's a biography, in which case you're on the cover. Get rid of author photos. Authorship can be a completely blind industry. I agree. Speaking of favorite authors, not to like sour the mood again. Who did you start beefing with again? No, my favorite author passed away. Sophie Kinsella. Oh, we never reported on that because it happened over the break. That was really sad. She was very young. Yeah, she had brain cancer. She's my favorite author. Short Confessions of a Shopaholic series, amongst other like swirly novels that everyone would love. And so in her honor, you should pick up a Sophie Kinsella book. She was seriously one of a kind. And like her influence on this podcast in indirect ways, like knows no man. Men like you are the reason I left Finland. We love Confessions of a Shopaholic movie Spawned from our love of the book which she wrote And that movie like wasn appreciated in its own time People weren ready for it Well it also is a movie about like excessive spending and wealth And it hit the theaters like the day the market crashed. In 2008. It was bad. So Isla Fisher like was robbed of her Oscar because of the financial crisis. And it's such a shame because there are so many books in the series that are all amazing and hysterical. And they would have gotten the movie adaptation. and we would have had amazing movies for life if that movie came out at the right time yeah but maybe now people like can watch and appreciate it I miss the days where books were like very rarely adapted into movies and tv shows now it's like the only films and movies that come out are adaptations and it's just it's not good but I feel like back in the day when things got adapted they were like chosen it was special and they were created with like a lot of thought and care And they were created. They weren't just selected, not created. Like Gossip Girl. Oh my God. Yeah, they became so big. Twilight. You forget that they were based on books. Hunger Games. Hunger Games. Yes. Something Borrowed. Literally the best adaptation of all time. Harry Potter. Also an adaptation. Yes, I forgot about that. But I feel like the books are as big as the movies. movies whereas like sometimes the movies or the media like eclipse the actual book game of thrones yeah game of thrones like who i actually know one person the show is bigger than the book much too good for children let's do with you what'd you do last night oh you started my book i edited the redheads it was a very intellectual evening for me whatever the opposite of intellectual is like that's what i did yeah but we're gonna have some change going on at the redheads in order to set us up for success i mean okay not to be like make everything about me i've been telling you four years to hire an editor Jackie so you're very me like that like you're so passionate about you refuse to let go of any delegate I'm very like hands-on with the redheads and one we're going to have help editing but two another thing that I floated past the girls that they were not about video no we do record video but like we don't have that big of an audience where like we can really be splitting it right right you know right I guess but if you want to have a bigger audience like you do that through video just oh that's true no but we like have video if we wanted to do clips or stuff but it's just like it's not pargy and we just like you're all in different places it's hard to do video when you're all not in the same state yeah we all like it's just okay but what the other change no so usually i host the show i do the outline i do the db like i choose the questions and then I move the show along for every single book only when I became pregnant did the girls start doing the recaps like summarizing the book that they chose because I was running out of breath and like so it like necessitated change which was a good thing now everyone just does like the brief description I feel like when you choose the book like you should get a little bit more homework for the episode so it used to be your homework was that you have to do the summary for anyone who didn't read the book or like just to remind us all of what happened in the book now i'm like i think the person who chose the book should lead the episode okay choose the questions i'll help like move us along but like you should be the discussion leader if you chose the book i was editing last night i'm like i'm sick of hearing myself and i just i feel like switching it up will just make for an inject new life into the girls were like no but you're so good at it i'm not like really that great at it and i you are i think um i think they could do it so we are going to try that and then we're also going to have a set date we always like talk a week before the episode needs to come out be like when can i record these girls are so busy we're all so busy so i think we all sing uh so now it's going to be like the first monday of the month or like the monday before the episode we record at three o'clock every single time don't put anything on your calendar that will make it easier yeah the decks and that gives us then four days to edit so major change coming to the redheads because we've got like it's necessitated i know that was hard for you yeah i'm glad what's hard for me just like offloading changing no it's not hard for me it just never really occurred to me like it was working for so long and then the last few months it's not working we can barely get an episode out so change is coming to the redheads it's never too late to become a redhead redheads always pops off in january because everyone has like new year's resolutions to read more right to like do more intellectually stimulating things and let me make it easy for you join the redheads we read a book a month and then we do a hysterical podcast episode That's like definitely the cadence at which I'm now reading, if I'm lucky, one book a month. You should join the Redheads. I should. I know. I pick and choose the Redheads. And also, the good thing about the Redheads is like, yes, you can stay tuned every week. You can also just go read a book that you guys have read and then go listen to the episode, which I've done a million times. We've read, not to be crude, 69 books. I feel like we should just like end it now. Yeah, right. I just want to say 69 books is so many books. So many books. There was a year that I read 60 books. Like, that's insane. That is insane. I really had no life. Oh my God, do we have a story today about Dibs? No. You know, Kelsey Ballerini's dog died. Oh, I didn't know his name was Dibs and it's not a story, but I did see that he passed Insane. Insane. I really had no life. Oh my God. Do we have a story today about dibs? No. You know, Kelsey Ballerini's dog died. Oh, I didn't know his name was dibs and it's not a story, but I did see that he passed. So sad. I feel like a lot of people were following along on that journey. Um, and not to like genuinely make everything about me, but obviously I felt like really, um, tied to the story. Yeah. Like her story was a little bit different than mine, but like her soul dog, the dog that she like had her most of her adult life got cancer. And then like, he actually lived with cancer for a year or two. and I feel like on the heels of I sit in parks and then her soul dog dying like I just want to make a PR prediction I do feel like Kelsey Ballerini is going to get pregnant like in a year that's what happens I'm just saying yeah but I think like regardless of the dog like she's no no the dog no not regardless of the dog and she like said in her song and she's a woman of a certain age not regardless like the dog is a huge key player I'm telling you you heard it here first I feel like that's like saying you know Claudia Ashley is going to podcast this year like okay no it's not like no it's not okay here's what would be like the more oh my god it's so quiet what's the word oh girl you're talking to the wrong person i don't know what's the word like less predictable okay will chase be the father yeah yeah yeah okay yeah it's yeah okay cool be our prediction i love that be our prediction um what are the stories today it's friday we have queenie and weenie of the week i'm really excited for