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--:-- Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of *Good Hang*. We are very excited about our guest today. It is Selena Gomez, the multi-talented, incredible businesswoman and comedian and singer who is just a total delight. We're going to talk about a lot of fun things today. We're going to talk about her incredible business and her success as the founder of Rare Beauty. We're going to talk about *Only Murders in the Building* and working with legends and being one herself. We're going to talk about Tejano music, her favorite kind and music that she listened to growing up. And we're going to get to know her grandmother's favorite recipe. All of that and more in this episode.
--:-- But, you know, we always have guests tell us about our guests. We always talk well behind our guests' back and have someone special to talk about them. And today we have, well, one of my comedy legends, a person who came on an early episode of this show and who a lot of people don't know has totaled my car three times. Martin Short.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Marty?
--:-- Martin Short: Hi, baby. Thank you for coming back. I was just saying—
--:-- Amy Poehler: Hey, by the way, I loved our show.
--:-- Martin Short: Me too. It was such a hit. That was so... Nothing was funnier than when you called me a motherfucker. Where are you?
--:-- Amy Poehler: I'm in Toronto.
--:-- Martin Short: Oh, fantastic. You know, I think I told you I went to Canada a lot in the summers, and it was always cold, but is it warm there right now?
--:-- Martin Short: You know, it got insanely hot because we're spiraling toward the sun. And it got very hot and very humid. No, the late got to be 81. I know you don't believe it.
--:-- Amy Poehler: That's good. And I know you'd still call that a cold plunge, but not for Canadians. Have you cold plunged since we talked?
--:-- Martin Short: No, ma'am.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, well, I can tell.
--:-- Martin Short: You can tell by the skin?
--:-- Amy Poehler: I can tell by your disposition. Very fiery.
--:-- Martin Short: You know what? By the way, fuck off. Okay, we're gonna talk to Selena today who I don't think I've ever really met and she's absolutely lovely. I know. And I want to tell her, you know, this part of the show is like talking well behind somebody's back.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Who are you talking to, brother? You like you're talking—
--:-- Martin Short: I'm talking just me.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah, you're the person I'm talking to. Do you think this is just me calling you? Let me know when we're recording, because if we're recording, we're recording right now.
--:-- Martin Short: What? Okay. I'm glad I'm talking to you about Selena because I remember when we were together, I said, "Oh, what's it like working with her?" and you were like, "She's great." You said she's just a doll. And I remember thinking, "Oh, it's so good to hear," because that's the vibe I got from her and wanted it so much to be true. But I do feel like you can tell a lot about somebody by how they work.
--:-- Martin Short: I mean, the thing is about Selena is that she is just an old pro. I had never met her the first day we shot. We had Zoomed because of COVID. You know, you just have to Zoom all the time. And as I'm driving there, I'm thinking, "What is Selena Gomez going to be like? What if she's a nightmare? What if she's mean to people? What if she's kind of rude?" I knew if she was late 40 minutes late every day, Steve would say, "Very good one season. I don't care how big a success, I'm not doing it."
--:-- So right away, I met her in the makeup room and she smiled at me and went, "Oh." And I went, "Ah, we're fine." And she's just a doll. We've really, really become very, very close. I just adore her. I'm so happy that she's getting married to this fabulous guy, Benny Blanco, who's just one of the great, cool guys and funny and loose, and she adores him. I don't know, I'm just thrilled for her happiness, and I'm thrilled to get to work with her.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Well, you know, I bet I know that she gets asked a lot what it's like, what she's learned from working with you and Steve, but what have you learned from working with her?
--:-- Martin Short: I knew everything.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah, it looks like nothing. It looks like you've stopped learning.
--:-- Martin Short: I learned you can order an egg with caviar on it and not be ashamed. That's my day. Caviar egg.
--:-- Amy Poehler: You never gave yourself permission to do that before.
--:-- Martin Short: I didn't, and I don't know what I was waiting for. First of all, I don't like caviar. But secondly, it was... I'm me. And, you know, that's a new book. *I'm Me, Colin. I Deserve This.* The actual working title is *I Is Me*. I did a special once called *I, Martin Short, Goes Hollywood*. A little bit of bad grammar is the funniest thing in the world.
--:-- Amy Poehler: So funny. Now, do you have to have extra security because you work with Selena? Like on set and stuff? Because you guys shoot in New York a lot, which is not fun.
--:-- Martin Short: Yeah, yeah. She has a security person. We have a security person. But what's amazing is if we shoot on the street, which is not often but certainly happens a lot... That doesn't make any sense. "Not often but happens a lot." Anyway, you know, Steve and I are working and doing a scene. There might be nine guys there kind of disinterested for about 40 minutes and then they walk away. And you never, ever see those pictures. When Selena joins us, there's about 120 paparazzi, and they're there all day. And I'm sure they're just waiting for her to fall or stumble or be mean, you know, that would, therefore, they could make more money from it. So that's been her life. I don't think... And she does have security on the streets, we all do, but she is so lovely with them and they've been in her life for so long. And the only time I ever saw her get a little stern is when they were a little abrupt to a 14-year-old fan of hers. And she never did that.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. You really can't fault her.
--:-- Martin Short: You can't. There's no way to.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And the other thing I do want to talk to her about today is, I mean, she's the founder of a hugely successful business. And, you know, just because we've all grown up with her, I think people think she's younger than she is. I mean, she's a 33-year-old woman running a billion-dollar business.
--:-- Martin Short: We once compared each other's net worth, and I told her what my net worth was, and she went, "Oh, that's so cute. That's just adorable."
--:-- Amy Poehler: You guys both wrote it on a piece of paper and just slipped it to each other?
