--:-- At Starbucks, full and part-time baristas get comprehensive health care benefits. So they have the support that they need in every part of their lives, from early morning runs to school pickups to auditions. Because at Starbucks, comprehensive health care coverage, including dental, vision, and mental health care, is just the start. Learn more at starbucks.com slash partners. That's starbucks.com slash partners. Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday. Hope everybody had an amazing Thanksgiving. And, you know, it's only appropriate that I'm joined here today by somebody I'm extremely thankful for. Oh, that's so funny. Why are you laughing? It's Remy Bader. Hi, Remy. Hi, how are you? Welcome back to The Toast. Is this your third or second time on? No, like third or fourth. Because you came with me and Jackie. And then you came with me once alone, right? I almost think it was twice. Maybe it was once. But, like, I don't know. Well, she's a regular at this point. Welcome back. it's tiktoker to the stars i had to beg to be here by the way well the thing is and i said to ready like and you know i actually did want to talk to you about this every time we're on here i feel like we're very similar we've had like similar journeys with weight we're just very open about our weights and so we always talk very candidly about like being fat and being skinny and people don't like that and the last time you were here i forget what we talked about but like there was so much hate from like the fat community and i figured i'm like she probably doesn't want to come back because like like it just stirred up people i don't even remember what you were saying I don't remember, but I sent Claudia in hidden text, like, I'm just wondering why my Evan and I have been in a fight on the toes. And I was like, oh, I didn't know you wanted to come on. I honestly thought you were scarred from the last time. Like, I don't remember that because I feel like that's happened a lot to me in my life. Well, I did want to talk to you about that because kind of like big deal that you're here now, you're so skinny. You are a completely different person and you went on a different podcast to tell your journey. Claudia loves to put me on the spot with this. I meant to say like right before this, like, let's like go easy on the wheel. if two people aren't going to talk about it me and you like who is going to talk about it I'm sorry we're going to talk about it in a real way so if you're sensitive like get out of here how are you doing like you are not only like you are so skinny no I not yes you are I a size 10 how do you feel like how is life different that really what I want to know because I have lived that experience Yes And I feel like we talked about this here and there but I do feel like we have like we have different thoughts on it. I'm still, I do feel that way. Okay. Yeah. I want to know yours. Because I feel like you just are like skinny, love, like get excited. It's better. And I feel very confused and conflicted. It was very fast for me. I don't remember how fast your journey was, but it was abnormally fast. I didn't know it was going to – I got a weight loss surgery for anyone who doesn't know. And you told Khloe Kardashian. I did. Maybe that's why you weren't invited on the toast. Oh, because you wanted it to be with you? Yeah, you gave Khloe the exclusive. Oh, I see. But now you made me lose my train of thought. No, you were saying that it's not as cut and dry for you as being skinny. I still feel like my brain is still fat. That of a fat person. I totally get that. And I kind of feel like I'll always feel that way. And I'm like very confused. And my sizing has changed significantly. But then I also lost more weight than I wanted to. And I know it sounds weird, but I've always like loved being curvy. Yeah. That was like something I felt like was just, I don't know, I grew up with and I felt was different. And I liked it. So I kind of, I was upset that I lost more weight than I wanted, but I didn't have that decision based on once you get a surgery. And I just think there's also a lot of changes after weight loss surgery that are like a very, very difficult. Emotional. Emotional. And then on top of that, though, things that you have to do for the rest of your life that you don't think about in the moment. So do I think those things that I'm doing now and like the struggles I'm dealing with now post weight loss surgery are easier than the things I was dealing with before from being in significant like back and knee pain and just things that I was dealing with prior. Like your physical health. Yes. I feel better. I feel healthier. But I'm definitely struggling in terms of the emotional, still with the eating, figuring out what to do. I had. Right. Because you still have an eating disorder technically, right? I fully still do. Like I had a binge eating issue before and my mind never changed. My body did and my stomach and my intestines and all the insides are different so that like I can't physically binge. But like you can eventually in a way get yourself there. Not as much with what I did because mine's not just the stomach. You can stretch your stomach back with that surgery because my intestines were involved. Sorry to be like graphic. No, please. That does help you in a way but there a lot I struggle eating every day Forget that you can have water and food in between 30 minutes for the rest of your life And I'll be unwell. So there's just like a lot to learn. And I'm still figuring that out. Oh, wait, that's so crazy. I didn't know that. Well, also, I feel like you and I have totally different experiences, but something similar. Like, I would love to know how you feel about your former self, because that was something I really dealt with, like, I don't know if shame is the right word, but I felt like really conflicted because like I would look back on her and like I loved her and I felt bad for her, but I was so glad to be done with her too. I am in a, I just fully feel bad. For the girl you used to be. Yes. I feel bad for like the way people treated me. A thousand percent. In my personal life and publicly online. I mean, I couldn't have controlled that with like, like the people are going to treat me the way they wanted to. But like, I do feel bad for being like angry with myself and frustrated with myself. like not even like, I don't know, just a lot of things. Like I am in this like very confusing phase. When did you, when did you have your weight loss journey? Like how long ago was that now? It was like 2023 to 2024. I always think of you. Cause I remember like knowing that you were, I knew first. No, but I remember like knowing you were on Ozempic and going through that journey. I was still very much not going through that journey and a little bit. And I use you in my mind as an example, because I always think about, I always like had a little bit of like frustration towards you internally because you were ready and you were doing that journey and I wasn't there yet. So I was still very like not understanding of it, but I would never would be angry with you and like not like you for that and publicly shame you for that. So that's what I don't understand. But I do understand where people are frustrated with me in the way that like, maybe they are just not understanding of it unless they dealt with that. Well, you got yourself like in like a horrible position because you became the face of this movement. And I feel like the difference with you and I, and this is my question for you, was like, did you love yourself, like your body at that time? Because I hated the way that I looked. And so I was excited when the opportunity came to change it. I was like, oh, fuck yes, get me out of here. And I feel like maybe that wasn't your situation. Well, two things in terms of the movement. What do you think? So we've been talking about this a lot, how like Ozempic has erased the body positive movement. And it's like, well, obviously it has, because I think for a lot of body positive people, it's sort of just like a bandaid. Like they don't love the way that they look, but what they gonna spend their life hating themselves So they work on like the mental gymnastics of getting to a place of body positivity But most fat people do not want to be fat That sort of like the underlying thing that if they had this magic thing which Ozempic is they would take it in a second So I don know why everybody's so surprised when like everybody's losing weight. Nobody wants to be fat. It makes it life really hard. I think there's a difference. And I always said that