mine so many people came to mind when it came to weenie yeah starting out the year in a weenie like manner but yeah it's never too late to change your year actually starting the year out in a weenie like manner it's kind of a good place to start because it's only up from here you can only become queenie you don't think like how you spend the early days of the new year or how you're going to spend your year or that prophecy? It could go either way. Yeah. I did want to say something. You know, I've seen a lot of what people are saying online and I kind of wanted to talk about it, if I may. You want to address the rumors? No, not necessarily address the rumors, but just like speak on something if I could. Oh, I love that. So, you know, the top comment on our YouTube yesterday was that we have too many ads. Like dedicating 30% of your show to ads is insane. Now, I just wanted to like very quickly set some expectations for everybody because we're so, especially me, I'm so mindful of like the minutes to ads ratio. Yesterday's episode was 50 minutes long, 5-0. And the amount of ads we had ran about seven minutes and 30 seconds. And that's actually not 30%, it's about 15. Actually I think it 12 excuse me And just so you know like a standard episode of TV that we all watch without complaining has about 30 of its time being ads So we like way under the industry standard and I just didn't appreciate like people coming for my bag. So I'm always mindful of it. You don't need to be. I didn't appreciate it either. I felt like yesterday's episode, I didn't even notice that it was shorter. It's insane when we put out an episode less than an hour, like the vitriol that's sent our way. Like, would it be better if we put out a longer episode that like runs on and is boring? We're just sort of like dragging. We said what we said. Yeah. I didn't feel like there was anything left to be said yesterday. Me neither. And when I finished, I was like, things we did, that. I didn't even notice. I actually looked at the time and I was like, oh, I guess it's earlier than I thought. Sometimes that happens. Are we not allowed to like have a 50 minute episode? But like podcasts are roughly 45 to 60 minutes. That's what like average podcasts do. Now, of course, we are not average. If you want to come for ads to content ratio, like you can't start with us. Do not, but if we are coming to, if we are coming for ads to content ratio, like there is a conversation to be had. Not about us. Yeah. No. And then like once you talk about everyone else, like then you can talk about us. Like. Right. Per usual, like we like to start at the top of the offenders. I just like, I did the math because it was pissing me off. So yeah, it's 15%. That's what our episode was yesterday. And in a 30 minute TV show, okay, if you want to know, because I asked chat. In a 30 minute TV show, commercials typically make up about eight to nine minutes. That equals to roughly 27 to 30% of the total runtime. Yesterday's episode had seven minutes and 30 seconds of advertisements, which is 15% of our episode. So we are about half the media average for our tiny little Instagram show. Okay. So take it up with David Ellison. Okay. Not me. Thank you. Take it up with Ted Sarandos. Do you know the viral? Take it up with Bob Dylan. What's his name? Bob Iger. Do you know the viral sound from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City? The rumors and nastiness. what's so funny about watching the show like from years ago was i don't know what the viral moments were and it wasn't until the reunion when andy was like let's address the rumors and nastiness and i was like oh yeah that is hysterical yeah and it's meredith who says it and she has a little bit of like a lip impediment rumors like a british accent well that's so meredith the rumors yeah that's it yeah she's a little lit when she said it who isn't and she also is now coming out with a card game called the rumors and nastiness. Love that. Yeah. Hysterical stuff. So you wanted to address the rumors and nastiness Yeah Like I just don appreciate that because that something I really mindful of And I listen to other podcasts Oh and there an amazing button Like on TV like there not a button It's not a button. It's more of a procedure that is sort of imperfect where you have to like scroll. Yeah, but no, not if you're watching something live. Like you can't. Oh, live. Like. You can't hit the FF. Yeah, I don't appreciate that. Like we don't monetize our YouTube. Like we're really mindful. Yeah, I agree. And I love you guys. and I just want you to know like I love you more let the mouse go when you say you love me no I love you more who sings that Miley lead it to Miley one of the meanest things you've ever said in the history of this show we might have a walk off how could you how could you do this to me What I more so meant was you and Miley do not have the same register. I actually disagree. You think you like you and Miley. Like there are some artists who you should sing their songs because like you have this. You're in the same key. So I'm glad you brought that up. People I am in the same key with. Barbra Streisand, Lea Michele and Lady Gaga underrated. Like I sing every single one of Lady Gaga's songs. Sickening. Oh, I love that. So not Miley. So that's all I was saying. I stepped right into that one. And Miley, obviously. Yeah. When you say you love me. Yeah, no, it's not. It's not. No, I like I could do it. Love you more. It's not bad. Obviously, it's better than whatever you could do. I didn't even mean to be so shady. It's just naturally like in your bones. Yeah. Shabbat Shalom. Shabbat Shalom. I'm going to have Shabbat with my swirls tonight. Yeah. Shabbat with the swirls. Hopefully you leave that toxic energy at the home. Hopefully you sing in your key when you do the blessings. This fucking bitch. there are a couple of things like you could attack me for water off a duck's back you're fat you're ugly you're dumb you can't sing because I know they're not true right but I'm so like my singing voice is so personal to me you know and it's sort of this thing that I like I'm kind of shy about if you will so you agree you think you're really shy I mean I said the other day like yeah I'm shy that's what everyone says about me like she's so shy and you were saying that in earnest yeah I'm I'm fucking shy, earnestly. I agree. And you know what? Fine, yeah, I'm fucking shy, okay? Because when you're not shy, there's so much pressure on you. Like when I go to a dinner party, it like dance monkey dance Do you know how many times I gotten up in front of a dinner party and just started singing Because people are like you sing you have to sing And it like well I not going to be the shy girl So you know yeah I fucking shy If that what it takes for everybody to leave me the fuck alone I shy Finally, an admission. It only took three days. It only took all week. I said it three days ago. Yeah, that's true. Do you feel too shy to get into the Fast Five stories? Yeah. Okay, I'm shy. I don't want to do my work. Okay? I just want to be shy. Because shy people get away with shit. They're like, oh, she's shy. She was not rude. She's shy. But me, it's like, well, she's not shy. She was obviously being a bitch. I'm shy. Okay. I want everyone in the world to know I am shy. Stop asking things of me. Like there's just so many big requests when you're not a shy person. Nobody asks. You are shy. And they ask less of you. No, but it's still problematic because I do a show. Whatever. Everybody has their own shit. If you're a showman, how are you shy? And I'm like, I'm just talking to my sister. I just want to say like, I'm shy. Officially shy. stop asking things of me i'm not your entertainer i sometimes feel like the bearded lady in greatest showman come shy late in life not about late in life i think i've become like a little bit more closed off like not to be like so annoying like the more famous i've become famous it's actually a burden and i know what like all those bitches were saying now like fame is toxic it's not toxic but it's very hard to operate like it's hard to go to like music class or like mom stuff like when you're just like a famous person you're like what is