--:-- Martin Short: I went like this. [gestures] Wow. And she went like this. [gestures] You know what? It's amazing. I've never seen her... I mean, she has literally, I don't know, 490 million Instagram followers. I've never seen her overrun by it all, collapsing from the pressure of it all. And so a question for her might be, is it ever overwhelming and too much?
--:-- I also think another thing to ask her about is her music. You know, she's this massively successful singer-songwriter, but I don't think I ever asked her in detail enough her real early influences, and what was the first song that she fell in love with?
--:-- Amy Poehler: I love that. On set, is there singing? When Jane Lynch was on, there's always singing.
--:-- Martin Short: Steve sometimes will bring his banjo. You know what I say about the banjo? Banjo makes people who play the jug say, "Really?" But anyway, no, there's not a lot of singing. There's a lot of gossip. It doesn't have to be true.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah, just make it up. You know what I heard? Okay, I'm going to ask her about her early musical influences. That's a good question, I think. And I do want to talk to her about her successful business because I do think that, not to get too heavy, Marty, but in our patriarchal society, I think we totally... we don't treat female-run businesses, especially by young women, especially in the beauty space, as a serious business, and it is crushing everything else.
--:-- Martin Short: Let me tell you something. When I look at not only what Selena's done, but what you've done and what Tina's done, I find myself very proud of you ladies.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Well, that seems weird and patronizing. Proud of us.
--:-- Martin Short: I am proud because...
--:-- Amy Poehler: Why, what are you, my dad?
--:-- Martin Short: No, I just feel like, you know, because you could just be saying, "You want cream in that coffee?" but you're not. This doesn't feel good.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I'm trying to be as kind as a condescending guy can be.
--:-- Martin Short: I love you so much. Thank you. I remember God, but I will repeat it when we're off.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, it's from the SNL 50th. Oh, God, I can't wait. My phone is standing by. Actually, you have my cell.
--:-- Martin Short: Yeah, you have mine. It's what? Call you?
--:-- Amy Poehler: I don't like to talk on the phone. Can you just text it to me?
--:-- Martin Short: No, no, no. It's too long.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, my God. What is wrong with the phone?
--:-- Martin Short: I don't like talking on the phone. A phone call feels... what we're not going to. This isn't going to be the length of show up. It was a brief little story to me. A phone call is bad news. Like, why am I on the phone?
--:-- Amy Poehler: No, no, no, no. But is this, and I, again, oh my God, I so don't mean this condescendingly, but is your thing about the phone because you really don't like it or because you read Cher doesn't like the phone?
--:-- Martin Short: Well, you know that I try to not like anything that Cher doesn't like. I know. You know how I do.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I know. I would, you know what, just snap me. Just Snapchat me.
--:-- Martin Short: Okay, I'm not... you know what, this is too boring. I'm not giving you this information. I can't.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Shit, okay, I'm calling you right now. I'm calling you right now. Okay, hanging up so I can get this. Bye. Love you, Marty, bye.
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--:-- Selena Gomez is here. I kind of wanted to start today by saying, I feel like so many people talk to you about the past. They want to talk to you about things that happened, but I want to stay in the present.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And talk about the future.
--:-- Selena Gomez: I know.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Because your present is pretty amazing right now.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Thank you so much.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Congratulations on the past couple of years.
--:-- Selena Gomez: I appreciate it. Yeah, it's been wonderful. I didn't want people... I genuinely appreciate you saying that because people are going to think I'm permanently anhedonic, just not enjoying anything in life.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Wait, what's that word? Anhedonic, meaning unable to enjoy things.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Wow. And I really wanted... I really love this era.
--:-- Selena Gomez: If you will. The past five years have been wonderful.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Super creative for you.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah. It's just been a gift that keeps giving, from *Only Murders* to Rare. All of it's just... I have to pinch myself sometimes.
--:-- Amy Poehler: We have a lot to talk about because you're running, you know, you founded, created, and you're running a billion-dollar business, a two billion-dollar business. You have a huge hit show on the air. You have the love of your life. The past couple of years have felt like they've been this big, joyous explosion of things. And I always like to ask people, if this was, if your life is a book, what is the title of this chapter?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, gosh.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Can I pitch you some ideas?
--:-- Amy Poehler: I would say something really simple but poetic, like "The Best Part Yet" or "The Best is Yet to Come."
--:-- Selena Gomez: The best is yet to come. Or "The Best is Here, Babe."
--:-- Selena Gomez: Or "What is the Best?" Let me tell you. "33 and Feeling Free" or whatever.
--:-- Amy Poehler: But I want to speak to you as a person talking to a deeply successful entrepreneur. I mean, you are the founder of a gigantic, successful business that, in my opinion, does a lot of things, gets a lot of things very right. When you were a young person, what was your relationship to makeup and beauty? Did you have a house where people were doing that?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah, it's actually interesting because my Nana was all about self-care, as far as taking good care of your skin. But my mom was a makeup artist. So yes. And she worked at MAC. So she had, like, she's at the counter. And I loved it. I think she would give me all of her products that she was done with and she would do them for photo shoots in Dallas, Texas for little things. And it was really cool. So yeah, I remember playing with it a lot. I wasn't allowed to wear it out. And I'm glad, considering the pictures I see now. I would just stick on all the colors and it was really fun for me to play with.
--:-- And now my sister is going to be 13.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I know. It's so weird.
--:-- Selena Gomez: But she's awesome. 12 to 13 is an interesting bridge.
--:-- Selena Gomez: It's so weird. Even her getting her nails done sometimes freaks me out.
--:-- Selena Gomez: And also I noticed that at 12, you still kind of dance around and be goofy. And sometimes something happens with boys and girls. It's non-gendered, where you just start to be conscious of being self-conscious.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I know.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Well, that's what I was going to say. My 12 versus her 12 is a vast difference. It makes me worried and also encouraged because I have trust in my sister and she's a very sweet girl. She's very goofy still. So I try to pull that out of her.