even when I came on here, whenever, since the beginning for five years now, like I said, I am not body positive because I made that so clear because I was like, I never said I loved myself and my body every day. I started online being like, I'm struggling. I just gained a lot of weight from binging my way to gaining weight. And I'm struggling shopping as a size 14, 16 when I was always a 10, 12. That was, I already struggled as a 10, 12. And then I was like, wait, this is really hard. That's what I came online to do. And then people started deciding that I was part of this body positive movement, which for five years I have said, like, that's not a new thing. Like I said, hey, I'm not body positive because I don't, I think there are people that are in the body positive movement that genuinely, whether they're even like, you could be body positive and not a size 20. Yeah. So I think, so a lot of those people truly love that movement and the way they look and how they feel. And I just feel like I wasn't there yet. I think that's a minority of the body positive movement, which is why the body positive movement is like not being erased, but it's not what it was. Cause like, it's hard. It's a hard life. Like I feel like so many things I discovered when I lost weight. Like it's like, I didn't even realize how the other half was living, even small things like crossing your legs, chub rub, like things that other people don't deal with, just that make your day to day so much harder. Yeah. I mean, there was, I would have to have whoever was with me at the time, like buckle my shoes for me. Cause I couldn't do that anymore. And like, there were certain things that for me, it was just definitely the pain. I talked about like infertility related things. And like, there was just a lot that it got more serious for me, but I do feel like I don't, I will always, always, always feel. And that, that isn't, I don't think that's a body positive movement. I think it's just that I care about inclusivity. Like whether I was smaller or bigger, I truly believe it's unfair, especially with right now that just because people are losing weight, that they're going to take away sizes that are larger. I think that's not fair. So I still, any collaboration that like I'm a part of or anything I'm designing or I have more say in, I make sure that it's still inclusive no matter what my size is now. Like that's important to me. What does inclusive mean? Like what, what X? And I think, I think you, I think you. Cause you texted me, you were like, not the toast merch only going up to 2X. Because you texted me, you were like, not the toast merch only going up to 2X. I'm like, wait, I thought that was good. When did I say that? Like, a long time ago. Yeah, it still only goes up to 2X. Yeah, I remember when I launched my Revolve line, it went up to a 3X. I was still, like, new in this world. And that was the first time I got shit on online and, like, torn apart for saying the line was inclusive and only going to a 3X. So in my mind, everyone has a different idea. But in my mind, I would say, very inclusive what I did. Actually, this is the Sam's Club shirt. So cute. The edited by Remy, which is now edited by Hunter McGrady because she took it over. That goes up to a 6X. That's super inclusive. I think that's like great if everyone could do that, but that's not the realistic. And like a billion dollar brand like Sam's like can afford to do that. Right. And they should. But we were able to push Revolve to a 4X. There's another line I'm going to be doing this year, which I'm not saying yet, which is going to be pushed to a 4X. And I think that especially with what everyone taking away says right now, like I think that's great. Other people may disagree. When you've done collabs, what amount of people are buying those sizes? The larger sizes? 100% less are buying. Oh, yeah? Like Revolve, I remember we did really well with the 1X, 2X. And I was really happy that we did with like the 2X even. 3X, 4X sold way less. Interesting. I think that's why these companies need to just spend more time though. That is why they pull back. Yes. But my idea on it, and I've talked to like my dad about this in people and fashion a lot is like, just do it and buy less inventory. No one needs to know the amount of inventory you have. Buy 20 pieces, but at least it's still available. And then you could see, and if it sells out, then do more the next time. Yeah. Now my last question for you, and then I promise I'll move on. I was very vocal. Yeah, I'm going to get like so much trouble. No, I feel like you're being so honest. I feel like it's very refreshing and it's so stupid that you have to explain. I'm nervous every day. Of course, I know you are. And like, that's because I, that's what I was saying, like so much of the fat movement, the body, they're so toxic. I'm sorry. Like you should, the fact that you even feel like you have to explain yourself for making a decision for your health that's completely your choice that's how I felt about going on ozempic like the fact that you have to explain yourself and that people have criticisms of your journey like I don't give a fuck when you decided to tell people I'm sorry I don't it's nobody's business like what you decide to do with your doctor I'm sorry everyone by the way I'm just saying Claudia said that the movement is toxic not me you're right she's right I'm already in my head like this is gonna be clipped and it's gonna say that I'm saying something like clip it no but I can't with you I know you're scarred. I just, I, I'm, I, you are scarred I am at a point in my life where like I don know what to say or do I know I was never afraid like this before I definitely more like I always been overly aware But I am nervous with what to say what to post what I should be posting right now But Claudia doesn't let that. Claudia is just like. No, because I want you to, I want to break you free from the shackles of the internet. Like, I think that it's really, it's not good for the mind. It's not good for the body. It's not good for the soul, Remy. Now, I was very vocal about when I lost weight, like how it changed my business. Like the opportunities that were afforded to me were so different. Like rates were higher. Everything just sort of came up. And when you were thinking about doing the surgery, you and I were chatting and I told you that that was my experience. And you were really worried about it affecting your whole career to this point was, you know, forcibly being the face of the body positive movement. How is work different now? Opportunities, brands, working with brands. I definitely get invited to things that I wasn't invited prior. and I definitely will like say no to a lot of things in terms of fashion because I'm like, that makes me feel more bad for the other girlie, Remy, before. And I actually remember like me and Khloe spoke about that too because she was just like, oh, the people that like want to invite me now that never did, that invited like Kim and stuff before, like screw them. So I feel the same way on that. Do you feel like that's why she doesn't go to the Met Gala? I don't know. I just never thought about that. Sorry, continue. But I know she feels very strongly about that. I agree with that. I don't know if you experienced that. Oh, for sure. yeah like if but I like for me I can be bought like oh you want to buy me like I remember you saying you were just like I have all these new experiences I'm so excited this is a business like sorry yeah like I'm a little bit of a grudge holder so like no and it's not almost a grudge holder it's like you have principles and like that's admirable but at the end of the day this is a business and like seriously we gotta put food on the table but then I have new but then I have new opportunities that are exciting that I I don't know because they're not even like clothing or size related I actually don't know to answer your question because then then I get upset if I'm like, I'm like, was excited maybe that I was going to be a size consultant or do things, which I still feel like I could because I've experienced so many different bodies, but why would they hire me? But does the community approve of you being a body size consultant? I don't think people would want me to do that. So like, I still feel like I have the knowledge and I'm so passionate about it that I could do that behind the scenes and help these brands. But I do think like that's a big change. I don't think people are going to hire me over someone else plus size to be like the size consultant. Right. Well, that seems fair, but like