she doing this music class You know what I mean? Yeah. She should be up there shaking that. Well, that's for damn sure. Like if all this doesn't pan out, I do know what I'm doing next. I'm interviewing for Fisher price. No, no, no, no. I will be starting like my own in the city. It's called like little maestro's, like one of the Juliet and Ella. Like I will be doing one of those. Okay. And it's going to be called Koji's corner. That's so cute. Oh, so cute. But that's like your aunt alias. Yeah. And so you're bringing like anti vibes to the class for sure. That's it. Okay. Well, I'll sign up. If anybody asks, I'm shy. You have a customer for life. In you. In me. Yeah, and I know you are very, whatever the opposite of thrifty is. So I'm looking forward to doing really well in my next career. Cha-ching, cha-ching. Cha-ching, Koji's Corner. Are you ready for the past high stories that you two need to know? We're having so much fun. We are. But I know you only have so much bandwidth being so shy, and so I want to just get you while you're back. Before your social battery. But I'm being mindful of the minutes. Before your social battery runs out. Yeah. OK. Do you have a social battery? Do I have a social battery? Of course. Before your social battery. Before your social battery. But I'm being mindful of the minutes. Before your social battery runs out. Yeah. Okay. Do you have a social battery? Do I have a social battery? Of course I do. But you have a battery. Uh, yeah, but I have a social battery, but it's not like. You don't need batteries to play. It's not that I like lose like battery talking to people. It's like I lose the will to live talking to people. Do you know what I mean? So it's not that I have no energy to talk to people. It's that I just, I really can't. Okay. Like I, I've, like my threshold for socialization. So it's not a social battery. It's a social threshold. Like I can't. Okay. So when people like my social battery, I'm like, yeah, me too. But it's just like, I don't want to be here anymore. I physically can. I just like genuinely don't. And is it like you're at a hundred percent and you could take this social battery somewhere else? Oh yeah. To my family. I know. Like see with you guys, when I stay at your house, everybody's like going to bed. I'm like, wait, we're not hanging out. I have unlimited social battery for like key people. You have unlimited familial battery. It's regenerative. Yeah. and also look at the few key friends. They don't train you. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. Mark's safe. Yeah, for now. But keep coming for my singing and we'll see where that lands you, bitch. Without further ado, here are the Fast Five Stories that you need to know. And the Fast Five Stories that you need to know are brought to you by The Container Store. Start the year off right. Some of us are trying to read more. Some of us are trying to get our lives organized. And if you are one of the swirlies, I can help you because I'm obviously a very organized person. I shop at The Container Store quite frequently. 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You're welcome. our first story an update in the story of the week celebrity mom group drama mandy moore is speaking adjacently about the issue megan trainer is speaking directly to the issue although i didn't really understand her tiktok i just want to say so i had to watch without sound um oh that's so funny you want me to play for you her typing yeah i need to hear the sound because i was like in a nap trap and this is i didn't play it while i'm going to her tiktok it's just a great reminder to everyone listening to our show. Like you can follow me on TikTok, at girl with no job. Okay, ready? So Meghan Markle, trainer, made a TikTok. She's like typing on a computer. The text says, me finding out about the apparent mom group drama. It a Meghan trainer song called Still Don Care So we see she using that as a promotional opportunity which we respect This is a business This is the biggest story in the country right now And it probably one of like the biggest most mainstream things to happen to Meghan Markle in a while She's been doing well for herself, I just want to say. No, she has like a really nice career. Longevity, for sure. She's had a huge boost with TikTok. But in terms of like big mainstream things that everyone's talking about. You can't pay for this kind of viral moment. I saw also her husband, Junie Cortez, was saying something. Everyone should get in on this, capitalize on this. Mandy Moore took to Instagram to rave about Hilary Duff's husband, Matthew Coma. So like she's throwing her weight behind the Coma Duff side of things, the Tisdale. And everyone's just sort of falling into place. And it's very much clear. Tisdale v. the women. And it's very much, again, don't let them gaslight you. They're talking about this celebrity mom group. Yeah. Everyone's addressing it in their own way. Some people are taking it as an opportunity to promote, which is great. It's hard to get attention as a woman in media these days. And also Mandy Moore then like, you know, Mandy Moore was one of the most famous people to have lost a lot in the California wildfires. And it is the one year anniversary. And the thing that she posted yesterday about Matthew Koma was that like he's such an amazing person. I believe that he like provided a lot of housing for Mandy and her family when they were displaced. So it's like, well, now we've brought up the fire. So and also I wanted to address because people are saying that the reason why the women fell out with Ashley is because when the fires were happening, she was insensitive, perhaps tone deaf, as Matthew Coma said, because she was posting like about her new house that she's building and like making about the house that she has not an and a poop. You don't have a house, but I've got a new one while other people are losing their houses. Now, I just want to say I do feel like you can read into that and you only read into that and see the negative in that when you already didn't like the person. yeah but also I don't actually think that that's that like there are two I think you know these grown women can hold space for two truths like many more lost house and Astro Tizzle has a new house like two things and as of Thanksgiving they were all hanging out so that's almost a year after the fires like I don't know I don't I think now it's like well in hindsight like she was posting about no no but I also think like when you already don't like someone like you find fault in everything that they post and you could see that and be like she's tone deaf as opposed to like if she was your best friend and you love her and she's just like doing her thing and posting. You're not like, like, you know. Yes, looking into it that deep. It's just like, oh, she's got a nice house. That's nice. Yeah, so. The crazy thing is that now that all these women have responded it like clearly confirmation that this story was about this particular mom group and the fact that Ashley not only wrote so many articles about it like died for the attention got the attention backtracked and then lied and said it was not about this particular mom group is so lame and it's such a bad I don't know what she was expecting from this like she was really like begging for the she was posting about it a lot she wrote this article she got you know some traction from it wrote another one like I don't know what she expected but the outcome has so not been pro Ashley it's really got to be a bad day at the Tisdale French household I just would love to see what the mom group chat is saying right now well if anything it's been like the biggest validation on them kicking her out like they had a bad feeling about her before I can only imagine how they're feeling about her now yeah they're probably cackling yeah so that's the latest I do feel like this story is is dying yes and now that like everybody's like using their own music to promote like I'm officially done with the story but I had fun up until today yeah me as well yeah then the husband's got involved like it just it's over yeah and it's okay but thank you don't cry because it's over like genuinely smile because it happened