--:-- Amy Poehler: It's like you want to keep the goofiness going for as long as possible. And that also just is at any age, basically, no matter the person. You want to... it's the secret to life, but it's so hard to learn, which is if you can just have fun without worrying about what other people think of you. That's the power, but it takes so long to learn.
--:-- Selena Gomez: It's true. But she's been like... you know, when you were Joy, it was actually, I really wanted to ask you about that movie because I watched it with my sister and I completely sobbed.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Because it is so factual. I almost feel like it should have been a requirement in school to watch that as a homework assignment because I'm so fascinated with the human mind and it would break my heart. And my sister watched it and she started crying. And it was just that.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. You know, I think what for people listening, I think you're referring to *Inside Out*.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And in the second one, are you talking about *Inside Out 2*?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah, there's that kind of heartbreak that happens when anxiety moves in.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And suddenly the emotion of anxiety moves in. And I have to say, same. No matter the age, you're either feeling it in real time as a young person, you're remembering that feeling as a person in your 30s and 40s or 50s or above. You're just remembering that moment when your paint set got some darker colors in it.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Definitely.
--:-- Amy Poehler: It's part of growing up, but it's brutal.
--:-- Selena Gomez: It is. I just... but you, I mean, how is everyone a part of that movie, if you haven't seen it?
--:-- Amy Poehler: I know, they're geniuses. I just think it's incredible, and congratulations.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Thanks, Selena.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I'm going to make my children watch it.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, my God, your children!
--:-- Amy Poehler: I know.
--:-- Selena Gomez: I want to be... I want to see our little babies.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I know, I know. I know they don't exist yet, but I can't wait. They don't.
--:-- I also want to talk to you about a typical day of you running your business because you have basically three to four full-time jobs.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And one would be enough. And you have a lot of full-time jobs. And the great Martin Short, I spoke to him earlier today because we like to talk well behind our guests' back. And he's so in love with you. And he was just saying, "I never see Selena overwhelmed. Like she doesn't do that thing, which is like, 'Oh, I can't handle today.'" Even though she's got a million things that she's dealing with at once. What's a typical day like for you?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Well, I love him so much. That isn't always true, though. I think it's... well, you know, it's about, of course, typical answer: balance. But when I am doing *Only Murders*, it can be 12 to 14 hour days and it's five days a week. And I have my entire love and attention focused on that. So when I do get to work on anything film or TV related, I kind of have to have all of my focus there.
--:-- Selena Gomez: That does not mean that I am not answering emails. Well, texts. I don't like email.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, my God. Martin. Marty.
--:-- Selena Gomez: I know. I wanted to talk on the phone. I was like, "Are you not...?" I've turned into Steve and Marty. We'll get there. But I've turned into both of them somehow.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And you're talking on the... sending faxes?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yes. And I don't... using a file of faxes? Yeah. I just, I'm always, if I have an idea or I smell something or I feel something, I'm super close with Joyce, who basically is my product go-to guru. If I want to create something out of thin air, she a thousand percent will go there and it could be a complete failure. So you can be like, "I touched this lemon today. How cool would it be to have a lemon... do we have a lemon scrub in the line that's interesting or whatever?" Yeah, I definitely will come up with things.
--:-- Amy Poehler: What have you come up with that you're like, "That was good"?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Well, when we first started the company, I'd say the blushes were the liquid blushes have been my pride and joy because that was one of the most important moments for Rare. And I think the texture and the way we'd play with it and all the colors, all of it feels like you're a chemist in a way and you can just feel it and smell it even. And I was able to go to Italy where we did most of our products. And it's wild, you know. It's just a whole process. You have tons of different people using the stuff that you make.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I was really impressed, and I didn't know this, that you have easily accessible products. They're easy to open.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Why was that important to you? And what do you have to do to make that happen?
--:-- Selena Gomez: So I have a few medical things, but I have arthritis in my fingers and that's due to my lupus. So I remember before the brand, I was trying to open a water bottle and it hurt really bad before I was on the right medication. And we somehow inherently made the products easy to open. And then we realized, "Wait, they kind of have to be that way." And then we started to make every product with the intention of anybody who has dexterity problems. And I know that might seem like a little thing, but it's really not, because it's actually so helpful for anyone at any age to be able to use the products. And that's why we want to make them easy and accessible because it's important to me and it always has been. So even down to our fragrance, the pump is very easy for me to use.
--:-- Amy Poehler: It speaks to the bigger thing, which is I've just been very, always very moved and impressed by the way that you allow your own challenges, health challenges to inform your story and your product because it really makes people feel very seen.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Definitely. And I think there's so much stigma behind so many different illnesses. I don't know. I've been through it. So I think I just know how it feels. And I really want everyone to feel as good as I do now.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Do we have the scent here?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
--:-- Amy Poehler: May I?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yes, please.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Look, so this is my fake food wall. I really, really love this. We have some of this at our home.
--:-- Selena Gomez: You do?
--:-- Selena Gomez: What kind of stuff do you have? Do you recognize?
--:-- Amy Poehler: Okay, already I'm loving this for a couple reasons. Well, okay. Basically, we have orange peels that look so real and they're all over the house that people keep mistaking them as trash.
--:-- Selena Gomez: And they're fake orange peels?
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. It's art.
--:-- Selena Gomez: It's art. I love it. Might be my fiancé's choice. Benny's like, "Babe, we've got to get these orange peels." But it's like they're the deal. And you're like, "Okay, I'm afraid people are going to throw them away."
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah, multiple people have tried. But yeah, so can I show you?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yes, please.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Basically, to lock it, it's just that little simple turn to unlock it.