it sucks that you like have the passion for it. But that's why, like I am still in the mindset where like my mind is still like hooked on then and I miss some of the things about that like I not kidding sometimes I scroll and like look on certain plus size creators that I feel are happy and at a good place with themselves and like wish I could have gotten there and then I'm like mad and frustrated with myself so I'm in just this very in between phase where can I tell you more therapy with that no well I think that it's also important to remember like because I feel like at one point like you could have looked at my pages and been like this is a really happy person and I totally was but a lot of it was like faking it till you make it a lot of it was a facade and so that's why I decided to take the journey so just keep that in mind like yeah it's just what you're seeing and free yourself from the shackles Remelina we're gonna get there we're working on it you look great thank you I'm so not enough people talk about how like the physical transformation of losing weight is a much shorter journey than the emotional and mental journey yeah that like never goes away no I was just like oh screw it like in the time I was just like do whatever I need to do that you had to get certain therapy appointments and dietician appointments and things to get approval I think people think I fully like paid for this surgery it was fully covered by insurance based on yeah I mean I was considered like which I screw like BMI I think it's so old but like severe morbidly obese um and I had a lot of like health issues with it so it was like covered um why did I bring that up well I don't know why but that's I think it's an important point when we talk about like you because you've got criticism for like your journey and your timeline in sharing. Yes. But it was a life-saving medical procedure. It was covered by insurance. You don't remember what you said right before that? Oh, no. Okay. Well, maybe it'll come back to us. Yeah. And in the meantime, you've been living your best life. You went to the Wicked premiere. You took your mom. How was Thanksgiving? Great. Oh, no. No, it was great. I spent time with my mom and it was, I love her. She's such a queen. She just texted me this morning, like right before here. I love you. Like just say hi and then she goes, tell Claudia hi. Well, me and your mom are like our best friends. One time me and Ben went on vacation to the W in Miami and it just so happened to be the same weekend that Remy was there with her parents. Not me coming to the hotel pool to see Ben in the pool with your mom. Like we're literally best friends. I love her. And what does she make? Because she's like a star. Every time you post her, she's like kind of viral, viral queen. I would like to. I mean, I think like I need to include her in like a brand deal or something. Like she deserves it at this point. What is she like? Does she like being online? I definitely forcibly do it. No, no, no, no. I think she'll just never admit, just like she watches every reality show and they'll be like, these shows are so lame. And I'm like, you watch it more than me. She will never admit it, but Nat, she texted me the other day and she was like I so embarrassed someone came up to me in the hair salon I had shampoo in my hair And they said are you Idina And I like so embarrassed I like you love Totally love But it's like new for her. I truly never posted her until like probably like a year and a half ago like this. Oh, yeah. No, you've been very consistently. I used to post like my dad. I would post like family and like I never just posted my mom. And I think that's just because of like, I don't know. I would post who was in a relationship with friends, like other things. And then I'm like, I never thought my mom was funny. Yeah. But I think she's funny because she doesn't try. And that's what started happening. Everyone else made me realize actually things that I didn't notice about her. That's really sweet. But she likes it. Whether she admits it or not, I'm happy for her. Definitely. She's like totally like a socialite of West Hampton. Love. I love. Yeah. Now, are you okay, Remy, to dive into the past life? I'm ready. Okay. The story is today. Like I thought that would be a little bit better, but it is what it is. Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Saks Fifth Avenue. And it's the partiest time of year because it's the Saks Holiday Light Show. If you've ever been to New York during Christmas time, you know it's truly magical. Actually, the last time I went, I wheeled over my dying dog in his stroller because he needed to see it before he died. And you know what? No regrets. 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And now she is, like, putting the rumors to bed. DeMois was posting about it. It's, like, kind of the thing on everybody's lips. Like, I think a lot of people assume they were broken up. Like, yes, he has the NFL season. Like, he could fly on a jet, make it one night, whatever. So she addressed speculation that she and her boyfriend, Braxton Berrios, who have been dating since 2023, were broken up after a fan expressed concern about the couple relationship status So in a video posted to TikTok Alex gave her followers a recap of her experience competing on the season 34 of Dancing with the Stars where her and her pro finished second place Somebody said ugh I hope you and Braxton are still together And she replied he couldn come because of football So she says they're still together. She says they're together. They're together. That's what she says. Do you know something? No, I don't. But I love that you would ask me this knowing I'm friends with Alex as well. You're unreal. But I genuinely don't. I truly think they're together. I think they're together. I think that I was like, I feel like I saw people that were commenting that have like NFL husbands and whatever that were like, I don't know much about NFL, but they're like, you literally can get fined. Yeah. And I think he's been supporting her online. I think if they weren't together, he would like not be saying anything. No, I saw he like filmed himself watching the finale when they announced Robert as the winner. And like he was like, like, you know, sharing his reaction. So I think they're still together. I think like him having an NFL career like is a good excuse. Right. I also, I don't know. I think he's sweet. I think I really like him. Not like that has to do with this. I think that, I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to be honest. I didn't really think much about it. I more was thinking about like I was pissed she didn't win. Me too. I understand in the way that like, I don't want to, with people saying, oh, it's rigged, it's rigged. Like, I'm just like, I think I didn't really know Robert as well. Okay. But see, like we're in a different world. Yes. And we're like Alex fans. Like, I think he's more worldwide. Yes. Alex was my winner, but that doesn't mean that Robert isn't like a good winner. Yeah. Like, and I'm not going to be like some of these crazy people online. And, like, people are really, really scary and insane. But, like, I think she's okay. Me too. I think she's okay. She has great things going on. Like, relax. Are you new to the Dancing with the Stars fandom? Or have you watched always? I would say, like, half and half. Like, my sister, like, first time ever. And now she's obsessed. She's like, I can't believe I'm being obsessed with this. But, like, for me, I watched, like, here and there because Brooks was on in front of Brooks. Right, right, right, right. But my mom's, like, die hard from the beginning. She's like, you all think you know. Oh, so does Idina know the history of everything? Yeah, like, she knows everything. It's crazy. Is she like annoying or fun to watch with? We haven't watched enough together. Like I think we watched like once, but no, she just like loves, yeah, she's definitely a know-it-all about like all the things. Like I knew him before you all. Yes, I feel like the OG Daily with the Stars fans. Need to say that. Are seriously unwell people. I'm like that with Love Island though. Like I'll be like, you all think you know. Like I know. You are. I'm a Love Island like bandwagon fan, but you are OG. Yeah, you're a bandwagon. You're like VPN downloading. Yes. No, I'm sorry. I watch live in the UK, in Australia. I'm crazy fan. So when people started just loving US, I'm like, you don't know. What did you make of this season of Love Island USA It was good Oh really No it was fine But I just am a huge UK Oh But there