yeah and just a reminder like it is okay to leave your toxic mom group which is why i will no longer be a part of the show this is this is toxic mom group you literally told me i had a bad singing voice like this is my hillary duff mandy more toxic fan group but you said that you have unlimited capacity you know speaking like more generally for family relationships yeah like i was talking about zach my husband yeah that's why when i go to your house like i want to hang out you're going there to see him yeah exactly exactly and he knows that too when you say you love me no you want guys one of the episodes to be longer okay no I love you more people used to complain that we sing too much I'm glad that that stopped is it I don't read our like comments I don't actually I do but like I guess maybe I do so I don't know that they like people used to complain like in the comments like every day I'm so glad we shed those. Either you've accepted it or you've moved on. And we're all better because of it. To a music-less podcast, we are better. A joyless podcast. That was never happening. We used to get that all the time. I imagine when we added a theme song every day to every episode, that was when they had to do it. We officially shook off. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Zach Bryan has a new album and he's singing about yeah yeah are you ready for our next story zach bryan has a new album and he's singing about chicken fry oh okay here tell me i don't even know this because i don't keep up with losers zach bryan isn't holding back on his new album called with heaven on top so he has some songs he has 25 songs with yeah it's like grammatically weird with heaven on top i'm sure if we heard the song that it's about. Right. It's like a beautiful Sunday with heaven on top. Yeah. It's like totally. Yeah. You should listen to it. Nah. I like my version better. With a beautiful Sunday with heaven on top. Yeah. Chocolates, sprinkles and heaven on top. Give me a cherry with heaven on top. 25 songs seemingly shedding some light on his feelings toward his ex-girlfriend. We don't care. Chicken fry, La Paglia. We actually don't care about your feelings. That's what's so fun. And life with his new wife and his decision to get sober late last year late last year so that's like a month a week ago and also how is he already writing about his marriage got married last week late last year maybe it was the year before maybe it's been a year and a week okay so what did he say about miss lapogs so he has a song called skin taking after okay sabrina miss breen and he takes aim at her promising to quote take a blade to my old tattoos in order to drain the blood between me and you he said quote i'm taken a blade to my own skin and i ain't ever touching yours again i'm sorry this sounds like sabrina how do tattoos take to your skin does your higher ground ever sink in do you love people just to win when it's over okay yeah like she took the moral high ground i guess he's saying because she refused to like be a victim of his abuse like okay you got her yeah um the way and then he like then he said do you still talk shit on all your friends need to take it all to the chin this time stone cold sober i forget who it was that said and it was i really wish i could attribute this quote to the person who said it because like i guess what's the big secret like oh she talks shit about her friends her boyfriend like okay who doesn't like i literally talk shit about every person in my life and it's just like if i love you i'm talking shit about you like i forget who said it it was like yeah when somebody leaves a room like we are talking about you like it's human nature it could be bad it could be good that does not mean we don't love you like we're just talking who said that i don't know it was so brilliant i feel like it was like maya angelo or something I not heard that one but I do agree Does anyone know what I talking about I feel like I saw it on TikTok He drove a wedge between her and all her friends And then she like didn have her friends anymore and maybe spoke poorly of them because they weren her friends Right And she was like in this crazy ass relationship Like I just there's I don't even know if there's anything he could say that I would be like, you know what? I feel that. Or, you know, I see his side. Yeah. Well, I wonder how the album is. I'll have to ask Margot Washtray. Yeah. One thing about our sister Margot, she's like an extreme. You know, you have like a couple of friends who like randomly like listen to Chris Brown. like that's Margo and Zach Bryan yeah Margo doesn't listen to Chris Brown that would be way worse I just want to say um she listens to Zach Bryan and she's not afraid to show it there's some things you have to listen to in secret and I get it like but she doesn't even yeah so I think that's like more respect yeah yeah yeah so let's see if she likes the album I'm sure it's good like no one's saying he's not a good song maker he just also is like an abuser holding space for two truths Bad guy. Bad guy. Are you ready for our next story? Oh, time's flying so fast when I'm with you. It's some music news because it appears as though we have to go to the Houston Rodeo. Who's performing? I've actually always wanted to go. I've been to the Fort Worth Rodeo. They had no like famous singers there though. Kelly Clarkson and Rascal Flatts. You're kidding. Wait, when is it? The rodeo is A series of dates In 2026 Like March 2nd, March 3rd And it's like different Wait Perform on different days We are obviously going First of all Because that's like a fun Family thing to do Mm-hmm Rascal Flatts perform Oh my god Should we do like Houston Week for the toast? Rascal Flatts perform March 4th Kelly Clarkson's March 14th Okay so we can't Stay for 10 days Oh fuck But like We are seeing Rascal Flatts Perform before Like at a concert So maybe we just go for Kelly Okay March 2nd Is Riley Green Oh, I've seen him perform. I don't need to fly to Texas. But if we go for Rascal on March 4th, the next day is Russell Dickerson. Okay. Also really good. And the next day is Lizzo. But a fun, no. A fun fact about me is I've never seen Kelly Clarkson perform live. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy. You haven't lived. No, I know. And like I've seen Russell Dickerson. I've seen Rascal Flatts. I've seen all that Riley Green. So I need to go see Kelly. Okay. And if we go to Kelly, the day before her is Shaboosie. Your favorite. And the day before him is Chris Stapleton. Oh, we're obviously going to that. Yeah. And that's like a three day run. Oh my God, it's so fun. This is very exciting. Yeah, we can we actually, like, we're always like, we should go and then we just lay at home. Okay, wait, let me just like think. So it would be March, the middle of March. You have somewhere to be? No, no, I'm available. I am also available Okay Let just make sure it doesn coincide with like Passover you know It doesn That would be bad passover beginning of ape okay no we going watch out houston here we come hold us accountable should we do oh my god oh my god okay from the rodeo well of course we do podcasts like for the days that we're there and anyone of course a kelly rascal come on the podcast oh maybe that's where we get kelly let's take an rv you know it's my dream because i fucking love that movie RV with Robin Williams and Cheryl Hines and Jojo um let's do it like let's all load up in an RV who would drive the RV though my husband's a good driver okay but Jackie but like RV is not no he can like we've he would need to spend the next two three months like getting his RV license yeah okay I'm open to it but then it's not fun for your husband so we could like have a driver but then there's like this is a random guy in the car with us you know okay I'm putting Houston in To see how long the drive is. I just want to say, and we can podcast. Like, I would die. Okay, so it's 16 hours. Oh. But I think that, like, we drive eight hours one day. Like, stay somewhere cargy overnight. I guess it's just, like, 16 hours we're not driving. We're not in a car. We're in, like, a playground. And if we break it up to two days, how do people do it? Well, to be clear, we