--:-- Selena Gomez: And what are you calling this fragrance?
--:-- Amy Poehler: This is called Rare Eau de Parfum. I learned that. But I just say it's my rare perfume. So you can do it with your hands. You can do it however you feel like if you want to.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, I was going to spray it right in my eyes. I can smell it right now. So I know. I just realized I overdid it.
--:-- Selena Gomez: No, no, let me smell. Let me take it in. It will definitely...
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, yeah. It smells nice.
--:-- Selena Gomez: It'll settle.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I honestly can taste it. I'm sorry how many times I sprayed it. I'm like, it's in my mouth. It smells...
--:-- Selena Gomez: You know the very funny bit, which is like, in the 80s, you would spray your cologne and then you'd walk through it.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, it's the gentle. Yes.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yes. And I think that's what I should have done.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Okay. This smells really good. Everybody here... we're waiting for it to calm down. Everybody likes to smell in here. It'll be here for a minute. And then we light it on fire.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah.
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--:-- So I got to talk to Marty Short.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And he was so nice. He came on this podcast. He was like my first guest, him and Tina. And him and Steve, you know, are heroes of mine and I'm sure of yours too. And I grew up loving them. But I also have the pleasure and privilege to know that they're really wonderful to work with. And when you guys all started working together, and of course the show is a big giant hit, and I said, "You know, what's it like working with Selena? She seems great, but you never know." And every report back has been, and always has been, like, "You're such a pro."
--:-- Selena Gomez: My papa used to say, "If you are on time, you're already late." So that means I get to places 30 minutes before, or I've had my team has had to trick me because I show up so early. But I like to be prepared and to say hi and not be rushed. The feeling of being rushed is very stressful. But then on top of it, I start working with Steve and Marty and they really spearhead the whole... they started the pyramid and everything happens. And they just are so professional. They make everyone feel good. They lighten up any room, even if it's a serious scene. And that's a huge inspiration to me. And they've been working for so long. And if I'm tired and they're not sometimes, I'm like, "Whoa, okay, I can do this." They've really... I've been very lucky to work with people who are punctual. And I just like it because I want everyone to work and have an enjoyable experience.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I don't think people realize in our industry, like most jobs, you get in trouble if you're late or you get fired. But in our industry, in the music industry, in the acting and television and film, people sometimes just don't come on time. And it's a really weird thing because in almost every other industry, you can't get away with that.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah, I wonder why.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I have theories. I think sometimes genuinely, like the magnanimous theory is that real artists are often in their own kind of creative space and time management maybe isn't their biggest skill.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah.
--:-- Amy Poehler: That's a generous way to think about it. And then the less generous way is I think, to your point about anxiety, for some people, there's just a struggle to figure out the power dynamics. And one way to get power is to make people wait.
--:-- Selena Gomez: It's my worst nightmare. I honestly would start crying only because it stresses me out. It's so stressful. It's also... I don't want to hurt... I guess it wouldn't be hurting people's feelings because they don't probably care about me that way. But I think it's disrespectful. Not to say everyone lives their life the way they want to. But for me, I would feel like a puppy dog with my tail in between my legs the whole day at work if I made the crew wait even 30 minutes. I'd be like, "I know." We all make mistakes, we're humans. But the few times that I've overslept, I cannot tolerate the feeling of knowing people are waiting.
--:-- Amy Poehler: That's so nice to know that there's more people like that. Are you an early to airport person?
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, what?
--:-- Selena Gomez: I don't push it. But I do... I don't like being... This is interesting. In an airport because it is, as you can tell, I'm a very anxious person in a way, but I don't know. It gets me overstimulated.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Thank you.
--:-- Selena Gomez: You want to kind of keep walking right onto the plane. I want to just get there and then get in my little blanket.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I'm the opposite. I like to get there with plenty of time. Go look at the gate.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Go look at the gate.
--:-- Amy Poehler: You have to see.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah, I have to see the gate. That's true. Make sure it's there. Look at the plane. Look at the gate.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. Very airport dad. Love that. Go up to the person and be like, "Looks like we're taking off on time." I like to kick the tires a little bit. I love that. And have plenty of time to just be a little hypervigilant. But I understand. The airport is a nightmare. It's just overstimulating.
--:-- Selena Gomez: But I will say, if I'm at the Dallas airport, I like to take my time.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, why? What's at the Dallas airport?
--:-- Selena Gomez: First off, it's my home. Second, it's just... I mean, Whataburger. They have the best restaurants. It doesn't even feel like you're at an airport. It's like you could get lost there. I just want to spend time there.
--:-- Amy Poehler: It's a very push and pull thing because it could be overstimulating. Sometimes I like to try to get my steps in.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, that's clever.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I'm not always thinking too much about my steps, but if I can get them in, the airport is a great place to get them in. Now have you seen the people who ride their suitcases?
--:-- Selena Gomez: You can do that?
--:-- Amy Poehler: There are automatic ones.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, I've seen adults. I've actually seen it. I do believe you can find it on TikTok or something. Riding the suitcases.
--:-- Amy Poehler: It is grown.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I get it for the kids, but it's a little hilarious. And I don't mean to be unfair, but if a man was riding his suitcase, that's a hell no.
--:-- Selena Gomez: And you're kind.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah, that's so true. Or anyone who brings their own pillow. That's very stressful to me. Adults with their own pillow. Again, if you need your pillow for support, I understand. But if you don't...
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, I could have it.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Okay. So back to Marty. So Marty, first of all, what I find so interesting, I mean, you have been, this is a really deeply comedic role on a show with deeply comedic people. And it keeps getting recognized by your peers and lauded by critics and people can't wait for season five, which is coming out this week. But you have been funny for a very long time.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, God, thank you. That's a huge problem.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And you were very funny on *Wizards*.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Thank you. I'm like, what? How have you seen it?