were people from it like You like that girl who goes abroad and is like I definitely am What do you mean I prefer the UK. I'm actually going, like, I decided I want to go in February to the UK. Okay. Because, one, I want to go on, like, dating apps there. I think it would be, like, fun. I love that. And, two, I just feel like there's a part of my soul that, like, should be there. Oh, you're literally the girl who went abroad. Literally. Yeah, yeah. I love that. That's amazing. I come back and I have an accent. What would you do? No, and you're like wearing like a scarf and you're like, yeah, they call this pashmina. Like, that's so you. Yeah. Would you ever do Dancing with the Stars? No. And oh my God, I actually, I'm not trying to be like, everyone was like, but there was a lot of my followers being like, you have to do this. And like friends, close friends texting me, which I'm like, are you okay? Do you know that I could never do this? Never. Like, clumsy would fall, would be in pain. Like, I am not the one to do it. I almost, I wish, like truly wish. You know what I thought, which I feel like you would maybe think too? Like, I wish there was like a singing with the stars. Of course. Because like then we could do that. 1,000%. But I was never a dancer. Singing with the stars. That's actually a hilarious concept for a show. Like, there's like the masked singer. Yeah. There's nothing like this. Yeah, no. It needs to be like a blend of dancing with the stars and the masked singer. Yeah, like. I would win. I don't think I would win, but I think I would like definitely like be into it and be excited. I would win. Okay. Yeah. How? You sing like pretty well. I decided I'm taking, I needed you, like, have more hobbies. Are you on vocal rest? That's what you're going to say? I'm going to take voice lessons. Okay. For fun. Can I tell you something? Why? So, I took voice lessons in college because, like, they were two credit courses. They were, like, 30 minutes once a week and it was, like, amazing. It was taught by, like, some freaky grad student. Voice lessons are not what you think they are. Why? Because you never sing. It's so boring. It's, like, all exercises. Oh, like sight reading? Exercises. Like, you know. Yeah. And then when you do sing, they give you like classical music. Do you think maybe that was because you were in college and it was different? I don't know. The NYU Tisch Performing Arts School, that's the best vocal lesson you can get in the world. Yes, but of course that's going to be like classical and stuff. This is the song that they made me learn. Like all semester we learned one fucking song, right? And it was all in head voice. And it was like this old sonnet. Okay, ready? And I remember it to this day. Anne, Anne sings in the morning with waking birds she sings songs of fairy butterflies with flowers and timely things with waking birds she sings songs of fairy butterflies with flowers and timely things and when she sings it seems to me no voice on earth could lovelier be than sweet and sings all fucking semester and can i tell you that i took vocal lessons because i was trying i wanted to try out for x factor and ben was like you should do it and i was like preparing all season long for my X Factor audition. With that. Literally. And then like the day of the X Factor audition, Ben was like, oh, wait, he was supposed to drive me. Like he had a car and a license. He was like, oh, I actually can't. Like I have to like go do something with my dad. I was like, oh, okay. So I guess I'm not trying out for X Factor, this like lifelong dream. And when I got to the vocal lesson the next week, the teacher was like, how was it? Like we were prepping all. And I literally like didn't have the hug. Oh, you didn't go because of that? I never arrived. You couldn't find a way? No, I didn't have a car. I didn't have a license. Like. you know I tried out for The Voice and didn't get past round one and actually something interesting for The Voice I don't know who watches The Voice like my mom there's a big community oh there's a community everyone in that room I'm not just saying it because one guy I remember like had amazing beyond voices like way better than me and they just literally look there was one guy I was like oh sick it's voice ever he's gonna win The Voice and they just look around the room they go you're all cut I was like whoa right like don't you feel like having a good voice is like a plight because like I think I have the most amazing voice ever but if yeah if I ever but I love that you're confident about it like I get nervous I'm like yeah I sing but like I'm not that good but like no but like you're pretty good but you see that's like because that's that's the trauma of people online like she thinks she can sing oh but like I've ever read my podcast reviews it's all like Claudia please stop singing no I feel like people well I see I don't read it and just for me hearing I'm like oh you have a good voice no I have an amazing voice like let's be real and just to finish up my story I didn't have the heart to tell my vocal teacher that I didn't go to the X Factor audition after we'd been working towards it all semester long. So I was like, I'm waiting to hear back. And then I just like never brought it up again. Wow. Yeah, it was horrible. So Alex and Hermanns are still together. Are you dating, Remelina? Yeah. Yeah. Are you emotional about this? No, I'm dating. No, no, I'm dating. I'm trying to go on more like formal dates. But like this summer was the first time I even like went to bars and was like, get the courage to like go up to guys. It's a totally different experience. Yeah. Yeah, that's again, just one of those things where I'm like, when guys come up to me, I'm like, would you have talked to me before? Like I get like a little like defensive and whatever. No, by the way, that's so fucking valid. Yeah so the guy thinks the same as everything else very confusing still figuring it out have a big wall up But like enjoying myself having fun enjoyable experiences learning what I want what I don want we on a journey I love that. Well, speaking of singing voices, the NFL has announced who's singing the national anthem for the Super Bowl, LX. I don't know what number that is. And it's not who anyone would have thought it would be. And I'm not entirely sure how I feel, but I think I'm okay with it. It's Charlie Puth. Yeah, saw that. So I'm personally attached to the national anthem. It's one of my favorite songs. And I'm always following, like, who's singing it, who does it well. Who did last year? Oh, you're always following. Let me pull up a list of previous, a list of previous. I'm always following all of the years. Previous Super Bowl anthems. Like, I know the hits, of course. Like, Whitney Houston's is the best. Lady Gaga's is amazing. Okay, here's a list of national anthem performers. We won't start in 1967. We'll just start. Last year was, oh, John Batiste. It was good. Oh, I like him. He had like a little funky like New Orleans vibe. It wasn't my favorite, but it was fine. Oh, the year before that was Reba, which I was actually really against, but she crushed it and I was wrong. And then in 2023, which goes in my personal Hall of Fame, was Chris Stapleton. Of course. You love. The year before that, Mickey Guyton. I don't remember it. I don't know who that is. The year before that, Eric Church and Jasmine Sullivan. I do remember it. It was fine. But before that, Demi Lovato. Hers was actually amazing. Oh, right. I'm with you. In recent history, yeah. The only person I would really add to my Hall of Fame is Chris Stapleton. you know like would I pick Charlie Puth like no like I'm fine I'm not like angry I know I'm just like I feel like there's some other amazing people also this is gonna be a crazy thing what about like Olivia Dean she's not big enough yet she's not American she's oh she's British she's my girl she's from the UK yeah London um I have like a kind of a hot take and I know it's like kind of contradicts itself because I just said I really liked Chris Stapleton's but to me Chris Stapleton is the exception I feel like the national anthem should be sang by a woman like it's kind of a girly thing. Like, I don't know. I'm not into it. I need to, now I need to like re-listen to some of like the men and the women. Like Jennifer Hudson. Yeah. Like that's what I want. That's the vibe. Like big booming, belty voices. Like I wish, I wish there was someone like that. Yeah. So like how's, but maybe Charlie will surprise us. I was wrong about Reba. So I'm not going to hold out hope until people, I'm going to let them