also could break it up into, like, five days and, like, stop and see places, you know, if you wanted to. Okay, that's a misery. Remember when the Beermans did that on Dopey Tardy? Oh, man, this is my dream. as long as I get the bed in the back and you guys sleep in the bunk beds of course no I'll be much thinner by March um due to the zip bound so I might be able to take one of those bunk beds imagine the kids no I'm telling you it'd be amazing car seats do you need a car seat yeah yeah that's like not as fun it takes up like a lot of space no no it's fine like in the front they sleep in a car seat oh yes sleeping at night no we're gonna sleep in a hotel remember we just said we're gonna stop okay and like should we also wrap the rv and like the toast because now work driving cross-country like this is a promotional opportunity i guess oh my gosh just an idea i really think we should like is there like a company that does this sort of stuff for you you know what i mean probably like plans it out like if like that would be helpful luxury rvs oh yeah of course it's got to be lux just to be clear okay luxury at this point like let's just take a jet you know if we're going lux and oh i'm right uh luxury every and do they come with drivers. Yeah. The more I think about this play, like we obviously need a driver. And what's going to be playing on like the screens the entire time? Of course, RV. Have you ever seen RV? Yes I have It the best movie Like yeah Oh my God I like so excited Just the idea of of trips never looked this good No I telling you And I ended up on like TikTok where people like do RV tours or they like selling RVs And they're like, here's our Lux model with like the 14 inch platform or whatever. And let me tell you, like these ain't your grandma's RVs. OK, like they've got plasmas. They've got Wi-Fi. They've got like reclining chairs. I'm telling you, I could see you're getting excited. I'm open to it, but I don't know. Like, how do I entertain kids in the car for, like, eight-hour stretches? Oh, my God. Like, music, games. Like, I Spy. Like, so many games. Eight hours of I Spy. No, like, Kayla would love it. I'm telling you. Okay. I'm open. And, like, what's, like, one thing between – we could leave from here, obviously, because it's closer. We leave from here to Houston. Like, one thing in the middle that we, like, absolutely need to see. So there's a couple things. Like, first of all, we would like be driving through the panhandle. So like we could also stop in like northern Florida, like 30A, which is beautiful. I don't know if you've seen. I don't need to leave Florida, like go to see more Florida. It's literally different. But New Orleans. Oh, my God. We got to do it. But like, actually, I feel like New Orleans might take us out of our way a little bit. Houston really is the easternmost part of Texas. I didn't even realize. That works for our trip. It's right there. That really works for our trip. We pass through like what? Like Louisiana? We pass through. so we drive up florida to the left what about the grand canyon is that anywhere nearby no nowhere nearby yeah no it's really louisiana to how many a state park i've never been to a national park like we could hit a little bit of alabama and mississippi okay so like mobile alabama oh my god you're kidding me mobile alabama i'm not even joking you don't know what i have to say no oh my god ready but i somewhere else that we actually have to go just hold on we have to go to mobile alabama so i could literally do this i stepped off the bus in mobile alabama the sun was slowly setting on the bay it was six o'clock on a summer friday afternoon shabbos was an hour away We walked around the town wondering what to do Cause Shabbos is no time to be feeling blue But then I saw a man who looked the same way too I was quite relieved to find a fellow Jew Two, three. I asked the man I saw how many Jews in this town Whoa, he said to me there used to be a fellow Jew. to find a fellow Jew. Two, three. I asked the man, I saw how many Jews in this town. Whoa, he said to me, there used to be a minion around. Whoa, then one of us passed away and we've been feeling down. But now it seems as though another Jew has been found. Won't you stay with us for Shabbos, minion man? Won't you stay with us for Shabbos, minion man? And there's another verse, but like, I won't bother you guys with it. Do you not know Minion Man? I do. A classic song from the Onyx. I was just looking up ways to shave off time on the trip. But the other place. Of course, like I'm over here like envisioning dreams for our trip and you're over here trying to shorten it. Yeah. Like if we flew to the top of Florida. Oh. And then started our drive like from Tallahassee. Is that better? Yeah. We would. What about Seaside? Yeah. That's like. Okay. So I have some friends we should visit in Seaside. The Reeds. That's what I'm saying. That's what I said. 30A. The Panhandle. Okay. That's why I said like when we drive through, like we actually should stop there. It's very pargy. Okay, so we'll spend a weekend at my friend, the Reed's house. They have a sick house and they're always inviting us. So like we'll go. And then maybe they'll come with us. Oh my God, this is so fun. The other place that's on the way is Pensacola. Jackie, we have to go on this trip. She's from Pensacola. That's not much bigger than Maysville. If you guys know that one time I auditioned for a Lawn Diner SVU episode and it was in my monologue and I obviously didn't get the part because I was obviously too beautiful for it because I needed someone really ugly. Like an actual bridge troll. Okay. We have to go the Pensacola sign and like do the monologue I'll have to find the script in my email somewhere and I have another idea for how we could um I don't want to talk about this anymore because I know we're not going to do it no but this would make me like this is enticing just because we set our resolutions like make more money oh okay I'm money making shows along the way to an area that like we have no plans to otherwise and then the RV is an expense and because we're not touring because we're not like touring artists no yet but that's always our thing like we always say if we go Somewhere like we should do a show. To pay for the trip. Yeah. Let's do it. Mobile, Alabama. We're huge in Alabama, by the way. I've done like a ton of stand up in Alabama. Like all over. So we should do a show in Pensacola. And then I also saw Lake Charles. I like the name of it. Okay. Charles. Charles. Lake Choochee. Lake Choochee. Okay. So can't wait to never do this, but it was fun to envision. I feel like if it's meant to be, it will come together. You know, if like. If the stars align. Yeah. If the Houston Rodeo reaches out and is like we would love to have you Right We could like if somebody dropped out we do a live podcast instead of like you know And maybe one of us could sing I wonder which one Are you ready for our next story? If it's our next story, that's brought to you by Rocket Money, the part, Bajarji is a sponsor. I literally was telling Jackie before the show, I have tightened my purse string so much, I'm even shocking myself. And the beginning of the year is such a time for like budgeting, for cutting back financially, being a little bit more economical. And if you're looking for a partner to do that, highly recommend Rocket Money. So Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps you find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, helps you lower your bills so you can grow your savings. 