--:-- Amy Poehler: But you've had the chops for a long time. You've had your timing, which is such a big— Wow, I can't even get this sentence out. This is how bad my timing is. But it's true. Your timing has always been impeccable.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Thank you. It's because I grew up and should have probably been more outside, but I grew up watching *Will and Grace*, *Friends*, of course. Channel 33 would be *Frasier* after.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Who did you love? Who are your comedic heroes growing up?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, well, I mean, that's different because I feel like when I have watched— because I didn't watch stand-up. It was actually introduced to me when I was probably like 18, just because I was this Texas pumpkin that just didn't really know. And I think the first one I ever watched was, I believe it was— see, I'm terrible. Oh, Allie Wong when she was pregnant.
--:-- Amy Poehler: No way. That was your first stand-up special?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah. And I just completely lost it. So now it's almost like a morning thing where Benny will show me some of his favorite comedians. And I have a whole appreciation. And obviously for Steve and Marty, knowing their history and their stories, it's pretty inspiring. I don't know how, other than just I watched a lot of TV and I thought about the timing. But I will say *Wizards* was so fun because I had the room to mess up and it's okay if it really failed and was cheesy because it was Disney, so it was fun.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. Now, this was a bit scarier.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah, I would be intimidated to do a TV show with them, I have to say. They're really deeply funny, and they're really good joke writers. They're very good. And their material— they're always searching for the better joke. It is. And they won't rest until they get it.
--:-- Amy Poehler: It's true. Trust me. I will be right in the middle of them figuring it out, and I'm like, "It's funny, guys. It's funny. Guys, we got it."
--:-- Selena Gomez: I know. I mean, still, when I work with them or people that are kind of trained in that world, it's still amazing to me how you'll think everything is really ready to go and people— the best comedians will just keep going. But do you think up until the very last minute?
--:-- Amy Poehler: That is something that I love, though, because it's so fun.
--:-- Selena Gomez: I must have heard their bits a hundred times that I could finish them. So I just try to at a group hang, I'm just listening and I'm laughing again and doing the whole thing. And it's the 20th time I've heard them. But it's actually so sweet because they've been best friends for like 35 years. Their relationship is really awesome. It's so cute. I love it. And having truly looked up to both of them when I was growing up, I can't believe that I know them. Like, I actually can't believe that they're friends of mine.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. Who is someone that you can't believe you're friends with?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Honestly, them and Meryl.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yes. I can't even imagine. My life is really weird sometimes because we have gotten incredibly lucky with people who love to just come and join our show. We want to create a space where people can have fun. So that's genuinely— I believe and hope that is the reason people like to come on the show, because we just have fun and you can be a quirky character or be whatever you want.
--:-- Selena Gomez: So I feel like I lost track of what I was—
--:-- Amy Poehler: Well, I was saying, who can you believe you're friends with?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh. And Meryl. I mean, yes. But everyone. Dave Vine. I love Michael Creighton. I love—
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. You've had such—
--:-- Selena Gomez: Richard Kind. I'm sorry. Bing Bong. He's one of my favorites.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Bing Bong. I know. I'm too obsessed with your movie. Every time I see Richard Kind and I've gotten a chance to see him recently, I have this reaction because of his voice. Because we never recorded together. But in *Inside Out*, he played Bing Bong, an amazing character. And Richard is such a big personality. He's so great. But it's filled with a ton of pathos. Like you really feel big feelings.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Definitely. Richard just makes me laugh. He doesn't even try. He's just— one time he had to walk down a hall and open a door and he just walked all the way down. And we watched him walk past the door that he was supposed to open to go to the next door and knock. And then the other person answered from the other door and looked down the hall. And he goes, "Oh, well, I didn't know that." And I was like, "Yes, you did. We shot it like 15 times."
--:-- Amy Poehler: And then do you guys improvise? Do you do takes?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Freedom takes is what we call them.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Freedom takes. We call them on *Parks and Recreation* fun runs.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, that's awesome. I like that. Sounds more fun.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Freedom takes. Yeah. That's exactly what Marty will say. He'll be like, "OK, OK, but let's do a freedom take." And then we can have fun and do whatever and try things. It's funny when it's so funny. And then it's hilarious when it doesn't land.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, I know. Because they hit it and then no one laughs and you're like, "I have a good idea. I can't wait to bring it out on this freedom take." And then you do it and everyone's like, "Moving on."
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, and it's happened. I equally get it too because they're very sweet to me, but they'll let me know when a joke fails. They're like, "That didn't work." I was like, "Okay." I really appreciate it. They're pros. They will not say it's funny if it's not.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Okay, we should take a lip balm break by the way.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Sure.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I take a lip— do you have your lip?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah, I do.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, what kind of balm do you use?
--:-- Selena Gomez: You don't know which one? Well, I mean, I'm sponsored by Laneige.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I see. Okay.
--:-- Selena Gomez: But I could be sponsored by Rare Beauty. I'm not.
--:-- Amy Poehler: You're hilarious. I want you to do what your contract says.
--:-- Selena Gomez: My contract? As if I have a beauty contract.
--:-- Amy Poehler: You know, Selena, my beauty contracts. What do you mean? It's hard to keep them straight. So I haven't used these because I want you to try this one.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Okay.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, these are great. Okay, the reviews in, they're great. If you just let them in.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Like it a lot.
--:-- Amy Poehler: So let's get to Marty's question.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, good grief.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Marty had a question for you. And it was a sweet one, I think, because he was saying he didn't think he talked to Selena enough about her music. And she's such a sweet— I know, it's such a cute thing to say. And I mean, also let's point out that both Steve and Marty, on top of being comedic geniuses, are also excellent musicians.