prove me right or prove me wrong. I'm suspicious. I'm not overwhelmed with gratitude and joy. It's fine. It's fine. Have they announced a Superbowl halftime performer yet? Yeah, wait, isn't it? Who was it? I forget. Bad Bunny. Am I making that up Oh yeah yeah yeah Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Bad Bunny and Charlie Puth An unexpected duo Such an unexpected duo Oh and then Coco Jones They always also do Is doing what America the Beautiful. Oh, I like her. And Lift Every Voice and Sing. So Brandi Carlile is America the Beautiful. I'm sorry. I think Brandi Carlile is an industry- Who that is? She's like a country singer. And I just like, I don't know one single person who listens to her, but she's like always getting Grammys. And then Lift Every Voice and Sing, which I think is considered like the black national anthem, is being sung by Coco Jones. Okay. I like her. Now the next story I know you're unfamiliar with and I'm so excited to tell you about. Les Balls de Débutants. Now I talk about this every year. There is like this debutante ball that happens like in your home country. I think it's in the UK. Where like the young women of elite families have like their, you know, like a classic debutante ball, but it's like for royalty. It's for Hollywood actors. Never knew about it. Like last year was Apple Martin with Gwyneth and their parents go and it's like a really big deal. and this year's happened over the weekend there were a couple of people worth noting in terms of like america and every country is represented america like doesn't always have amazing people because like we don't have royalty a lot of the girls like from greece and spencer churchill like one of lady diana's like nieces was there this year um so a lot of times it's people of hollywood actors like last year was gwyneth paltrow and chris martin and in previous years like you know they had i forget her name but she was like the great great granddaughter of like henry ford i can't believe i've never heard of this oh my god you have to fall down the rabbit Hall. And this year, Angela Bassett's daughter was there. And they all have like escorts, like boyfriends or whatever, like, you know, esteemed. And her escort was her brother, which was really cute. She, they are the kids of Angela Bassett and Courtney Vance. But in terms of like royalty people, let me tell you who was there. First of all, the Carolina Lansing, who's the granddaughter of Carolina Herrera. She went, wore like a custom Carolina gown. She looked insane. She was my best dress. And they all wear these like insane crown jewels that like they borrow. Why does no one post about this really? Well, the corners of the internet that I lurk in are talking about it. Okay. Just say le ball de debutant into your phone a couple of times and TikTok will start serving you the algorithm. And then, by the way, past people who have come that you had heard of, Lily Collins, Phil Collins' daughter, Margaret Qualley, who is what's her mom's name? McDonald's something. Apple Martin. Oh, Ava Phillippe, Reese Witherspoon and Ryan Phillippe's daughter. Scout Willis, Bruce Willis and Demi Moore. So it's just all yeah, famous people's children. from America, but like the people who come from the other parts of the world are like true royalty. Like their great great grandparents were princes princesses this girl this year was like from Pakistan and her great great grandfather like invented Pakistan Like I don even know Like insane It such a fun rabbit hole to go down And just I know a lot of people were wondering, like, who my best dress was. It's Carolina Herrera, his granddaughter. I'm definitely going to look right after this. It is so fun. And, like, look at these girls. Like, you just know they live a life, like, you've never even experienced. Neither of us. Like, I wonder if, like, they get pitched to go or if they're, like, are they begging to go? or how they're getting invited from the US? That's a great question. I do wonder what the approval process is. I feel like you have to apply. It's probably their PR team. She would love to come. But these girls are also 16, 17, 18. Do they have publicists? Probably. And the girl who I think is the most interesting, her last name is Spencer Churchill, so she's a direct descendant of Lady Diana and Winston Churchill. And they're all just so pretty and thin. I don't, a life like this, Like, it's crazy to think that people actually, like, live and grow up like this. Like, wearing, like, crown jewels and going to malls. But it's real. Some of my family back in the UK did grow up like that. They did. And did they find it, like – oh, by the way, this is the Carolina Herrera dress. Oh, wow. Insane. Wow. It's this big polka dot frock. That's crazy. No, it's such a crazy thing. Like, look at this picture. What do you think they're talking about? Oh, I don't know. You know, they're definitely some of the most boring bitches ever. So boring. They haven't lived real life. Yeah. But they all get, like, escorted by, and all the men are, like, you know, dukes and, like, things, like, you don't even know. Love. Les beaux de debutants. Hi, it's Remy. I would love to be invited next year. I think you would make an amazing, and, like, Idina could be your escort. Yeah. I love that. Okay, next story. It's kind of, like, on the topic of body positivity, body shaming. Ariana Grande is, like, everyone's talking about Ariana Grande. and she's finally responding in like a very subtle small way she shared what did she respond she posted on her instagram like like an old interview where she addresses like people talking about her body and the whole theme was like you know don't talk about women's bodies don't make comments on people's bodies and so i think that was like her one and only rebuttal she issued a quote loving reminder that's what she said to her critics regarding judgment she's facing about her appearance resharing past statements about body shaming so she addressed the ongoing body shame comments by revisiting a message she shared amid the press tour for the first Wicked movie when this was coming up again. She said resharing all of this from last year as a loving reminder to all. So she knows. You know how I feel about this. How do you feel about it? I actually don't know. I know I do Again, she said, resharing all of this from last year as a loving reminder to all. Again, she said, resharing all of this from last year as a loving reminder to all. So she knows. You know how I feel about this. How do you feel about it? I actually don't know. No, I just, I am very anti-people commenting on people's bodies when they don't know what they're, like, dealing with. Whether you gain a lot of weight or lose a lot of weight. Like, it's just, like, screw you. Yeah. I agree. I do think that a lot of the comments are coming from, like, genuine shock and fear for Ariana. But not concern. Because people will make a full video and be like, I am concerned for her health. but you're making this video online you know like what is your point here because I think you just want people to listen just to like have a good video like yeah I think the people that know Ariana can be concerned for she clearly sees it I just I'm not on board for like based on my own experience of like people saying things you know it's like there's even though okay offer a rebuttal because I thought this um I've always thought this people compare like being told you're too fat and being told you're too skinny, like that it's the same thing. Right. Do you think that it is? No, I've had a lot with this because I do feel like my group of college friends too, like I always was the bigger one and they're all, and I remember having a conversation with one of my friends who's like super thin and she was like telling me about her struggles being skinny and like how she- Eat a cheeseburger. Right. But like there was certain things that I didn't know. So I definitely think from how I used to think, I think that was like, I don't know, probably three years ago I changed my mindset on it where I was just like, all right, we don't need your complaints, skinny girls. I do think that it goes both ways. You don't know what people are dealing with. Also from being someone that like, not to be all serious, but like I was in an eating disorder treatment center where it was mixed. So it was like bigger people and then people that had anorexia, bulimia, like all different sizes. And I just saw the struggles of a lot of people that like were struggling more than me and they were very thin. So do I think that it's the same like overall amount