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Our next story, Khloe Kardashian reveals how her family handles money splitting costs oh yes so Chloe took to her podcast to talk about how the girlies split costs on certain items and their philosophy around like sharing and paying for each other so she said me and my sisters do not vetmo each other but we always take turns she said I would never go with one of my sisters and expect for them to always pay we always rotate it's just never really a thing because everyone's really respectful with each other she said she recently footed the bill when for Kim with their kids they like her kids and Kim's kids all needed like new shirts for spirit day and they have this like little shop and that only accepts cash so Chloe didn't like Kim didn't have any money so I was like I'll get it for you it's nothing and she was like I'll pay you back just tell my business manager to get you the money and she's like Kim it's fine we're good I didn't get it back but later she was like oh let me buy this for you since you got me that stuff she said we're always aware of someone else spending money I think we're dare I say normal in that regard. So what I heard Chloe was talking about how her and her sister split expenses. I was like extremely excited. Shirts for Spirit Day did not come to mind. I was more so thinking like chartering jets. No, and it's like when they go on a trip, I imagine they split the trip. But like if it's Kim or Kylie's plane, they're footing the bill for the plane. So how does that factor into stuff? Right. I was like the things that normal people don't buy, like normal people do buy shirts for Spirit Day. That's more so what I was like looking for clarity on. And also like when you're at that level of wealth, does everybody split things equally? Or is it still like, well, Kim's a billionaire and like Courtney's not. Like I was really like more curious about that. I would never expect them to tell us, but she's like opening the door and giving us nothing. Well, I feel like it one, it all comes out in the wash too. I feel like oftentimes I would imagine like someone planning a trip Like they want to take their kids to the mountains We going on this trip Does anyone want to come And everyone sort of like tags along Now I imagine if you always tagging along and you never like doing your own trip paying for your own trip, then like you might not continue to get invited if people feel like they're always paying for you. But I'm sure it's like akin to normal families, just on a much bigger scale. Yes. Like I've never Venmo'd you. No. For anything. No, but we do zelle one another for like bigger stuff. Yeah, we do zelle one another. Yeah, not that much. Not really. It's more so just like you get the next thing. Yeah, yeah. I actually can't recall the last time I zelled you. I can recall the last time I zelled you because I'm me. But also because it was just so recently on New Year's for our hair. For our hair. Okay, yeah. But I didn't ask you to. No, but Jackie, you were the one who coordinated someone coming to do all of our hairs. Then you paid for everyone's hair. And I was like, well, no, don't pay for everyone. I'll pay for mine and some else. You know, like a little zhuzh. that was very sweet of koji i didn't ask i was happy to do it because i'm not like i'm mindful of finances but i'm not disgusting like i'm oh i'm never gonna leave people being like oh she didn't pay or she didn't like i'm generous but i'm just like having a nightmare fit about it when i get home you know yeah like i'm paying for everyone and then crying about it yeah you know what i mean like i don't think anybody's ever described me as like not generous or cheap um except for ben because he's the one who like here's how i truly feel you know like that fucking bitch you were just telling me this morning what you think she's gonna pay me guy how you truly feel i literally like yeah because at the beginning of the year like yeah you want to start rocket money you want to start on the right foot and be financially mindful yes and i was being like a little nutty like at the end of last year like i moved apartments like my rent is much more like i'm just like more i'm like here like just like spending money like like when am i going home i don't know like i'm just being nutty yeah that's why we have to go on tour yeah right of course everything will be better after the tour the rv the rv tour Yeah. That would be hysterical. When we don't do it. I'm open to it. I'm just like reverse psychologizing. No, I'm open to it like for the kids, you know, because obviously an RV doesn't sound like my idea of a good time. I get motion sickness. I don't like to travel backwards or sideways. Like I'm going to have to be sitting shotgun. Next to the driver. In the jump seat. Yeah. But like if it's going to be a great experience for the family and for my kids, like I will be open to it. I'm so excited. Are you ready? I'm gonna start like whispering to your kids, like tell your mom you want to go to the RV. Cause then like, if they're like, we want to go see you. She'll be like, okay. Yeah. Then I'll plan the best RV trip ever. Yeah. You won't even have to plan it. Great. I'm going to go to an RV. I'm going to go to an RV. Because then, like, if they're like, we want to go see you. I should be like, okay. Yeah, then I'll plan the best RV trip ever. Yeah. You won't even have to plan it. Great. Works for me. Guys, come here. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Mm-hmm. Kendall Jenner is addressing the rumors that she's a lesbian. Oh, I thought you were saying she's addressing the rumors that, like, her plastic surgery. No. Yeah, because she said she's never had anything done except for baby Botox in her forehead. No filler. No nose job. she said that no lip no lip that's was really crazy and she said she's never had a nose job like bible on my life i've never had a nose job she said that she took accutane um and there are like her lips there are theories that accutane shrinks your nose like people have said that like there's no medical data that proves that but a couple people like i took accutane and i swear to god like my nose got smaller and she said that's what happened to her i can believe that accutane is extremely powerful and potent yeah and like strong strong so i can believe that lip Lip. I'm curious about, she said no fillers. Hmm. Yeah. But so what is she saying about her being a lesbian? Yes. I forgot that people think that. I haven't thought that in a while. She's breaking her silence on the rumors that she's secretly gay. I'm cracking up. So she went on In Your Dreams podcast. That's also where she said the plastic surgery thing. Oh, okay. And she talked about the gay rumors. She said, there's this whole side of the internet that thinks I'm a lesbian. she confirmed that she is not gay but that she would have no problem coming out if she were she said i understand that coming out is not an easy thing for anybody if not most people and i'm not saying that's an easy thing but knowing and i can speak for myself here it's so funny all the coffee like all the different yeah right don't cancel me i know it's hard i do this i know for everyone it's different but for me if i can speak on my own experience she said if i can speak for myself here and knowing myself i think at this point in my life i'd be out if i was. She acknowledged that she knows coming out is not an easy thing to do. She's just saying, I'm just saying that knowing me and knowing how I'd want to live my life, I would. I'd have no problem being that. She reflected on the narrative that she's hiding this thing from her fans. She said, I've seen really fucked up things that are like, it's bad for business. And I'm like, what? How? I don't understand it. All's to say, as of today, I am not gay. I don't think I will be, but I'm not closing doors to experiences in my life. Okay. And that's like one way to throw if you are, like, I know that people thought that because like there are a couple of things about her that not like typical girl you like I a nerd and like I like horses But I don think that I haven thought that for a while I do know that people think that it not that big of like a corner of the internet like a couple of years ago people thought it like it really not huge just like she's acting like gay lore you know like people do like there are I do feel like people sometimes think that about her and I do think it's because and she said this too she's not like public in her relationship so you never really see her like loved up with a guy I don't know why people immediately then think that she's gay but I guess also compared to her sisters who are like oddly traditional in the sense of like having kids um and she's the only one who doesn't have kids maybe that's why I don't know no but it's been a while that