--:-- Selena Gomez: It's true.
--:-- Amy Poehler: But his question was very sweet, which is basically— hold on, let me get it right. Okay. So he said, "Who were some of your early musical influences and what was the song that you fell in love with early?"
--:-- Selena Gomez: I know. Well, it was interesting because my dad growing up was a DJ. So I definitely remember listening to a lot of nineties hip hop. But my mom was very creative. So when she would paint, she'd listen to classical music. When other things were happening, she'd kind of go with the energy. And then on my dad's side, it was a lot of Tejano music. So I loved listening to all styles of music.
--:-- Amy Poehler: What is it about Tejano music that makes it specifically that kind of music? How would you describe it to people who don't listen to it?
--:-- Selena Gomez: I think, well, Linda Ronstadt has an incredible album that is in Spanish. And she, to me, since the days of Selena Quintanilla, who kind of made it a pop version of it. Linda's, I thought, was incredible too because it's so musically charged. The instruments make everything sound so grand. And then you feel like you want to move. That's one of the best feelings. And just hearing her— I don't know if you've heard any of that album.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I have. It's so beautiful.
--:-- Selena Gomez: She's definitely a voice of my childhood as well. My mom used to play Linda, my dad. She's just an amazing singer.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And you've recorded in Spanish too.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Did your voice change when you sing in a different language?
--:-- Selena Gomez: It does. It's so weird. I don't know why. I only have one EP in Spanish and a few songs I've recorded in Spanish for various things. And I don't know why.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. It's so interesting. I can imagine because it's like yourself, but you're playing a different version of yourself, a character in a way. And it's so interesting to be singing a different language.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah, it's really difficult. It's really funny to me. I don't really get it, but I like it.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. And you are now living with a musician.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yes. Two musicians.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yes. What's it like in a house with two musicians?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Orange peels everywhere.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Well, there's orange peels to go around.
--:-- Selena Gomez: And I'd say he's obviously— hands down, I hope everyone would agree with me— musically talented in a stratosphere that I couldn't even touch. And it's not because I'm playing down myself. I'm really not. I'm just saying I respect him as an artist, as a producer, as a songwriter. And everything that he does, he puts his whole heart into. I will listen to the same beats over and over and over again.
--:-- Amy Poehler: That's what I imagine— that he's playing a lot of beats.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah, he's creating things. I would like to categorize myself more as an actress, so there isn't any competition, I guess. Not that there would be. The last album I released was with Benny and it was amazing because I was proud of something and it was mine and ours and it was fun. But I think I really depend on him for any of the taste playlists, that kind of stuff.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Congrats on your engagement.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Thank you so much.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And I have to say, the other thing that I've loved watching over the years— again, not knowing you, but just being like, "Oh, cool. Selena's trying this." Your cooking show.
--:-- Selena Gomez: I love a cooking show.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. And I love cooking. And it was, for me, it was a new experience. I didn't really start cooking until I was in my 40s. I didn't really grow up— I had a working mom. We didn't have— there wasn't a ton of— I didn't cook in the home when I was young. And when I had my kids, I was working a lot. I didn't cook as much. And so I'm always drawn to people teaching me how to cook and watching people cook. You are too. What kind of—
--:-- Selena Gomez: So the whole— this is what I love when people say you are a chef because you had a cooking show. No. The idea and the concept of the show is that I simply don't know how. And I think over a few seasons, it's safe to say I still don't know how because it was incredible recipes that were so intricate. And I think that was very challenging for me. But it was fun because I'd get it right, but it would take me five to seven hours to do it. But what I liked about it is, to your point, you're watching somebody learn and you're learning with them. And it's a very nice gesture to be even behind the people watching.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, yeah. That's actually what I do with Benny. Benny feels— I don't know if he'd like admit this— but he likes when I sit in the kitchen with him because he tells me what he's doing. And I think it's the cutest thing in the world because I'll sit there and I'm just like—
--:-- Selena Gomez: "Now what?"
--:-- Amy Poehler: He'll go, "So we're going to make sure these onions are fully chopped and I'm going to caramelize them, whatever." See, I don't even know the lingo. He's like, "I'm going to do this, chop the basil," and then he completely loses himself in cooking. And I love that. I just think it's so endearing.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Well, I think cooking is a good way— speaking of anxiety for me— it's like a place to put anxiety. Because it's very low risk, high reward. If it doesn't work out, whatever, you just order in or just try. But if it does, you feel really good about yourself. You're very proud.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah, for sure. I enjoy cooking. I really do. I just find it very intimidating to do with Benny because he's so good. He's just really good at it. It's almost just too threatening. So one time I made dinner for my friends and he got so offended. He was like, "Why haven't you done that for me?" I'm like, "Because mine was frozen and then I added a sauce." He does everything. You're like, "I'm dealing with the sauce. I can't take it. I can't talk to you right now." But I try.
--:-- Amy Poehler: What's a meal that you like— that you know to cook and you cook?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, my Nana's chicken and dumplings. It's a very Southern dish. It's very good. It's biscuits and these chicken strips, just shredded chicken and a soup. It's the best cozy weather dish.
--:-- Amy Poehler: That sounds good.
--:-- Selena Gomez: It's so fun.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I love also to zoom out— what was great about that show is it's just you enjoying food.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Because I love food.
--:-- Amy Poehler: You talk a lot about making sure that you stay healthy. What is your— how has your relationship with food changed?
--:-- Selena Gomez: It hasn't necessarily changed. It's broadened. And Benny has spoiled me a little bit because he's— again, not to talk about it all the time— but he would take a recipe and turn it into something even better. So it's really funny. I'm just totally airing him out right now. But I think he does this thing where he'll say— I'll say, "Wow, this risotto is incredible." And he'll taste it and he'll say, "Well, you know, I probably would have added this, but it's very good. I just think if you put more—" and then like, "You see how this is set in?" And I just like to stare at him because it's so cute. He's constantly tweaking it.
