--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome to Today Explained. I'm here with Peter Kafka, host of the Recode Media podcast.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me on the show.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's dive right in. Disney CEO Bob Iger says the company is looking for a "strategic partner" to invest in ESPN. What does that mean?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, Bob Iger has been saying that Disney wants to find a partner to help ESPN, which has been struggling in an era of cord-cutting. But the thing is, Iger's not saying they want to sell ESPN outright. He wants to find someone to buy or invest in a portion of ESPN.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, it's not a straightforward sale. It's more like a partnership.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's what makes this so interesting. Because if you look at the media landscape, sports is a huge business. And ESPN is the biggest player in that business. So, if Disney is looking for a partner, it's not just about finding someone to invest in ESPN. It's about finding someone who can help them navigate this changing media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem. Because if you look at the way people are consuming sports, it's changing. They're not just watching games on TV anymore. They're watching them on streaming services, on social media, on their phones.
--:-- Peter Kafka: That's right. And that's why the sports leagues are so powerful right now. Because they're the ones who control the rights to these games. And they're using that power to extract more and more money from the TV networks.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the money. It's about the reach. Because if you look at the way people are consuming sports, it's not just about watching games on TV. It's about being part of a community. And that's what the sports leagues are offering.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why the sports leagues are so valuable. Because they're not just selling games. They're selling a experience.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what does this mean for fans? Are they going to have to pay more for sports?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, that's the thing. The sports leagues are already raising the prices they're charging the TV networks. And that's going to get passed on to the fans. So, yes, fans are going to have to pay more for sports.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the price. It's about the experience. Because if you look at the way people are consuming sports, it's not just about watching games on TV. It's about being part of a community.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why the sports leagues are so powerful. Because they're not just selling games. They're selling a experience.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what's the future of sports media look like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms. And that's going to make it harder for fans to follow their favorite teams.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks. Because they're going to have to adapt to this new landscape.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio. But at the same time, I think he's also trying to position Disney for the future. Because the media landscape is changing, and Disney needs to adapt.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
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--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the history of ESPN. Because it's a fascinating story.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, ESPN has come a long way since its early days.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the culture.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why ESPN is such a big deal. Because it's not just a sports network. It's a cultural institution.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's take a step back and look at the history of ESPN.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, let's do that.
--:-- [Discussion continues...]
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--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
--:-- [Support for Today Explained comes from The Guardian. Our coverage has something unique, fierce independence.]
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
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--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
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--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
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--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
--:-- [Support for Today Explained comes from The Guardian. Our coverage has something unique, fierce independence.]
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
--:-- [Support for Today Explained comes from Sierra.ai. AI agents are getting pretty impressive.]
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
--:-- [Support for Today Explained comes from Verizon. Get the new iPhone 17 Pro, designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever.]
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
--:-- [Support for Today Explained comes from Chime. Nobody likes fees and complicated banking, says Chime.]
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
--:-- [Support for Today Explained comes from The Guardian. Our coverage has something unique, fierce independence.]
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
--:-- [Support for Today Explained comes from Sierra.ai. AI agents are getting pretty impressive.]
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
--:-- [Support for Today Explained comes from Verizon. Get the new iPhone 17 Pro, designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever.]
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
--:-- [Support for Today Explained comes from Chime. Nobody likes fees and complicated banking, says Chime.]
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
--:-- [Support for Today Explained comes from The Guardian. Our coverage has something unique, fierce independence.]
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: And thanks to our listeners for tuning in. If you want to learn more about the future of sports media, check out our show notes for links to more information.
--:-- [Support for Today Explained comes from Sierra.ai. AI agents are getting pretty impressive.]
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Welcome back to Today Explained. We're still here with Peter Kafka.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Thanks for having me back.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, let's talk about the future of sports media. Because it's a big deal.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Yeah, it's a big deal. And it's not just about the sports. It's about the business.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think the future of sports media looks like?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think it's going to be a lot more fragmented. Because the sports leagues are going to be selling their rights to multiple platforms.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about the sports leagues. It's about the TV networks.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire sports media ecosystem.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: So, what do you think Bob Iger is trying to do here?
--:-- Peter Kafka: Well, I think Bob Iger is trying to find a way to save ESPN. Because it's a huge business, and it's a big part of Disney's portfolio.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: That's right. And it's not just about ESPN. It's about the entire Disney media empire.
--:-- Peter Kafka: Exactly. And that's why this is such a big deal. Because it's not just about one company. It's about the entire media landscape.
--:-- Sean Rameswaram: Well, thanks for joining me on the show, Peter.