this is just but I I first of all I believe her because that's what she said and yeah all of her reasons like if she were gay she would come out there are a lot of people in her industry who are and it doesn't affect yeah I feel like what she's saying without trying to also her dad is trans right right I feel like which is, it's a welcoming space. Trying to say like without being insensitive, because like I said earlier this week, like there are, you know, people, but for the most part, like, I feel like we've evolved past like, you know, gayness. Like it's like, like it's the least big deal. Like- Especially in like certain industries and- In Hollywood specifically. And parts of the country. Like it's not the big deal that it once was. Right. And like coming out, I think these days looks a lot different than it did like 10, 20 years ago. And I think that's kind of what she was saying. So, yeah. I didn't really wonder if she was Les, but she's not. She's not. But it's also like. Like she didn't close herself off to it. Interesting to know. Well, she can't, you know, all the different. I do also think like if you are really deep on like the gay lore, like there is. She's involved. There could be because she was a part of a lot of people forget because so much has happened in pop culture. But like Kendall briefly was in Taylor's girl gang like via Gigi. and then Cara Delevingne. Like there was like a lot of Les energy pulsing through that. And Kendall then like ending on bad terms. Now, of course it has to do with her sister, but like you could, if you were a theory person, you could look into her involvement in that group as well. I agree. Maybe the group got a little Les-y. Yeah. And then it was like weird and they couldn't like talk to each other and then they all stopped being friends, you know? Yeah. Cause are you a gay lore truther? I am not a gay lore truther. However, I'm not, I'm not at all. Like Taylor's like literally been telling us for years. She like loves Dick. Like she loves guys She couldn have more boyfriends Like I do think her friendship with Karlie Kloss that the only thing for me that I feel like is a little curious Like maybe they did fall in love and like it was so fast so furious There are a lot of lyrics that point to. Like dress. Yes. There's a lot of Carly Kloss, but maybe it was just like a crazy friendship. I don't know. That's the only thing I'm like a little like, well. But for the most part, no, I don't. And I don't think you could be like Taylor. you could be like engaged to Travis with like while being a lesbian I don't know or bisexual oh except I did see because I end up on the craziest parts of the internet I did see what gay lore says about Travis because to me like if you ever thought Taylor was a lesbian Travis like everything's over now well Travis is gay they say excuse me you're being so binary okay I'm shy and I'm binary sure what they say Travis is what Travis is gay and you know Ross his roommate who like looks just like him sorry not his roommate his friend who looks just like him that's his boyfriend the gay lore says i don't know ross oh yeah he's like there all the time okay you've definitely seen him um he is travis's roommate and lover and taylor's lover is whomst i don't know who they say she's currently dating um you know there was the fiddler in her band no i don't know about the fiddler yeah there is a fiddler um she played the fiddle back in the early this is what this is and i don't think this at all female fiddler Yeah, I think her name was Emily and they were like really close. And Taylor was like on the trajectory. I think it was like the fearless era. And, you know, management saw what was going on and they sent that fiddler packing. And she was literally never to be seen again. She literally vanished. And that's what Gaylord's people say. I don't think that. I'm just letting you know what they think. Thank you for letting us know. About the fiddler on the tour. The fiddler on the tour. Well, thank you, Kendall, for clearing that up. It's also just like funny to when people like address like really like obscure internet rumors about themselves. It's like they see these things. Not only that, but a lot of celebrities will go out of their way to address like the most random niche. Not like the thing, you know, but that's not what we're actually saying. What are people wondering about Kendall right now? I actually think that this sort of floats out there. So every now and then. Cool that she addressed it. Shall we dive on to Queenie and Meanie of the Week? Yes, we shall. Queenie and Weenie of the Week is our weekly segment we do every Friday. It's sort of the last thing we leave you with on Fridays to sort of wrap up the week, take a look at the week at a glance and we deliver two awards Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week They pretty self If you did something amazing this week you might be Queenie of the Week And if you did something kind of lame this week you might be Weenie of the Week And don take it to heart It is what it is. Now, I think we should just sort of get the weenie out of the way because we obviously both have the same weenie. Say it on three. One, two, three. Ashley Tisdale French. Now, her writing, like, she might not have been Weenie of the Week if she hadn't then released the PR. I'm a registered Democrat. this isn't about the celebrity group it's about a different group of friends like that huge like she saw obviously like the the wind changing and like tried to it's she got she wanted attention and she got it and I want to give an honorary mention to Haley Duff yeah who said screw sisterhood yeah yeah that's weenie like too not as big as Ashley no no Ashley did it on a bigger scale yeah Haley just hit the like button her finger could have slipped yeah I do wonder what Vanessa Ann thinks of all this? She's so far past it. I don't know. She's like a mom. Yeah. And I bet she has a mom group. And a former friend of Ashley's. I'm sure she's texting Hillary right now. Like, isn't she the worst? Well, everyone now, they're like, you know, when somebody's getting like their feet held to the fire, now they're like going back through their history, looking through. And people are like, well, why aren't Vanessa and Ashley friends? They were friends. They're both moms. Like, you would think that they're at similar life stages. So people are sort of pointing that out. And I just want to say, like, I'm not taking up for anyone in this situation. Like, I don't feel. we have no stake in this game everyone's done some wrong and i don't even know necessarily that like i would enjoy this mom group either maybe i would find them to be toxic but i wouldn't write two articles about it and cause them to you know dislike me even further it's always interesting when somebody really like strategically tries to do something pr wise and it flips on them so completely reminds me a lot of like when joe jonas and sophie turner got married like i mean excuse me got divorced i feel like he tried to do something and it ended up really flipping yeah a little different because he like tried to do it like covertly so we can't even yeah ashley was so obvious he didn't leave his fingerprints on it we just assumed um but yeah yeah weenie oh no that was weenie queenie do you want to go first or second my queenie i'll go second okay my queenie i feel like i've made her my queening so many times but it just cannot be like overstated how much joy alex earl continues to bring to me as a woman in media um and also So she's dropping hints that she's launching something. Ooh, what do you think? Give a PR prediction. So she said she's launching her company. She just said a company. She said that a couple of weeks ago. And then she posted on her Instagram, a picture of her doing a photo shoot, which we're being led to believe PR prediction so she said she's launching her company she just said a company she said that a PR prediction so she said she's launching her company she just said a company she said that a couple of weeks ago and then she posted on her Instagram a picture of her doing a photo shoot which we're being led to believe is for the company she's wearing like little to no