--:-- Selena Gomez: He always says he can make it better. And it's not a lie. It's just the most adorable thing. He's going to be like, "What?"
--:-- Amy Poehler: It's a very sweet— making food for someone is a really tender act.
--:-- Selena Gomez: It is. It's really a loving act. Very kind act. And I just get sometimes stressed because he doesn't need to do it. But he reminds me, like you said, it's very therapeutic for him.
--:-- Amy Poehler: At least I can speak for me— where you just kind of start thinking about, "What do I want to make tonight?" And your brain, your anxiety brain, your squirrel brain needs to land on something. And then it can land on a list. And it can think about timing. And it has to click clack away on something. And if it's just the meal that night, it can be really helpful.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah. And it's also done. There's something about finishing that thing. It's a feeling of accomplishment.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. And I totally get that. It's the same feeling as me watching TikToks of people cooking.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Those are my favorite.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Me too. I could just— I just appreciate it so much. And then they're so interesting from different cuisines around the world. And it's just really— yeah, that's me. That would be my feed for sure. Do you go on TikTok? Because that must be treacherous.
--:-- Selena Gomez: No. So I actually haven't been on TikTok.
--:-- Amy Poehler: That's great. And I'm sorry, TikTok.
--:-- Selena Gomez: No, it's okay. All the social media platforms, I'm sure hate me at this point because I'm always like, "Uh, I don't know."
--:-- Amy Poehler: It's very— you have 400 million Instagram followers, so it's fine.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Well, no, I'm just saying I get so awkward about that because I don't understand it sometimes. It's just a very interesting thing. Because my experience with social media, I think, is that we may share a similarity, which is that I feel it's treacherous, but it can be— to your point— you can find ways to feel connection.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Definitely.
--:-- Selena Gomez: I think it's important for that element for me to have a connection with my community. I'm not sure I'll always be that way forever, but I think right now it's been a great resource for me to connect with people.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I have not been on social media for a few months now. Even when I post, sometimes it's just to make sure it's on my post and feed and then I don't look at anything.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Well, you've been very generous in sharing your life with people. And I like doing it my way. And I think if I were to get into something— and I also, sorry, I'm all over the place— but I also just want people to know, if it didn't come from me, it's 90% false. I just love being able to say this is where I am and I'm enjoying it and I'm willing to share that part of my life. And maybe it'll change, but I enjoy it.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. And then it leads me kind of to one of our last questions, which is basically energy— giving it, getting it. It sounds like for every person in their thirties, I would say it's one of the big lessons is figuring out— if your twenties is trying to figure out what you don't want to do and who you don't want to be, then your 30s become, "Let's give energy to the things that I want to have grow."
--:-- Selena Gomez: Of course.
--:-- Amy Poehler: So how do you— what have you learned about self-care and boundaries and all this way in which you can be open about your life or you can share the things that you're happy about and you can feel the love and support from people who have been supporting you, but still keep—
--:-- Selena Gomez: I definitely don't read anything. I don't have comments enabled on my page. Just simply because I want it to be fun for me. I don't need anything else other than just me wanting to share that with the world.
--:-- [Sound of a siren passing by]
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, sorry, that's my ride guys.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Wait, this is why Selena's such a pro— she just stopped talking during a siren.
--:-- Amy Poehler: You just don't go looking for trouble. I don't think it's healthy. So I'll say on the social part, if you're depending on it, it's really scary. But have a healthy relationship with it, I think it's important. But yeah, I don't let anything in that I don't need because it's not where I am.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And you kind of spoke about karma earlier. What's amazing about the work that you do is you give a lot back. You give a lot of your time and you give a lot of your money. And in many ways, time can be harder to give than money, and you give both. And you have for a very long time. You toured with UNICEF for many, many years. You were an ambassador. Rare Beauty gives a ton of money. I was really impressed with what you guys—
--:-- Selena Gomez: And that's also the community because 1% of our products. So again, it's people contributing to helping young people have access to mental health.
--:-- Amy Poehler: When you are kind of one-on-one dealing with someone— you've now been famous for a really long time, and you have a lot of people who grew up with you and feel really invested in you. And that's energy, right?
--:-- Amy Poehler: They want to connect with you. You feel that.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I know you've been extremely loving and very supportive of people, but it's a lot to be approached sometimes with a lot of energy. So what do you say no to now that you didn't before? Or how do you guard your own energy?
--:-- Selena Gomez: It's very difficult for me to say no to people that I get to encounter. It's my Nana taking in her 14th picture of my outfit. I'm like, "I can't do this, please stop. I gotta go." I gotta make your dumplings. I have to go make your dumplings. But I don't know how to answer that well.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I mean, maybe it's just become intuitive. And also, may I answer for you?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Well, let me— yeah.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Because I'm thinking— because I feel protective of you. As a woman who is older, I think any woman in their thirties is doing that thing where they're trying to figure out basically what is expensive for me with energy. Basically you start protecting it.
--:-- Selena Gomez: It is. And I think that'll happen more so when I have kids. I'll probably put more boundaries up for the sake of the sanity of what that will look like. I have no idea. But I feel like I owe a lot of people in the world any sort of smile, hug, picture. So it's very hard when I don't do it. I promise you it's because I'm either really having a hard time dealing with my anxiety or I'm late. Which I'm never late. But if I have to go somewhere. In general, it's a lot because I love doing it. I think about it too much where I'll think about if I missed that one person. It could get crazy in my head. It can be a little crazy making.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And Marty said something really sweet, which is that when you guys shoot in New York, shooting in New York— just like living in New York— you're constantly on display and people will take photos. And he said, "Selena really understands that that's kind of part of the exchange and it doesn't really bother her unless anyone is rude to anybody."