of issues. No, I think if you're, if you are fat, you deal with a lot more hatred and issues and health issues and things that like other people will never understand. Yeah, no, I agree. I feel conflicted about it because like we live in a world where like fat is bad and skinny is good. So being told you're too skinny is like, you're too good. And being told you're too fat is like, you're too bad. So there, it's not comfortable either way to get your body commented on, but I don't think that they're the same. I just don't. But maybe that's my lived experience. No, I don't think they're the same. And I feel like I've been seeing that a lot. People are talking about Ariana Grande and I fell down a rabbit hole on TikTok the other day of people talking about half harvest Do you know what I talking about I saw some of that too And I just am like I don know It just makes me like feel bad for people and be like they see it So now you see it By the way do you think that they do? Because I think a lot of like when you deal with a really severe eating disorder like anorexia is like you don't see it. I think, no, no, no. I'm not saying they see it. I'm saying they see the videos online. So like now leave them alone. Yeah, no, totally. I totally agree. I just think, I just think it's unfair and like they will figure that hope like they'll figure it out. I think a lot of these people, especially that are online, do I would hope have a support system in some way, whether that's family or friends or like their team or someone that like would say something. Because if it was my friend and I felt a certain way, like I am someone that would say something in terms of like not like, oh, you're gaining too much weight because like my friends didn't say that to me. I'm saying like in terms of something you were concerned with someone's actual health. I would say like, is everything okay? Like, I don't know, especially if I was seeing it online. Yeah. So I just think it's not like everyone else's concern, but like, this is how the internet is. Yeah. No. And you're like really compassionate. I feel. Yeah. Like, I feel like you're like, Remy, just be normal. No, no. I'm saying that in a really positive way. But I do think it's because you get more compassionate. No, I am a very empathetic person. Yeah. But I do think you, from just like my own experience, I always like to like think of someone else and like be in their shoes or them in my shoes. So like, no, totally. That's how I think. That's exactly what I'm saying. I feel like when I give my opinion on something, it's almost always like built on my own lived experience. And so like, I, I hear what other people are saying, but I'm like, no, but like, no, you're like that. Yeah. You're like, I wasn't happy in this body. I was miserable. So like, this is how I feel. And so I feel like you do a really good job of like taking into consideration like everybody's experiences. Yeah. It's tiring sometimes. Yes. I completely agree. Like I worry for you. You should. I'm always thinking I'm like, but it's a beautiful thing. 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Okay, but I do think you would really enjoy like the escapism of books. Maybe. Especially because this movie's coming out and everyone's going to be talking about it. Like, don't you want to be included? I'll think about it. Read the housemaid. Well, Amanda Seyfried's doing press and then she's like talking a lot about being a mom and like balance. She said, this is the most I've ever worked with two kids. I've never had two movies come out at the same time. So I'm a little bit bananas right now. And then it just reminded me like, okay, that's great. Awesome. Happy for you. Then it reminded me. Do you know what I'm about to say? No. I posted this on my Instagram yesterday and thankfully like everybody knew what I was talking about. But like, I think when a lot of people think of Amanda Seyfried, they think of Mean Girls. They think of Mamma Mia. What do you think of? Mamma Mia. Yeah. I think of the time that she like cyber bullied Ariel Charnas. Oh, I didn't know this happened. Why'd she do that? So random. Ready? Ariel Charnas was just like minding her own fucking business I think it was during the time when she was like having babies and she had commented she had posted a picture of herself in a bikini just being like I'm really proud of my body like my body's so beautiful like bouncing back after three babies like you know the beauty of woman and then like literally no one asked Amanda Seyfried either like commented or posted it on her own Instagram story being like well it's very easy to look this way when you're rich and have nannies and like literally came for Ariel Charnas, who was just like sharing something personal, not making a statement about women, about motherhood. I don't like that. And it was so weird. And as far as I know, like Ariel Charnas has never met Amanda Seyfried. They have no connection. Like it was just Amanda Seyfried, who's like kind of like in a David and Goliath situation. Like she's this big fancy star. Like what are you doing? And then also like if we're going to talk about it, like you're also rich and probably have nannies. So like what are you doing? I don't like that. I think that's the weirdest thing ever. What did Ariel say? She didn't say anything back then, did she? Because she's nice. And if she did, she was like, I'm sorry, I don't know. No, I feel bad. She was literally being bullied. I know. And it was at a time where I feel like she was getting a lot of hate She had like a couple of scandals where people have been so unfairly mean to her Yeah I don like that I think she a nice person I think she lovely And I think there like a lot of conspiracy theories about her But I actually I don know her I think she's just like a normal mom. Like I don't think anything about her. I do know her family because Brandon's out as my dentist. Oh, what a dentist. The whole family's dentist our whole life. So we like know, we do know the family. And like they're very lovely people. I know. And I just, I feel, I feel like protective of her weirdly. Yeah. And I just. No, she's shy. she has a lot of anxiety. She's talked about that so I understand the protective thing. So I don't under, like one of my favorite things to talk about is this Amanda Seyfried thing and ever since then, honestly, thank you for letting me know that because I don't think I like her anymore. No, I know. It's such an underratedly weird thing that she did and we all just moved on and I just want everyone to know I haven't. I'm still at the restaurant. I'm still thinking about this all the time. Every time I see a picture of Amanda Seyfried, it was a really weird thing for her to do. Well, I never had a passionate love for her anyways. It's fine. She's fine to me. I've always felt connected to her because of Mean Girls, which is a movie that made me the woman I am today. Right. And I don't think that would shock people. It is the best movie ever. It is the best movie ever. And I wrote about this in my book, how that genre of movie raised girls our age, right? Yeah. Mean Girls, Clueless, set in high school. Never seen Clueless. What? I know. It's really weird. Wait, that's actually insane. I haven't seen classic movies people have seen. Me neither. Like I've never seen like Saving Private Ryan, you know, or like what's the one that they just watched on Kardashians with Glenn Close? Fatal Attraction. Never seen. What other movies haven't you seen? That's insane. Like everything. Have you seen Twilight? Yes. Okay. Of course. Thank God. I'm not like I don't see all the Harry Potter movies. No, me neither. Actually, when I was pregnant, Ben is obsessed with Harry Potter. Definitely would be. I watched five of them. And like they're good. But like once you've seen one, you've seen them all. Yeah. What's your favorite movie? I'm not kidding. Like Mean Girls is on there. The Notebook is on there. Walk to Remember. and like Wolf of Wall Street. Oh, Walks to Remember is such a deep cut, very good one. Wait, I want to ask you something about The Notebook. So Jackie and I, I feel like we had a clip about this that went viral. We talk, not a lot, but we always talk about James Marsden in that movie and how like, Ali's kind of the villain in my opinion and like James Marsden was a good man, Savannah. Okay, wait, can you just tell me the name in the real life, like in the movie? Is that the other? The one that she's engaged to. Okay, okay. Who just like loved her and wanted to provide for her house and her parents loved him. and there was literally nothing wrong