makeup and I'm just putting it out there I believe it's a skincare company and I think everybody pretty much thinks that um because she's like you know vulnerable about her skin she shares a lot and she's made so many things go like hella viral do you know what MediCube is no okay I didn't know about it either it's now the biggest number one selling skincare brand on tiktok um and her facialist had recommended it to her these wipes like these pads cleared up her skin she's very influential in the skincare space for young women so i do believe like an alex earl skincare line is coming i don't know what it's going to be called but i like that it feels like road but yes exactly sorry and she's my queenie obviously because of like her behavior over the years it's a little bit delayed but i couldn't let the week go by without um honoring her with that title and we did discuss it this week yeah um my queenie of the week always a queenie was queenie like this week a lot of queenies this week a lot of queens um kylie kylie at the critics choice awards wait i'm so glad you brought that up timothy maybe my queenie for acknowledging his partner of three years who's given this him this foundation and who he loves but kylie for being his partner of three years who's given him that foundation that he loves also quickly honorable mention for weenie Minji. I kind of like that better. I don't know why I don't feel inclined to pile on to Ashley to the scale. I think that you should leave your toxic friend group and just go. And just shut up. They should never see you again. We should never know about it. But I'm not so fervent in my dislike. There was weenie-like behavior exhibited. So you want to change yours to Amanda Seyfried a Minji I think I do Because I feel like the weeniness is consistent It overt It troll behavior It more nefarious Whereas Ashley Tisdale like I don know something about it makes me sad. Yeah, that's fair. I'm really glad you brought up Kylie because I needed to say something. And I feel like I can't believe people haven't said this. I see it happen a lot with celebrities who own brands. And I've seen it with Kylie a couple of times. You know, she makes her quarterly TikTok promoting the brand. And, you know, there are allegations like, you don't use your own products, whatever. And she's like, here's my five-step lip combo and she did like this insane lip combo it actually looked amazing and it was like well she obviously knows her own products she's opening the products and every single one of them is in the box like it's a new one and i think this happens a lot with people who um are just making promotional content for their brands with celebrities a lot we get like hailey like you don't use road and it's like well every time she uses road it's like she's squeezing that lip peptide all the way out because she's used it so much i feel like i've never thought that she doesn't use road kylie opened every single brand now where was it filmed in her car car is where you have used goods I was thinking like if it's in her office maybe she just like grab new ones I'm gonna film this video no I need celebrities to if they're making content with their own stuff I notice it a lot you think she wanted to show us the packaging no because it was like off camera she was just like and this is the lip liner but she's like taking it out of the box like well if you love it so much why is it still in the box well no I think she does love it but she probably grabbed a new one like she probably there's probably a good reason why she did it because she do that off camera uses it But yeah, it should feel more authentic. Authenticity is the name of the game. To the social media managers, the brand managers for celebrity owned brands, make sure that you're like- But maybe she's authentic in the fact that like, I pretty much use a new one every time. Yeah, just like squeeze out half the bottle. So it looks like you're using the face wash, you know? Even if you are using the face wash and you just did this because Of course and we on set Let say we on set It a set And part of the act is that you use it often I surprised like social media users aren more discerning I see it a lot. I'm like, girl, throw the box away. We're onto you. And I do feel like Kylie uses a lot of her own products. I do. I do. They're great products. They are good. But like, you know, people often think that. I'm wearing a bit of Kylie today on my lip. I like cobbled together three different lip liners because none of them were sharpened. I have a sharpener here. I found a sharpener in my drawer. My life has changed. That's our show. That is our show. You know what? I have metered parking today, so I've actually got to go. Oh, wow. So even if you wanted us to like dilly dally for the sake of it, RoboCop is going to get me. I've never used a meter before. Very yucky experience. I know you're not chronically online, so I do want to tell you that metered parking is actually like it's fat phobic. I don't know if you know that. Tell me everything. I actually, I feel that. You know, you feed the meter. and when the meter is running out it says i'm hungry okay so that's like fat phobic language kind of like you can't use a manhole it's a person hole or whatever skinny people get fed and hungry as well i thought it was fat because you have to walk and find one what fat people can't walk fat phobic no it's like but what what what about walking fat people can too it's just like exercise like it's happy boxers it's just harder Fatphobic language. I don't appreciate that. I think what you said that feed me I'm not angry is fatphobic. That's not real, is it? 100% real. Well, I'm with you guys. I think we should end metered parking. I did it today. I did not enjoy the experience. They don't take Apple Pay. I had to put my credit card in. It was wet inside It dirty yeah It was wet inside My card came out wet Probably rain but okay yucky that really is gross where you wipe it like i put it back in my wallet okay like in your chanel wallet why not just wipe it on your amazon set air maze that you're not wearing an air maze set but thank you for the my wallet's air maze oh is that the one i got for you for your birthday no it's the one i got for myself that i like couldn't stop telling you about should i show everyone no okay it's really like in this economy Jackie people can't afford rent that's like what everybody says when they don't like your TikTok they're like I literally can't afford to buy groceries excited for me I haven't bought myself a new wallet in 10 years I loved my old one it was just like a little pocket but my lifestyle has changed it's becoming like a mother and I just have more things um so I was really excited like it was a point of pride that I bought myself a new wallet but people can't afford to buy groceries so you should kill yourself that's literally what people say on TikTok like I I mean I literally can't afford to buy groceries so and it's like what this has to do with like this girl's forever 21 haul like it's just the comment people say now it's sort of like this is a wendy's yeah it's like bean soup theory that's what they call it okay tell me bean soup theory is like i'm making a video about how i love bean soup and it's like well i can't eat beans it's like well okay we don't give a fuck it's like what about me isms it's like that's the culture now it's bean soup theory that's well i mean i can't afford to buy groceries but i'm happy that you took a trip to hawaii so we shouldn't talk about our rv trip no you yeah you can't talk about anything because you know someone someone somewhere is suffering yeah so i guess we can't talk i have to end the show the meter is up thank you guys so much for listening to the morning show we do the fast five stories you need to know everybody the friday new deep so you're watching us on youtube please don't forget to subscribe give us a video thumbs up also available as a podcast number podcast we've had so it's about a fight in the future public video broadcast all the places we'll be listening to podcast find us a trusty five story about a beautiful about a sounding about how wickedly talented we are love ya bye leave a message you