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh yeah. You get very mom aware about that. I get very— yeah. I actually, that was probably one of the pictures from season two. Someone said a vile word to someone else. And it was a photographer, thankfully not a fan of the show. But I just looked at him and I gave him the finger. And there's just one shot of me and he missed it. So he wasn't even the one that got it because I looked at him and I was just like—
--:-- Selena Gomez: And the other people started laughing. And I was like, "I don't even care. I'm just so— I can't tolerate that kind of stuff." But then they want that reaction. So then I'm like, "Damn it."
--:-- Amy Poehler: I know they're baiting you, but you're a human being.
--:-- Selena Gomez: I just—
--:-- Amy Poehler: One finger in 33 years.
--:-- Selena Gomez: There's probably been a couple more.
--:-- Amy Poehler: It's probably a couple more. We could probably find them. It's fine. Okay, so I always ask my guests this. What stuff are you listening to right now, watching, reading that makes you laugh? Because you've had a beautiful couple of years and also in the midst of a lot of heaviness in the world. Everybody is in different spaces and places. And you've provided a lot of comedy for people. Your show provides that for a lot of people. Who does that for you?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, well, it's more so the experiences I have. I love encountering silly moments and spontaneity because I don't have a lot of that in my life because I try to schedule everything. So whenever something is spontaneous or even just being on *Only Murders* as long as we work, those are the joyous moments. Making someone laugh or just having your partner laugh with you and you're watching a movie together.
--:-- Amy Poehler: What movies made you laugh lately?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Lately, *Friendship*.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, yeah. Are you a Tim Robinson fan?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yes. I love Tim Robinson so much. Hilarious. And it was so funny because a lot of mixed emotions for people, but I was just like, this is just so funny because how broad it is. Him and Paul Rudd, they're great. And Tim Robinson is in the best kind of insane. I mean, it's like where does he come up?
--:-- Amy Poehler: My kids are obsessed with Tim Robinson.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, that's awesome.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And have you watched his TV show?
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, that's what I need to get on.
--:-- Selena Gomez: You're going to love it.
--:-- Amy Poehler: *I Think You Should Leave*. It's three seasons.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Okay.
--:-- Amy Poehler: It's so funny.
--:-- Selena Gomez: That's what I'll be doing now.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I love it. But I'm also a big— lately we've seen all the horror films.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Okay. You like to be scared?
--:-- Amy Poehler: I loved *Weapons*.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, yeah. That movie.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, thank you. I know. I just don't like to be scared.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I know, but—
--:-- Selena Gomez: I heard it's amazing. About 70% of the people in my life loathe the fact that I watched it.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I saw the thing with the children running, and I was like, "That's a hell no for me. No way am I going to that movie."
--:-- Selena Gomez: Two tickets, please. No way.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I know. No way.
--:-- Selena Gomez: I know. I don't like— it's such a weird thing. But you like being scared a little bit.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I do. I do. But I like things that are interesting mentally. Not a lot of gore.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Yeah. You want an intrigue-y, suspenseful.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah, give me the jump scares every now and then. What's your favorite horror movie? Or one of your favorites?
--:-- Selena Gomez: Oh, of all time. I really loved— I'm trying to think— *Barbarian*.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Oh, yeah. The same director.
--:-- Selena Gomez: The first *Conjuring* was really one that I'll never forget.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Absolutely not. Because I was terrified.
--:-- Selena Gomez: You don't have to. If you don't watch it, then you never have to forget it.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah, that's true. That's true.
--:-- Selena Gomez: So I would say one of those for sure.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. Okay. Well, I think *You Should Leave* is so great. You'll love it. Highly recommend. Watch one horror movie and then watch six episodes. Because that's how we do.
--:-- Selena Gomez: I do have to watch something nice after.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah, to cleanse the palate. But no, I'm so— I have to. And you're not the only person. So I'm like, I need to have a new show to just laugh at. Well, thank you so much for coming. I'm so happy that I got to do this.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure and truly congrats on all the good stuff that's coming your way. And can't wait for what's ahead. I mean, future only, babe.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Yeah. Oh, that's the name of the book. *Future Only, Babe*.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Babe.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Past is the past.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Robots.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Robots.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Lip balm.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Tech. All of it.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Tech. All of it.
--:-- Amy Poehler: That's all. That's also your next chapter. Tech, all of it.
--:-- Selena Gomez: And then just blank pages. And then you just have your grandmother's recipe.
--:-- Amy Poehler: I love it. Thank you so much. It was so great.
--:-- Selena Gomez: Thank you so much, Selena.
--:-- Amy Poehler: Wow. You're just a total peach. And it was really nice talking to you.
--:-- Amy Poehler: And for this polar plunge, I just wanted— in the spirit of what Selena does, right? She just gives back and she really tries to make sure that she's donating her time and energy to people who need it. I just wanted to say that I've been working a lot with Blood Cancer United and they help patients who are dealing with cancer, all different kinds of blood cancers. And September is Childhood Cancer Month. So look, there may be some people listening right now who are dealing with it, who have experience with it. But there's just that moment when you really need support and love, and the people at Blood Cancer United definitely provide that among many other things— resources, information. So I don't know. I just feel very moved by the way Selena uses her platform. And in an attempt to do that today, I would encourage you all to go to bloodcancerunited.org and donate what you can. It makes a big difference, especially in these times. Thank you so much for listening to this episode. Thank you, Selena, for coming. And we'll see you soon.
--:-- Amy Poehler: You've been listening to *Good Hang*. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullin, and Alea Zanaris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.
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