with him. And I'm a realist, I'm a romantic of course, but when you get married with someone, like yes it's beautiful and romantic, but you're also building a life together. This is a person you're gonna have kids with. Bridget is always saying choose your husband your life depends on it because it very well could And I don know i think she like noah great and all but oh i disagree i don care like i get in a hole like twice a year where like i get upset and cry because they're not together in real life i'm okay you're sick no because like they you do shit like this are you talking about ryan gosling ryan gosling and her like because they dated for a while yes of course i think have you ever seen noah and ally like no no no no like have you and also they do end up together the vmas yes yeah when they like run to like I watch it often yeah like when she runs into his arms and I'm like fuck why can't they be together that was a great time for women I agree so like I I'm like very passionate about them together like I literally like there's never a time I can watch it not like screaming sob with them older like I just think it's amazing who is your celebrity crush same one as it's always let me guess I don't know it's like a random I feel like I've said this since like the day maybe it'll sound familiar jonah hill what you didn't know this i feel like you could date jonah hill no i've tried you like he's not on instagram or anything but like i feel like i when he used to be i used to slide in um i've talked about it on like e like they've posted like celebrity crushings like he's probably like who is this freak do you know the story of ruthie wait i kind of know what you're talking see that's why i'm saying i think we have no no was maybe you and I was like a fan of yours and didn't even know you something about this girl that was a toaster that like she saw no she saw Jonah on the street and she slid in and he canceled the date well he was like DMing her he was like into it and she very earnestly like put a screenshot in our Facebook group at the time which was like you can't do that a toxic hotbed of mental illness and I regret ever creating it um but she came in a really it wasn't in a salacious way she really was like had never talked to a celebrity before and she came in real earnest and she was like you guys I'm freaking like what do I say I want like how you would send to your group chat like in a yes but that's not your group chat in a sisterly way and of course the mentally ill's on there screenshotted her screenshot sent it to Joda who like obviously spends a lot of time in his DMs and he blocked her oh my god but I understand like I if I ever am talking to anyone that is like cool, like has a following, whatever. Like I am very careful. Like I won't even screenshot and send that to friends. Like I'll be like, yes. Like, but I'm very careful because people are scary online. When you start dating someone, like let's say you got, you know, you met on an app. How do you like reach the conversation about your job Like Hey like I like a little famous Like so I have changed my whole hinge bumble like my accounts when I used to be on them and then met someone from an app, I would very much show that I was like an influencer, social media gal. I think that a lot of people are looking for that. I noticed out even the summer, like in, or whenever I'm out, I hear, I see everything. I'm like a very like aware person. So like, let's say there was like this guy that like wanted that wasn't really flirting with me and then I hear someone or see them be like she's blah blah blah and then they're interested oh so I'm just very careful with that um and I changed my all of my accounts to like make it like no you know red carpet photos or anything from get not like I would have a getty thing anyways but I'm just saying I don't say like my job is that and if someone were to ask me I'd be like oh I work in social media. That's like, I've been trying to figure this out because I need, if I'm really seriously going to date someone, sometimes I'm like, screw it. Let them know. I just want to like hook up with someone. Yeah, of course. Of course. But like, what are we going to use this fame for anyway? Right. But if I, if I'm getting serious and I like, I really need to see if they like me for me. Cause I really have seen more of the opposite where like, I notice a change in people once they figure out who I am or a friend tells them or something, they're like way more interested in it it sucks but I'm aware of it are you on Raya Raya has never let me on okay all the years same with Margo yeah I know I don't feel like it's really like a place to meet people it's just like cool to be on and like people say that but I know people that are getting married to people from Raya oh you do that's like Ella Rose like I don't know like I think Jordan Sloan like met him on Raya like it's a thing okay I think that everyone's I hate when people are like oh I deleted a deleted a specific app like or is this app good it takes one person it's true so just depends where that person's at. What, I met my ex on the locks club? That's like wild. Right. Is that even like in business anymore? I don't know. So like, I don't use it, but like, definitely not using that like now, but like, I, I, right now I would say I'm on like Bumble and Hinge. And like, I'm not, and people are like, which is better? I'm like, it just depends. Like, I just go on both, like see who's on, see what's happening, you know? And my favorite thing is when you do like a Q and A and people are like, would you ever have a podcast? And you share that you did have a podcast. With Connor Wood. TikTok. Right? It was called TikTok. Is that right? You're saying swok. T-O-K. Because it wasn't TikTok. We were only allowed to talk about like TikTok things. It was just not it. And it was owned or promoted by? iHeart Radio. Got it. So they just like hired you and Fabulous to do a podcast. You did three episodes and you guys both hated it. We did a full season. Oh, you did? We did like 15 episodes. I was pretty miserable doing it. Yeah. It was just not it. It was just not it. It was owned or promoted by. iHeart Radio. Got it. So they just like hired you and Fabulous to do a podcast. You did three episodes and you guys both hated it. We did a full season. Oh, you did? We did like 15 episodes. I was pretty miserable doing it. Yeah. And I was like, Connor, like one day I was like, I love you. And like, I don't like. Right. Do you think like maybe we shouldn't do this anymore? Is there a way we can like get out of it or whatever? And we did because I think he was on the same page, which thank God because I literally laughed my ass off at him and Lady Ephraim. Right. I think they're hilarious and like way better duo. Love, love, love Connor. He's like blowing the hell up and I'm so happy for him. But like our podcast was horrible. TikTok. TikTok. TikTok with Remy and Corner. That is. So would you ever do a podcast, Remylina? And what was it like going on Chloe's? Chloe. It was great, obviously. You know, I've always loved her. Yeah, she's such a fucking queen. I think it was like a little bit of a different scenario because I knew I was talking for the first time about something very serious. Were you so anxious? I was like. The night before, did you sleep? The night before? I haven't slept in a year. I don't know. I did not sleep for a year because I was thinking about for so long. The rollout. And also what a lot of people don't know is that there was so many other plans and ideas of things that were supposed to happen even like a year prior of like, oh, I'm going to film this. I filmed this. I made my dad film me in the hospital like vomiting. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the memory card didn't work anymore. I took it to – no, Claudia, like I cried for months. I took it to – I'm sorry for laughing. Like no. That's insane. There were so many weird things that happened that it kept just failing. But when the Khloe thing presented itself, it did feel right because I feel like we've always talked about body things. We have similar journeys in different ways. And it just felt right. I don't care what anyone says. I did feel right. You told me before I did it. I said you were like, I like this for you. Oh, my God. I don't think there – I know you had other plans that fell through and you were like upset about that. I don't think there could have been a better place for you to talk about it. And I know that you get so bogged down with what people say about you. And I just wanna let you know from a normal person who just like, no, a lot of the people who criticize you are chronically online and they're really not well. As a normal person, I just wanna let you know, I think everybody really loved it. Yeah, it was shocking. Yeah, maybe she could have done X, Y, or Z, but everybody is such a big talker right You fucking do it okay It like the man in the arena right Everybody is something to say you the one actually doing it And like talking about these deeply uncomfortable personal things So everybody can grab a fucking spoon quite frankly and eat your ass Like, cause you're the one doing it. You're the one living it. And like, I just really want you to be proud of that and like live more in that than the people being like, well, I said this on the toast. I'm like, fuck that. Who gives a fuck? No, no. I know. And I wish I could think that way more of the time, but like, I mean, yeah, that was, that was a hard thing. Cause I really felt like I did the right thing the best way I could have talking about. freaking uh the weight loss like almost dying after the surgery suicide things like it was pretty crazy to talk about on the podcast people said i got paid to do it didn't make a dime like just that's what i felt was right while hand in hand doing the um self magazine like written thing which was all factual and doctors were involved in that like i did the best i could and like we are we're here now well i think you did great i just wanted to tell you that and i enjoyed the episode with chloe a lot and i i don't know if there could have been like a better person for the job she's so she reminds me of you like she's very empathetic like she's such a good listener she's I know I know you're like because I used to be like this and now I'm into it like she's a cancer and I'm a Pisces and like and cancer and Pisces like no I know Claudia two years ago you brought up March yeah right if people brought up signs to me and be like you are so weird the only reason I'm into it is because I started seeing like every guy I've had a bad like situation with or something like situation ship or something like that is a Sagittarius or like and then I looked up I Googled one that you're like, and I'm like, who should a Pisces never be with? And first thing that comes up, Sagittarius. Like there was just things. And then like Chloe was like, my dad always told me because he was a Pisces that like a Cancer and a Pisces get along so well. We're both like deeply emotional and think about things and whatever. And it made me realize that like a lot of my best friends in my life are Cancers. I'm a Cancer. Okay. I believe it. What's bad? Aries. Do you know if that's compatible or you would never look? Remy. I'll look it up after. Don't insult me, please. So if anybody enjoyed this episode and they want to get a little bit more Remy, where should they follow you? They can follow me at Remy Bader on Instagram, TikTok, and Snapchat. I'm snapping a lot now. Okay, snap. She's so young. I just was on a Snapchat No it not young I was just on a Snapchat trip It was great Great people We went upstate to that place Auberg the wild farms Wild hours wild farms Wait I just would like to show my fan Oh, yes, please. She's got product to promote and I would never get in the way of a woman in business. So I actually have a couple of fans by Remy and they clip on great to a stroller. I know that's not the point, but. I want to make like a stroller specific one because of you. Wait, do I like? Yeah, your camera's right there. Okay, so this is a new one. Oh, there. Hi. hey, this is a new one coming out that's only going to be on TikTok shop. I think it's coming out this week. So smart. It took me like freaking like a year and a half to get approved on TikTok shop. It's like crazy. But this is like a burgundy wine colored one for the season. I love that you're like making it. Ah, like tech accessories for fashion girlies. Yep. If you're looking it up on Amazon, it's Fangirl by Remy. This will be on TikTok shop soon. And then there's an international one where you can get on Revolve that's pink. Okay, international. Ah. Oh, and it's a ring light as well. It's not just a fan. It's a ring light, yeah, and a fan. But I was like, look, there we go. Look at the fan. Pargy yeah Remy thank you so much for your time thank you so much for your honesty and your vulnerability I had no choice listen listen if I'm gonna be honest with anyone it's you yeah and you didn't think you were gonna come here and like you know I almost meant to say like let's whatever and then I was just like screw it well you know I was expecting you to be like can we not talk about XYZ I meant to and I forgot my team's gonna kill me you know what let's go Remy she's being honest she's being open cause like you're my friend I would respect any boundary you gave me but you didn't give me any yeah I'm gonna get in trouble no by the way I want to let you know nothing you said here like the listeners of this show are no I'm kidding I feel I feel I feel but the listeners of the show are extremely sound of mind like they really do give people a chance which is why I love our audience like I think it's very easy to get caught up in like a tiktok hate whatever you're just like a follower no the listeners of this show like they sit down for an hour and they're gonna give you the time of day and I'm telling you and your clue was like very funny hysterical did you go to Coachella this year did I go yeah no but this is I haven't gone for like three years I'm gonna go this year So I wanted to see if you had done, because you know how different it will be. I've been to Coachella Fat and I've been to Coachella Skinny and they're two completely different experiences. Because nobody talks about how hard Coachella is on your body. It was the hardest thing on my body the heat the everything Like it was just insane I just had a horrible experience watching the video It insane No of course Claudia used it as an interest in me I going to post it today when I post this Oh good Just so people can go back And you are going to I so excited for you to go because I actually think you have fun Well, it's Bieber. Oh, that's why you're going. That's, like, why I'm going. But also because I want the fan everywhere. Yeah, of course. She's a businesswoman, you guys. I'm a businesswoman. This was all over, like, Revolve this last year. But I want all over Coachella. Like, that's the goal. Okay. I want to be there and I want to see Justin Bieber and I want to like really enjoy myself. So like we are doing the return of Coachella this year. Who's like your number one? Like I'm a Taylor Swift. I know you're not like a huge 50. Who's like your number one? Justin Bieber? Justin Bieber. Like I used, I was like a freak. Bebe's best friend was my Twitter account. Like I was like a freak. Like I did meetups with like people. I went alone to his concert. Did you know Margo's friend Emily? Because she was one of those too. Maybe she was probably like in my circle. She had like a famous Twitter fan account. We did Skype like things. Yeah. We did weird stuff. Like I had a crew. The young Beliebers who grew up to become normal women are some of the craziest people you'll ever meet. That's me. So that's you. Okay. What's your favorite song on Swag? Ooh, that's hard. I would say, what was I listening to this morning? I'm always back. What's the song? I never know names of people's songs. I just play them. I'm not a Belieber. I have no idea. You just don't care. But I know, just take your time, honey. I get it, I get it, I get it. That's a good song. Thank you so much, Remy, for being here. And thank you guys for listening to the Trust and Lenny Morning Show. We deliver the best life stories to you. So everybody, if you find it on YouTube, if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us a video. Thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcasts can be found. So that's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Video, iO, or CastBox. All the places where you can listen to podcasts. Find us at Trust TV. Find us on our YouTube. We have a beautiful setting and wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have an amazing day. We'll see you tomorrow. Bye. Love ya. Bye. The holidays mean more travel, more shopping, more time online, and more personal info and more places that could expose you more to identity theft. But LifeLock monitors millions of data points per second. If your identity is stolen, our U.S.-based restoration specialists will fix it, guaranteed, or your money back. 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